fan base Beyoncé

[ScorpiosGroove]

53 minutes ago, PrettyHurts said:

why can;t y;all accept that maybe plans changed or she didn't like the outcome  things happen

simply bc you can’t officially announce something, do a written press release, release trailers and tease them multiple times over a year and then scrap it. that’s not something that just "happens" and is inexcusable in every  way, shape or form.  

 

the “just accept things changed” angle can not work for me or anyone else here simply bc how would you feel if she announced Ren with a snippet, and then just never released, acknowledged or mentioned it ever again ? you wouldn’t, just accept it. that would be pure insanity. this is the exact same thing 

 

Bey isn’t some independent, clumsy newcomer and stuff like this CAN NOT happen, certainly not at her caliber and i know i may be a little dramatic but she honestly deserves to be sued for this & if she truly scrapped the visuals i hope it’ll haunt her till the end of time 

[Lose My Breath]

1 minute ago, PrettyHurts said:

why do yall need answers to EVERYTHING like she's our employee  i'm very "bey needs to be held accountable for poor management!" hive, but I don't understand these feelings after seeing the film and how much effort went into the tour as well as making the film....why should she have to explain what happened w visuals after sharing so much?

 

the film is a huge present to fans after not giving a tour film for so long and depriving us of visuals. i'm very happy with it

Because they said they were coming, multiple times, for 1.5 years.  We didn't make them up, there was even a press release, a trailer, it's addressed IN THE TOUR

[PrettyHurts]

Just now, ScorpiosGroove said:

simply bc you can’t officially announce something, do a written press release, release trailers and tease them multiple times over a year and then scrap it

you can she did  plans can change. projects can be scrapped. life goes on. beyonce went through A LOT mentally and physically to put the tour together. just appreciate her process and her effort. her goals have changed and she is proud of what she accomplished with this era.

[PrettyHurts]

1 minute ago, Lose My Breath said:

Because they said they were coming, multiple times, for 1.5 years.  We didn't make them up, there was even a press release, a trailer, it's addressed IN THE TOUR

and she changed her mind. what are we going to do about it? 

[giRLbye.]

i hope beyonce just puts them on youtube & just be done. the whiners obsessed with these music videos are exhausting.

[AxelFox]

3 minutes ago, PrettyHurts said:

why do yall need answers to EVERYTHING like she's our employee  i'm very "bey needs to be held accountable for poor management!" hive, but I don't understand these feelings after seeing the film and how much effort went into the tour as well as making the film....why should she have to explain what happened w visuals after sharing so much?

 

the film is a huge present to fans after not giving a tour film for so long and depriving us of visuals. i'm very happy with it

They're not mutually exclusive. We can be very happy with the tour movie (as I presume most of us are) and still want to see at least some music videos for the songs. 

 

It's not like we demand her go make an entire visual album because we ask so, but simply release something that we know she has already done and that she announced would be coming out.

[ScorpiosGroove]

Just now, PrettyHurts said:

you can she did  plans can change. projects can be scrapped. 

doesn’t mean we’ll accept it. and you can be sure that people will ask for the visuals for the rest of Bey’s career, as they should. y’all thought asking for the FWT dvd was annoying ? this will be the same x10 

[ScorpiosGroove]

i hope beyonce just puts them on netflix & just be done. the whiners obsessed with hating on these music videos are exhausting.

[giRLbye.]

watching "Homecoming" today & then Mrs Carter Show... RWT's younger sister & my other favorite tour. 

 

 

 

 

[Shone Ai]

2 hours ago, ScorpiosGroove said:

so after attending the paris premiere, one thing about french hive we WILL show up & show out for mother, that’s why we’re the only ones she reposted in her story, not everybody has that 

 

anyway, i’ve never seen so many people in a theater, the queue alone was so long and so many hot, well dressed people in there whew. i kinda hated everyone standing up every time a new song came on, like this isn’t a pilates course but it did add a lot energy wise so i didn’t mind it much after all. it was really amazing (the sound could’ve been louder tho cause there were times where i heard the audience more than Bey nnn) 

 

she really picked out the best moment, every little detail was carefully chosen and it was masterfully done fr. i expected way too many cuts, transitions and filters but it was just done so well, she really stepped it up bad. her best concert, tour and film all in one, hands down. like I’m sorry Homecoming but you’re kinda dogshit compared to this 

