Draper. Posted March 11 Posted March 11 Just now, Kristie Kuwa said: Bigger question: did the jay-z/beyonce party didnt happen yesterday or what exactly is going? Did they suddenly manage to be so private that no one reported? What in the illuminati is going on? It did happen, but it’s always private. We only get some paparazzi shots.
sillycilla Posted March 11 Posted March 11 23 minutes ago, Kristie Kuwa said: Bigger question: did the jay-z/beyonce party didnt happen yesterday or what exactly is going? Did they suddenly manage to be so private that no one reported? What in the illuminati is going on? I've been trying to hold it down in the base, but I can tell my solid facade is crumbling as we speak Ariana smashing, Billie returning, Taylor potentially releasing a lead, Kanye with Vultures 2, and Bey radio silent. I cant do it guys For some reason they seem to believe the announcement of an era is all that’s needed. I know you are trying to be positive but the minute I saw there was no follow up, I knew it was about to be Renaissance redux. 1
luxurious Posted March 11 Posted March 11 just saw this on twitter would you guys say Europe is kinda Beyoncé’s strongest market? Like ofc she sells more in the US but only because there’s way more people 1 1
luxurious Posted March 11 Posted March 11 I can only really speak for the UK since I was born here and have lived here my whole life. We live for her here 3
Shelter Posted March 11 Posted March 11 4 minutes ago, luxurious said: just saw this on twitter would you guys say Europe is kinda Beyoncé’s strongest market? Like ofc she sells more in the US but only because there’s way more people Yes. They appreciate her more. 2
QueenB Posted March 11 Posted March 11 3 minutes ago, sillycilla said: For some reason they seem to believe the announcement of an era is all that’s needed. I know you are trying to be positive but the minute I saw there was no follow up, I knew it was about to be Renaissance redux. Not sure if this is me being delusional, but I feel like if parkwood were good at their jobs we would be having 1 million+ first week sales for every album after self-titled 1 1
Cbreezy Posted March 11 Posted March 11 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Kristie Kuwa said: Bigger question: did the jay-z/beyonce party didnt happen yesterday or what exactly is going? Did they suddenly manage to be so private that no one reported? What in the illuminati is going on? I've been trying to hold it down in the base, but I can tell my solid facade is crumbling as we speak Ariana smashing, Billie returning, Taylor potentially releasing a lead, Kanye with Vultures 2, and Bey radio silent. I cant do it guys It did happen! Have seen a few of the trademark black and white guest snaps floating around. Unlike the Roc Nation Brunch, which seems very deliberately frontwards facing, the Gold Party is presented as hella elite and there generally aren't any pics (not sure phones are even allowed) until they release them. If ever they do. As for the other things... Spoiler ....come over to the light lol. The girls have dragging anyone who isn't super positive about the era so far despite the nothingness since the Super Bowl ad. Dragging the folk with very rational concerns about Bey "seemingly" not doing what's needed to position her own product to succeed. There's a chance there's some grand plan (at which point I'll joyfully eat humble pie), but working with the data and actions of now, it definitely is easy to feel a bit blah about everything. Edited March 11 by Cbreezy 1
ShouldersSideways Posted March 11 Posted March 11 11 minutes ago, sillycilla said: For some reason they seem to believe the announcement of an era is all that’s needed. I know you are trying to be positive but the minute I saw there was no follow up, I knew it was about to be Renaissance redux. Renaissance redux? It's been this way for over 10 years now.
sillycilla Posted March 11 Posted March 11 8 minutes ago, QueenB said: Not sure if this is me being delusional, but I feel like if parkwood were good at their jobs we would be having 1 million+ first week sales for every album after self-titled I don’t know about one mill but definitely more 6m plus albums and #1’s and bigger streaming numbers. 2 minutes ago, ShouldersSideways said: Renaissance redux? It's been this way for over 10 years now. I specifically point to Renaissance because lyin ass Yvette mentioned this would be a traditional rollout. Making many of us believe more would go into promoting the era.
