carameldelight Posted December 4, 2023 Posted December 4, 2023 (edited) What new info did we learn in the film? She gave us a little insight into her knee but it was touched on for 3 minutes. My favorite part of the whole film was when she highlighted the ballroom scene and gave the dancers their shine, would have loved to see more on that and how the album came to fruition. Don't get me wrong, the film was very well put together and I enjoyed it. However it doesn't justify the nearly $30 price tag for the recycled talking points we've heard for years. Edited December 4, 2023 by carameldelight 1 7
ScorpiosGroove Posted December 4, 2023 Posted December 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, carameldelight said: What new info did we learn in the film? She gave us a little insight into her knee but it was touched on for 3 minutes. My favorite part of the whole film was when she highlighted the ballroom scene and gave the dancers their shine, would have loved to see more on that and how the album came to fruition. Don't get me wrong, the film was very well put together and I enjoyed it. However it doesn't justify the nearly $30 price tag for the recycled talking points we've heard for years. oh he’s gonna call you a dumb fake fan in 3, 2, 1 1
Draper. Posted December 4, 2023 Posted December 4, 2023 13 minutes ago, ScorpiosGroove said: didn’t she say that like 3 years after the FWT ended ? i’m NOT waiting till 2026 for her to let me know that year old music videos are scrapped The FWT was being worked during 2017, and she probably was going to release it… But then she did Coachella and we don’t know what went on. Maybe she offered FWT to Netflix and they asked for Homecoming cause they felt it was better. Maybe Bey herself got tired of working on FWT because she got caught on working on Coachella/OTRII and felt more excited about that. Maybe she couldn’t execute a visual representation of the tour that felt as impressive as Lemonade and its visual album. It sucks for us, but it kinda makes sense from her pov. I don’t think we’re far away from a new interview and she won’t get to tease any new music (as she usually does) without somebody asking for those visuals.
Bey'Knight Posted December 4, 2023 Posted December 4, 2023 https://youtu.be/y40gcnAiL5E?si=mwmNrlSTj5OuzflA Interview with Amari on Sherri. She has such an endearing presence. 3
sillycilla Posted December 4, 2023 Posted December 4, 2023 Chiiiile… Am I the only one that doesn’t buy the “no longer worried about perfection” narrative? If that was the case the visuals would not have been shelved. 6 1
kimberly Posted December 4, 2023 Posted December 4, 2023 11 minutes ago, carameldelight said: What new info did we learn in the film? She gave us a little insight into her knee but it was touched on for 3 minutes. My favorite part of the whole film was when she highlighted the ballroom scene and gave the dancers their shine, would have loved to see more on that and how the album came to fruition. Don't get me wrong, the film was very well put together and I enjoyed it. However it doesn't justify the nearly $30 price tag for the recycled talking points we've heard for years. - we got a look into the production process, stage setup, production crew - she explained why the crew were so visible on stage (which some in the base were confused about) - we saw how and when they got Kevin Prodigy to do the commentary throughout the show - we learned that she almost left Diva off the setlist - we got her talking about her vocal hemorrhage - we got a glimpse into the DC5 reunion - we learned about Uncle Johnny + the last dress he made for her - we saw her come up with the Cuff It acapella intro - rehearsal footage for River Deep, 1+1, Thique, Break My Soul... - we learned that she lived out of Cannes for the European leg of the tour (plus more stuff about her kids) there was quite a bit in there. you're not paying $30 for the new information, it's categorically a concert film. it was evident that documentary would add up to 30 minutes or so. and I'm not saying she wasn't bullshitting at all -- "I love lights, I've always loved lights," "I think about our relation to time" and that one scene where she kept moving her head in a circle for what felt like 5 minutes were of course there to fluff it up. but the less-scripted parts of it were the first sit-down Bey interview we got to see since... Lion King era I think? 2
PrettyHurts Posted December 4, 2023 Posted December 4, 2023 2 hours ago, Mitsouko said: Well yes. Which reputable house is going have their seamstresses spend hundreds of hours hand-embroidering a one of a kind costume for it never to be seen? What editor(s) will spend months editing frame by frame a film that may very well go unreleased? It's not just about them getting paid at the end of the day. Beyonce knows her own value; so do other people know theirs. This stuff has a ripple effect, a domino effect. Stuff like this comes back around. People have fumbled this way before. Beyonce will always be richer than God and will always have a huge fanbase but if within the industry she's seen as flighty, impulsive, and unreliable, it'll be bad for her. She's never going to "lose it all" but much of the establishment is already ambivalent about her to say the least; hopefully she's being careful about how she spends other people's time and ability. it would not be the first video or film to be scrapped in history. whether they come out or not is her decision ultimately. i'm sure anyone who worked on them understands this before hand. sometimes projects are not released. it doesn't mean her reputation will go down the drain. y'all need to just accept that parkwood and the rest of the world have moved on from the visuals 1
kimberly Posted December 4, 2023 Posted December 4, 2023 19 minutes ago, sillycilla said: Chiiiile… Am I the only one that doesn’t buy the “no longer worried about perfection” narrative? If that was the case the visuals would not have been shelved. now, let's not state that visuals have been shelved as if it were a fact. but you are right, of course she's not giving up perfection. she's embracing flaws more and seems more free from her own judgment. she's much less uptight this tour, it's evident. at the same time, her saying "she doesn't give a **** anymore" is paradoxical. an exaggerated claim for sure.
