fan base Beyoncé

[Kristie Kuwa]

50 minutes ago, Draper. said:

Dua and Billie are not even 10 years in their careers, Taylor is riding the wave of her peak. But what is Gaga doing over Bey? What is Ariana doing over Bey? What is Rihanna doing over Bey? Just like Bey they are doing the bare minimum and working on their brands (Fenty Beauty, Savage x Fenty, Haus Labs, REM Beauty) because that gives them more money than music. There’s no money to be made in music outside of touring, and we’re lucky she’s one of the greatest touring artists and that makes her a lot of money because otherwise she would cut that too.

 

I’m sorry to say but the industry has changed. Dua herself has already said that she promoted a lot for her first era and that she did not intend in doing that again (something Bey only said after 4). Miley and Adele said they don’t like touring. Doja kind of hates her fans. And none of those has worked half as hard as Bey did.

 

The only one caring about fan experience is Taylor and it’s because she just likes that kind of attention, Bey has never liked that. 

Absolutely rational take. I honestly just expect her team to do better and her to put more effort into making the era experience more fun for us. She, for all I care, doesnt even need to leave her airport-looking mansion.

But what do we get? "You are the visuals, baby" and Parkwood ridiculing our excitement. Its just reads in very, very poor taste seeing how we are the ones who gave her all the privilege

 

Giving us the gayest album shes ever done and treating it like that? No mam

Edited November 15, 2023 by Kristie Kuwa

[cloudbusting]

the way this song makes me want a man and not just in a sexual way

 

actually a good chunk of 4 makes me feel that way 

[ScorpiosGroove]

2 hours ago, swissman said:

rating albums > complaining about visuals

no 

[ScorpiosGroove]

1 hour ago, Draper. said:

Dua and Billie are not even 10 years in their careers, Taylor is riding the wave of her peak. But what is Gaga doing over Bey? What is Ariana doing over Bey? What is Rihanna doing over Bey? Just like Bey they are doing the bare minimum and working on their brands (Fenty Beauty, Savage x Fenty, Haus Labs, REM Beauty) because that gives them more money than music. There’s no money to be made in music outside of touring, and we’re lucky she’s one of the greatest touring artists and that makes her a lot of money because otherwise she would cut that too.

 

I’m sorry to say but the industry has changed. Dua herself has already said that she promoted a lot for her first era and that she did not intend in doing that again (something Bey only said after 4). Miley and Adele said they don’t like touring. Doja kind of hates her fans. And none of those has worked half as hard as Bey did.

 

The only one caring about fan experience is Taylor and it’s because she just likes that kind of attention, Bey has never liked that. 

this is a good take but tbf at least Gaga still does award shows, a lot less than in her early career sure but she would NEVER not perform at the grammys when being nominated for something, let alone AOTY. C*roma*ica got an award show medley, 3 music videos, multiple singles, written and spoken interviews, multiple magazine covers, a planned surprise Coachella performance and a planned concert film… we didn’t even get a quarter of that and don’t come with the "gaga’s not a mother" bs the girl’s pushing 40 and basically crippled since her sophomore era

 

all the girls became lazy, old & new, and do everything but music but at least they still give their fans the basics : a few award show performances, a few interviews / magazine covers, mvs and decent promo (like more than 1 & half singles and a vogue cover)… we don’t even get that anymore and that’s like the BASIC pillars of an era, even these days 

 

don’t get it twisted i’ll ALWAYS take Bey’s way of doing things if it means we get the quality albums, tours and visuals she provides over anything the other girls are doing but damn give us at least the basics… cause even when she decides to give us the basics she does like half of the basic required minimum and then goes on vacation for a year 

[Mitsouko]

1 hour ago, Kristie Kuwa said:

Giving us the gayest album shes ever done and treating it like that? No mam

This. She made an album catering to the one demographic that most appreciates content and interaction and proceeded to give us neither. On purpose. Beyonce DAMIEN Knowles you will never see heaven!

[Bey]

41 minutes ago, cloudbusting said:

the way this song makes me want a man and not just in a sexual way

 

actually a good chunk of 4 makes me feel that way 

Top 5 in her discog imo. Best song on 4 too I think. 

[Draper.]

8 minutes ago, ScorpiosGroove said:

this is a good take but tbf at least Gaga still does award shows, a lot less than in her early career sure but she would NEVER not perform at the grammys when being nominated for something, let alone AOTY. C*roma*ica got an award show medley, 3 music videos, multiple singles, written and spoken interviews, multiple magazine covers, a planned surprise Coachella performance and a planned concert film… we didn’t even get a quarter of that and don’t come with the "gaga’s not a mother" bs the girl’s pushing 40 and basically crippled since her sophomore era

We got multiple singles, magazine covers, written intervies a better tour and a better album, and a concert film, and a planned visual album and three act project. I think we kinda won in the planned things that never happened department.

 

 

[cloudbusting]

not the mother-off going on

 

they both get on my nerves by focusing on pushing products instead of the actual content they tease and promise 

although at least Neck is actually releasing her tour film this time instead of letting it hide on a hard drive. Nose needs to catch up there

 

[Draper.]

Well, maybe there IS something going on that we don't know about that explains what happened with the era and I'd be willing to let her express it in the documentary if my country was in the "participating territories". But it's not, so don't stop the complaining. 

[ScorpiosGroove]

5 minutes ago, Draper. said:

We got multiple singles, magazine covers, written intervies a better tour and a better album, and a concert film, and a planned visual album and three act project. I think we kinda won in the planned things that never happened department.

 

 

1 single and one that had to be forced out of her (and came way too late) while every other song was left rotting is hardly multiple singles 

 

and i obviously mean written interviews that feature HER, not some random guy or mama tina

 

5 minutes ago, Draper. said:

a planned visual album and three act project.