satellites.™ Posted March 11 Posted March 11 8 minutes ago, QueenB said: Not sure if this is me being delusional, but I feel like if parkwood were good at their jobs we would be having 1 million+ first week sales for every album after self-titled Parkwood is fine, the label is even better, it is now very clear that Ms. No is her own self sabotage. The label took THE and did their BEST job with it for two/three weeks, everything we could want: - immediate radio - playlisting - visibility in marketing - Tik Tok sound with videos attached immediately On her end... - no social media post - no music video - no live performance - no Apple or Spotify special thing - NO MENTION OF THE SONG AT ALL < ---------- There are things the label cannot do without her input or approval. 2
Brikenbur Posted March 11 Posted March 11 (edited) I’m starting to strongly think that we’re getting some sort of visual for “act ii.” If this was a regular degular release like RENAISSANCE was with no additional visuals around the time of release, we would’ve gotten the album cover/tracklist by now. It doesn’t make sense for her NOT to release those two things IF something bigger wasn’t coming. I don’t think Camp Bey just plans on randomly releasing the album cover and tracklist at this point (~2 weeks) prior to the “album”(?) release if act ii is just an album. So, I actually think WE ALL should calm down as it relates to first week figures because I think what will be announced will be BIGGER than just an album cover/tracklist confirming/announcing the project. Like that silly little ATBLInsider account said, “you don’t need pre orders if a film is being released hours prior” ….. which I still don’t believe 100% but do believe it’ll be a big deal come 3.29 Edited March 11 by Brikenbur 2 1 1
BnPac Posted March 11 Posted March 11 29 minutes ago, luxurious said: just saw this on twitter would you guys say Europe is kinda Beyoncé’s strongest market? Like ofc she sells more in the US but only because there’s way more people In some European countries I think so : Ireland, NL and UK. And that's despite her pretty much being only focused on the US for the last 15 years outside of a tour. The older an act gets, the harder it is in the US but success and age don't strongly correlate here so I don't understand why people like Bey, Janet (worst offender of this) do not prioritize outside the US to stay highly relevant even "old ages" like Tina and Madonna have done. 1
futuresuperstar2023 Posted March 11 Posted March 11 2 hours ago, Brikenbur said: I’m starting to strongly think that we’re getting some sort of visual for “act ii.” If this was a regular degular release like RENAISSANCE was with no additional visuals around the time of release, we would’ve gotten the album cover/tracklist by now. It doesn’t make sense for her NOT to release those two things IF something bigger wasn’t coming. I don’t think Camp Bey just plans on randomly releasing the album cover and tracklist at this point (~2 weeks) prior to the “album”(?) release if act ii is just an album. So, I actually think WE ALL should calm down as it relates to first week figures because I think what will be announced will be BIGGER than just an album cover/tracklist confirming/announcing the project. Like that silly little ATBLInsider account said, “you don’t need pre orders if a film is being released hours prior” ….. which I still don’t believe 100% but do believe it’ll be a big deal come 3.29 I think so as well. Bey and her team are too quiet. Something Big is happening 1
Kristie Kuwa Posted March 11 Posted March 11 (edited) Hmm I just feel like the approach of having others aka your mom talk more about your business ventures than you (both for THE/Act ii as well as Cecred) is kinda whack. This is not elementary school where u need ur mom talking for you. You want to sell?? Then sell it Being lowkey is fine and works towards her "luxury" brand, but at one point, you gotta make the people gag and excited for u. And in this day and age, you have to do it rather consistently Edited March 11 by Kristie Kuwa 2 1
yonsé Posted March 11 Posted March 11 (edited) 1 hour ago, Kristie Kuwa said: Bigger question: did the jay-z/beyonce party didnt happen yesterday or what exactly is going? Did they suddenly manage to be so private that no one reported? What in the illuminati is going on? the gold party is like this every year. there are no phones or photography inside the party. thats why celebs like it so much. photobooth pictures will trickle out, but we didn't even see her look last year until she posted it. Edited March 11 by yonsé 1
QueenB Posted March 11 Posted March 11 Why do I feel like there will come a day when the album release date comes, and no album is posted and it's just radio silence 2
Negiiiii Posted March 11 Posted March 11 What is Jolene for an American? I’m French and that song doesnt even exist to me. Is it a classic to US culture?
Kristie Kuwa Posted March 11 Posted March 11 12 minutes ago, Burn said: Jolene is gonna be her IWALY moment. Well for that to happen she would have to treat it like Whitney treated IWALY, and oh well, how shall I put it... 1
Jon Snow Posted March 11 Posted March 11 i should've counted how many people here were claiming that this rollout would be different than the last one and that she's coming with the full strength. y'all set yourselves up again 3 1 3
trainsskyscrapers Posted March 11 Posted March 11 28 minutes ago, Kristie Kuwa said: Hmm I just feel like the approach of having others aka your mom talk more about your business ventures than you (both for THE/Act ii as well as Cecred) is kinda whack. This is not elementary school where u need ur mom talking for you. You want to sell?? Then sell it Being lowkey is fine and works towards her "luxury" brand, but at one point, you gotta make the people gag and excited for u. And in this day and age, you have to do it rather consistently Her mom has the cosmetology certifications. It is no mistake that her Mom, that hair/scalp Doctor who is the head of Cecred Education, and her hairstylist Neal Farinah are the three faces we see most prominently in the initial branding and market positioning of the product. They want this product to take up shelf space in salons (and have longevity) which requires credibility. A track record of having good hair will not take the product as far as making sure to play up the scientific/chemistry elements of the product. 2
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