YR. Posted December 4, 2023 Posted December 4, 2023 34 minutes ago, carameldelight said: What new info did we learn in the film? She gave us a little insight into her knee but it was touched on for 3 minutes. My favorite part of the whole film was when she highlighted the ballroom scene and gave the dancers their shine, would have loved to see more on that and how the album came to fruition. Don't get me wrong, the film was very well put together and I enjoyed it. However it doesn't justify the nearly $30 price tag for the recycled talking points we've heard for years. You're not a fan. What a whining loser 2 1 2
Kingdom Posted December 4, 2023 Posted December 4, 2023 5 minutes ago, kimberly said: - we got a look into the production process, stage setup, production crew - she explained why the crew were so visible on stage (which some in the base were confused about) - we saw how and when they got Kevin Prodigy to do the commentary throughout the show - we learned that she almost left Diva off the setlist - we got her talking about her vocal hemorrhage - we got a glimpse into the DC5 reunion - we learned about Uncle Johnny + the last dress he made for her - we saw her come up with the Cuff It acapella intro - rehearsal footage for River Deep, 1+1, Thique, Break My Soul... - we learned that she lived out of Cannes for the European leg of the tour (plus more stuff about her kids) there was quite a bit in there. you're not paying $30 for the new information, it's categorically a concert film. it was evident that documentary would add up to 30 minutes or so. and I'm not saying she wasn't bullshitting at all -- "I love lights, I've always loved lights," "I think about our relation to time" and that one scene where she kept moving her head in a circle for what felt like 5 minutes were of course there to fluff it up. but the less-scripted parts of it were the first sit-down Bey interview we got to see since... Lion King era I think? Well said. I will also say...rather than getting actual information like you want to me TMZ, the way she talked about certain things was NEW. I go back to the scene where she is literally baring her soul on the messed up nature of the industry. Bey as never spoken like that before. Her vulnerability is not tied or determined by explicit info she gives you...its the way she spoke about certain things that really surprised me. 3
YR. Posted December 4, 2023 Posted December 4, 2023 Y'all ain't getting those visuals it's canceled. Now go get a life 3 1 1
Kingdom Posted December 4, 2023 Posted December 4, 2023 Just now, YR. said: You're not a fan. What a whining loser Thank you. Extremely annoying
family.guy123 Posted December 4, 2023 Posted December 4, 2023 What actual evidence do we have that visuals ever existed in the first place? Note: a video titled “cliquebait”, to me, is evidence of the opposite. When a fish bites the bait, they aren’t rewarded afterwards with more food. They’re killed. 1
PrettyHurts Posted December 4, 2023 Posted December 4, 2023 (edited) When Bey says she's "not worried about perfection" what she means to say is she's not worried about doing things that are not creatively fulfiling for her or worth spending precious time on. For a while, this was promo. Bey took her power back in the 2010s by no longer focusing on promo because it overwhelmed her and distracted from the creative process. So she focused on a new outlet, which was visuals. Now, I think visuals might be something that is no longer creatively fulfilling. This is partly due to the expectation that she will deliver them and they will be perfect. She wants to free herself from this pressure. For Bey it is very important to remove the expectation and pressures put upon her (by us and herself). As she said in the film, what she does also requires mental strength. She has to be balance the pressure of being Beyoncé all while keeping her artistic integrity in tact. This is a delicate balance that requires her to withhold certain things at certain times (promo, visuals, interviews, etc). Edited December 4, 2023 by PrettyHurts 5
YR. Posted December 4, 2023 Posted December 4, 2023 Like YOU'RE NOT GETTING IT. No matter how much you hate her while pretending to be a fan She released an incredible film and you're dragging her for not giving you another one. You literally can't be over 15 years old, I refuse to believe adults are having these debates 2 1 2
YR. Posted December 4, 2023 Posted December 4, 2023 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Kingdom said: If you watched that film and think beyonce told us the same thing she has always said..you are DUMB. And it shows you did not actually listen to what she is saying. This is the most raw and vulnerable she has ever been. Not everything has to be explicitly stated, the scene where she is crying about how messed up the industry is and how she's been through some shi* was so open that i am shocked she actually left that in there. It was excellent and artful. Its called the RENAISSANCE FILM not a documentary about her entire life. THEY ARE NOT FANS. They live through a parasocial relationship with B and other artists. They don't see her as human so it's impossible to have a discussion with these types. Edited December 4, 2023 by YR. 1 1