 

the energy when everyone danced and sang during the ITG/Cozy/AS section was just off the charts like WOW. everyone cheered for Blue & Rumi and all the funny things they/Bey said or did. When Jay came on everybody boo’d him, twice (as they should). when Yvette came on there were light boo’s coupled with confused silence, people really do NOT know that woman 

 

 

now on to some nitpicking : i couldn’t focus on the mixing/production bc the girls were LOUD but i’m sure they put the horns all the way in the back during the second cozy chorus, aka you barely hear them which is kinda electric chair worthy cause it’s literally THE best thing about cozy’s live arrangement ??

same for the horns at the end of BMS, you barely hear them… I hope that won’t be the case in the live album cause if there’s one thing Bey really knows how to do it’s including horns in her live recordings. like that’s really her thing and her thing only. 
I also kinda hated how they changed AHAP’s structure to include Kendrick, it doesn’t work for me but whatever, i’m glad they included his verse nonetheless. at least she kept the CIL F5 thank god.

 

now i really don’t wanna complain cause we see and hear so little of her bts these days that it’s a blessing to see stuff like her recording Heated’s outro while lying on a coach (kiii), the scrapped stage concepts (so many thoughts on those alone like omg), her eating fastfood like a normal human etc, like all of it was amazing to see 

 

BUT, in the context of the movie/era/tour, i feel like a lot of the documentary footage was kinda useless or at least a bit redundant (as a stan at least, i guess for casual fans it was more than enough). like @Shone Ai mentioned, were was the explanation for the concept ? why the futuristic robot aesthetic ? why was the setlist the way it was ? why was there no footage of her and Des explaining the final stage ? why did they work 4 years on this and how did it all come together ? i expected more in depth explanations about that part, not her thanking a bunch of people we all know inspired and opened the doors for her, but oh well. 

 

all in all the film’s a masterpiece, easily her best ever and i’m more than happy we finally got a tour film and a (hopefully) future live album 

While the doc part was put together very well, it wasn’t really that interesting cuz it was bunch of stuff I knew as a fan, you know?

[Mitsouko]

The only reason I think the visuals must be coming at some point is because she and everyone around her must know that it would be terrible for her career and status to set this precedent. She has the greatest creative team in industry history. They've got to know that never releasing another frame of the visuals will turn important potential collaborators off for good.

[PrettyHurts]

1 minute ago, Mitsouko said:

The only reason I think the visuals must be coming at some point is because she and everyone around her must know that it would be terrible for her career status to set this precedent.

no visuals for ren will be terrible for her career status? you guys are really serving delulu stans. the album, tour, and film were all successful without them. her career will remain unchanged if she never speaks about them again 

[Kristie Kuwa]

8 minutes ago, PrettyHurts said:

no visuals for ren will be terrible for her career status? you guys are really serving delulu stans. the album, tour, and film were all successful without them. her career will remain unchanged if she never speaks about them again 

I think people are referring more to the the fact that the collaborators on the project would feel gutted and that would impact future projects cause word of mouth would be "you can't count on Beyonce doing anything with ur hard-worked product cause she might just one day think they are not cute enough"

[Mitsouko]

12 hours ago, PrettyHurts said:

no visuals for ren will be terrible for her career status? you guys are really serving delulu stans. the album, tour, and film were all successful without them. her career will remain unchanged if she never speaks about them again 

Well yes. What reputable house is going have their seamstresses spend hundreds of hours hand-embroidering a one of a kind costume for it never to be seen? What editor(s) will spend months editing frame by frame a film that may very well go unreleased? It's not just about them getting paid at the end of the day. Beyonce knows her own value; so do other people know theirs. This stuff has a ripple effect, a domino effect. Stuff like this comes back around. People have fumbled this way before. Beyonce will always be richer than God and will always have a huge fanbase but if within the industry she's seen as flighty, impulsive, and unreliable, it'll be bad for her. She's never going to "lose it all" but much of the establishment is already ambivalent about her to say the least; hopefully she's being careful about how she spends other people's time and ability.

[yonsé]

5 hours ago, AxelFox said:

I mean.. 'you are the visuals baby' being in the movie and on t-shirts is pretty telling.

 

Disrespectful and in poor taste, but pretty telling. 