 

no comment 

[SashaDevachelli]

What are we complaining about today?

 

-She’s lazy?

-She’s exhibiting hag-like behavior?

-She’s serving a homophobic era for her gayest album?

-The lack of promo?

-The stinky expensive monolithic perfume?

-Album rankings?

-Jlo?

 

What else am I missing

 

[swissman]

42 minutes ago, ScorpiosGroove said:

1 single and one that had to be forced out of her (and came way too late) while every other song was left rotting is hardly multiple singles 

 

and i obviously mean written interviews that feature HER, not some random guy or mama tina

 

 

no comment 

the second single was not forced out of her, she was ready to release one but the CHOICE of which single was forced out of her.

 

 

Edited November 15, 2023 by swissman

[swissman]

do we ever stop to realize had she released SUMMER RENAISSANCE or CHURCH GIRL as the second single like she wanted to, they'd probably flop and then maybe she'd have needed to start promoting or release a video or perform at an awards show?

But no, the Hive wanted what THEY wanted, and we got CUFF IT which was generic enough to be a huge hit without any push and squashed any real need for Beyoncé to do anything more than announce CUFF IT season via instagram stories.

 

 

 

 

Edited November 15, 2023 by swissman

[Blue Rose]

1 hour ago, ScorpiosGroove said:

girl’s pushing 40 and basically crippled since her sophomore era

Telephone part 2 is Bey and Gaga at the palliative care center 

[cloudbusting]

34 minutes ago, swissman said:

do we ever stop to realize had she released SUMMER RENAISSANCE or CHURCH GIRL as the second single like she wanted to, they'd probably flop and then maybe she'd have needed to start promoting or release a video or perform at an awards show?

But no, the Hive wanted what THEY wanted, and we got CUFF IT which was generic enough to be a huge hit without any push and squashed any real need for Beyoncé to do anything more than announce CUFF IT season via instagram stories.

 

 

 

 

ooh whack it again for me!

 

[cloudbusting]

3 minutes ago, Blue Rose said:

Telephone part 2 is Bey and Gaga at the palliative care center 

the climax of the video is them getting a knee and hip replacement, i see the vision

 

 

[Shone Ai]

4 hours ago, ScorpiosGroove said:

this is a good take but tbf at least Gaga still does award shows, a lot less than in her early career sure but she would NEVER not perform at the grammys when being nominated for something, let alone AOTY. C*roma*ica got an award show medley, 3 music videos, multiple singles, written and spoken interviews, multiple magazine covers, a planned surprise Coachella performance and a planned concert film… we didn’t even get a quarter of that and don’t come with the "gaga’s not a mother" bs the girl’s pushing 40 and basically crippled since her sophomore era

 

all the girls became lazy, old & new, and do everything but music but at least they still give their fans the basics : a few award show performances, a few interviews / magazine covers, mvs and decent promo (like more than 1 & half singles and a vogue cover)… we don’t even get that anymore and that’s like the BASIC pillars of an era, even these days 

 

don’t get it twisted i’ll ALWAYS take Bey’s way of doing things if it means we get the quality albums, tours and visuals she provides over anything the other girls are doing but damn give us at least the basics… cause even when she decides to give us the basics she does like half of the basic required minimum and then goes on vacation for a year 

The way I’ve been thinking about this for the last two years  Even though Chrome might not be as good/polished as Rennie and she did disappear before the year ended, we still got more from her content wise, tour and all. 

Edited November 16, 2023 by Shone Ai

[ScorpiosGroove]

14 minutes ago, Blue Rose said:

Telephone part 2 is Bey and Gaga at the palliative care center 

aka the REAL visuals 

[Shone Ai]

1 hour ago, cloudbusting said:

not the mother-off going on

 

they both get on my nerves by focusing on pushing products instead of the actual content they tease and promise 

although at least Neck is actually releasing her tour film this time instead of letting it hide on a hard drive. Nose needs to catch up there

 

Also at least IVP ads serve mini fashion films. I can’t imagine how little they put into Haus Lab promo. 

[ScorpiosGroove]

4 minutes ago, Shone Ai said:

The way I’ve been thinking about this for the last two years  Chrome might not be good/polished as Rennie and did disappear before the year ended, we still got more from her content wise, tour and all. 

i remember monsters fuming about her abandoning her era like a victorian child with cholera but even Gags did more with her era (+ the nonstop product peddling and ugly makeup) 

 

Telephone Part 2 just being a very long infomercial with both of them trying to sell their fans any crap imaginable 

[cloudbusting]

3 minutes ago, Shone Ai said:

Also at least IVP ads serve mini fashion films. I can’t imagine how little they put into Haus Lab promo. 

4closure Labs is probably one of her biggest missed opportunities (in terms of reaching full potential) but that’s a conversation for another base

 

you’re right about the sweatshop couture tho, and at least IVP was good enough for me to occasionally purchase

 

[swissman]

Where are people getting the idea that Beyoncé only just wants to sell products? Besides a perfume and a clothing line, two things she's had in some regard since 2006, what other products is she trying to sell to you? Album/tour merch? And is that something out-of-the-ordinary?

 

 

 

Edited November 15, 2023 by swissman

[QueenB]

2 minutes ago, swissman said:

Where are people getting the idea that Beyoncé only just wants to sell products? Besides a perfume and a clothing line, two things she's had in some regard since 2006, what other products is she trying to sell to you?

$600 Tiffany necklaces, a future hairline care, $400 Balmain iron-on t-shirts, her visuals 

[cloudbusting]

speaking of products and visuals, this still makes me levitate 

[yonsé]

13 minutes ago, cloudbusting said:

speaking of products and visuals, this still makes me levitate 

we need an orville peck collab