Kassi Posted December 4, 2023 Posted December 4, 2023 7 minutes ago, YR. said: Y'all ain't getting those visuals it's canceled. Now go get a life She literally told us that WE are the visuals. As in, we are the physical expression of the album — the visuals come to life, if you will. Ergo, the digital visuals are redundant. The delusion around “when they’re coming” is giving ”he loves me, but he’s not ready for a relationship” teas. Sometimes you just have to believe what’s in front of your face. 1 2 1
kimberly Posted December 4, 2023 Posted December 4, 2023 8 minutes ago, PrettyHurts said: it would not be the first video or film to be scrapped in history. whether they come out or not is her decision ultimately. i'm sure anyone who worked on them understands this before hand. sometimes projects are not released. it doesn't mean her reputation will go down the drain. y'all need to just accept that parkwood and the rest of the world have moved on from the visuals right. her reputation won't go down the drain, but she won't be able to book the same people again. if she's working with the best of the best, would she want to give that up? not to mention the peer-voted awards she loves so much... she can kiss them goodbye if she's letting down hundreds of people, who will complain about it to their thousands of industry friends... has Parkwood moved on? can someone please point me to any evidence that visuals aren't being held up because they might include a whole another album? maybe she'll release them in theaters after Act II comes out. is there any solid reason this could not be a possibility besides "y'all need to accept that"? 2 1 3
AxelFox Posted December 4, 2023 Posted December 4, 2023 7 minutes ago, family.guy123 said: What actual evidence do we have that visuals ever existed in the first place? Note: a video titled “cliquebait”, to me, is evidence of the opposite. When a fish bites the bait, they aren’t rewarded afterwards with more food. They’re killed. An extremely reliable movie insider that usually has info on movie stuff but no relation the music industry spilled the tea this summer that Beyoncé has an entire movie project directed by Nadia Cohen that was completed by the end of 2022 and they've been shopping it to streaming platforms for the entirety of 2023 at that point but the project was in limbo. He and his source speculate on what could be the reason that it is in limbo but it was just that, speculation. The fact is that the film exists and she was looking out to release it at some point. I don't see any reason why he would be lying about this stuff. 1
PrettyHurts Posted December 4, 2023 Posted December 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, kimberly said: right. her reputation won't go down the drain, but she won't be able to book the same people again. if she's working with the best of the best, would she want to give that up? not to mention the peer-voted awards she loves so much... she can kiss them goodbye if she's letting down hundreds of people, who will complain about it to their thousands of industry friends... has Parkwood moved on? can someone please point me to any evidence that visuals aren't being held up because they might include a whole another album? maybe she'll release them in theaters after Act II comes out. is there any solid reason this could not be a possibility besides "y'all need to accept that"? this could also be the case. the point is stop complaining as if she sits on her ass and does nothing, or as if she's not intelligent or capable of making strategic decisions. bey knows we want the visuals. there's nothing we can do to force her to tell us why they're not out. just enjoy the film and move on with your life. it's been 1.5 years anyway 4 1 2
ScorpiosGroove Posted December 4, 2023 Posted December 4, 2023 "now go get a life” said the atrl account 4
Shone Ai Posted December 4, 2023 Posted December 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Mitsouko said: I mean look at what happened when Warner Bros. announced that they were shelving a film - a film that was fully completed and ready for release - for a tax writeoff. A tsunami of backlash from within the industry as well as from the knowing public, which actually forced Warners to start shopping the film to other studios. Why? Because it made people mad. It made artists and technicians mad. People who didn't even work on the film were enraged not only for their peers but because it sets a shitty precedent for an industry already on dangerous ground. Yes, everyone got paid. That is not the point. Beyonce ZASLAV don't be like that. You better have a plan for these music videos. David Zaslav needed to get whacked for shelving Batgirl last year omg. 1 hour ago, ScorpiosGroove said: exactly this !! like it was all nice to see but i expected a more in depth look into how she came up with the tour’s concept, how she recorded the album, her filming the interludes etc not her saying she loves Houston, Diana & Tina for the millionth time I wanted to see the femmebots design sketches 2
Chris Posted December 4, 2023 Posted December 4, 2023 18 minutes ago, family.guy123 said: What actual evidence do we have that visuals ever existed in the first place? Seriously?
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