 

Also when she told us to watch the formation tour in our heads. Same exact verbiage. Same rude ass t shirts

[yonsé]

1 hour ago, swissman said:

Was it just me or did those post-its on the dressing room mirror say something like NEW IDEA I'M NOT MAKING A MOVIE MY IDEAS WILL LIVE IN ME (or something like that)?

 

Wasn't that a reference to no visuals? For now at least?

I posted it on the last page

[giRLbye.]

17 minutes ago, Kristie Kuwa said:

I think people are referring more to the the fact that the collaborators on the project would feel gutted and that would impact future projects cause word of mouth would be "you can't count on Beyonce doing anything with ur hard-worked product cause she might just one day think they are not cute enough"

 

these people are part of the business....many people work on projects that don't get greenlit all the time. as long as they got their check for their services...they are fine. this is the nature of the actual business....not fake industry stan execs.

[yonsé]

1 hour ago, PrettyHurts said:

how could you watch the tour film and think she's creatively bankrupt? maybe the vision just didn't come out right, and instead of spending more time/money trying to make it perfect, she chose to focus on the tour instead. bey has already done 3 (4 including bday) visual albums. from a creative and strategic standpoint, its actually healthy to move on from that format. bey has said before she doesn't like to repeat herself too many times. the impact and success of her visual projects is evident due to how many people have copied them. she achieved what she wanted to in that area

I would agree with this take if she didn’t scrap music videos altogether. We don’t even get a break my soul vid?
 

Like EIL was probably going to be a visual album as well, based on how much they filmed with Melina, and only a little bit of that became the tour backdrops for OTR II, just like this scenario. But she at LEAST gave us a music video. Why tease a whole visual and not give us at least a taste? It’s lowkey cruel 

[Draper.]

Maybe they were always supposed to come after the acts.  Like a three part series on Netflix (kind of like what they did with the Squid Game reality show, that had three different dates to dose the content), and then a documentary for all three of them since they were recorded together. 

[tachiwaka]

She better put this film on demand soon because I’m sitting here with a 17-day old baby and won’t be in a theater for a while  loving reading all of the reviews so far! 

[jadeabove]

26 minutes ago, Kristie Kuwa said:

I think people are referring more to the the fact that the collaborators on the project would feel gutted and that would impact future projects cause word of mouth would be "you can't count on Beyonce doing anything with ur hard-worked product cause she might just one day think they are not cute enough"

But that happens all the time in the industry… in fact, it’s pretty common that things get scrapped. Does it suck? Absolutely. Doesn’t stop projects from being cancelled or not see the light of the day.

[Kristie Kuwa]

11 minutes ago, giRLbye. said:

 

these people are part of the business....many people work on projects that don't get greenlit all the time. as long as they got their check for their services...they are fine. this is the nature of the actual business....not fake industry stan execs.

Wrong cause you can bet Bey makes them sign a contact that basically gives all zhe right of the intellectual and creative properly to Bey, which means the ideas and concepts they use for that project basically go to waste when not used

 

And trust and believe: If you get the call that Bey wants you to work for her, you give your best work and self to her

Edited December 4, 2023 by Kristie Kuwa

[swissman]

9 minutes ago, yonsé said:

I would agree with this take if she didn’t scrap music videos altogether. We don’t even get a break my soul vid?
 

Like EIL was probably going to be a visual album as well, based on how much they filmed with Melina, and only a little bit of that became the tour backdrops for OTR II, just like this scenario. But she at LEAST gave us a music video. Why tease a whole visual and not give us at least a taste? It’s lowkey cruel 

I'd kind of prefer none than just one.

 

One, imo, seems far messier than none. At least none is a statement in itself. One is plodding and would feel like she can't make up her mind....release them or not.

[tachiwaka]

3 minutes ago, Draper. said:

Maybe they were always supposed to come after the acts.  Like a three part series on Netflix (kind of like what they did with the Squid Game reality show, that had three different dates to dose the content), and then a documentary for all three of them since they were recorded together. 

This is exactly what I think is happening. I don’t think they are scrapped at all, moreso this is all part of her weird plan. 

[Lose My Breath]

25 minutes ago, yonsé said:

Also when she told us to watch the formation tour in our heads. Same exact verbiage. Same rude ass t shirts

yeah, but at least she didn't tell us it was coming