trainsskyscrapers Posted November 10, 2023 Posted November 10, 2023 16 minutes ago, BnPac said: They do not count it for her because the album is not affected to her. Various Artists - Dreamgirls Whitney Houston - The Bodyguard They don’t take the decision. If it were released as such : Beyoncé and Various Artists - Dreamgirls... it would count. Anyway she could have had 9#1s now if she had released Homecoming on Friday and pushed The Gift a bit more (twice #2). What is crazy here is that she not only meets the threshold to receive the "Beyoncé and Various Artists" credit for Dreamgirls (more than 50% Beyonce appearances across all album editions - 13/20 original, 19/36 deluxe - more than JHud), but that Dreamgirls: Music from the Motion Picture was released on Mathew Knowles' Music World Entertainment in collaboration with Beyonce's B'Day-era labels at the time (Sony Music Urban/Columbia). It has the DNA of a B album without the title. They've even started counting it towards her totals on Chartmasters because of how "Listen" has outsold all of the other tracks by a massive margin and has become a recurring talent-show staple.
BnPac Posted November 10, 2023 Posted November 10, 2023 1 hour ago, trainsskyscrapers said: What is crazy here is that she not only meets the threshold to receive the "Beyoncé and Various Artists" credit for Dreamgirls (more than 50% Beyonce appearances across all album editions - 13/20 original, 19/36 deluxe - more than JHud), but that Dreamgirls: Music from the Motion Picture was released on Mathew Knowles' Music World Entertainment in collaboration with Beyonce's B'Day-era labels at the time (Sony Music Urban/Columbia). It has the DNA of a B album without the title. They've even started counting it towards her totals on Chartmasters because of how "Listen" has outsold all of the other tracks by a massive margin and has become a recurring talent-show staple. Yeah, I’m surprised Matthew didn’t go for it. She’s also the reason it was so popular and talked about. They used her name in those made up petty fights to drive interest for the movie. But at the same time, she had such bad press during that era, maybe they figure it would fuel the Destiny’s Child - The Supremes’ parallel. I want Beyoncé to go back to her movies’ bag, she was on a good trajectory when she stopped. 1
Calypso Posted November 10, 2023 Posted November 10, 2023 (edited) This is what I have to say about the Israel showcasing thing. Right now, Bey and Parkwood are not showing the movie there; it is on the TBD side of things, like some other regions too. And this I chalk up to Trafalgar Releasing just having all these options. However... If they do showcase the movie there, I will be deeply disappointed and disgusted. I refuse to believe that the artist who is incredibly thoughtful about her messaging, her upliftment, her activism and her platform, and has worked her way up to that freedom, platform and courage to speak boldly through her actions and art, to be a powerful figure in shaping culture, can be excused for showcasing her film in Israel. It is indefensible. And I do not mind any "preemptive" dragging's on twitter/X by people who are upset at even seeing an apartheid state (in the middle of a genocide, being backed by the world powers) being on the page that opens on Bey's films' website. I will reserve my frustrations for when and if the film gets shown there. This is not a joking matter or one to be reserved and twisted for stan wars and perceptions. Edited November 10, 2023 by Calypso minor corrections 1
Alex Posted November 10, 2023 Posted November 10, 2023 got my tix for premiere night curious to see if the girls are going to dress up for this too !
Draper. Posted November 10, 2023 Posted November 10, 2023 Some of you talk as if the people who would watch the movie in Israel are the ones responsible for the genocide or as if Bey was the one deciding where to show the film. 7 1
Tangane Posted November 10, 2023 Posted November 10, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Draper. said: Some of you talk as if the people who would watch the movie in Israel are the ones responsible for the genocide or as if Bey was the one deciding where to show the film. I didn't want to say anything about this mess, but we think alike on this subject. Edited November 10, 2023 by Tangane
Shelter Posted November 10, 2023 Posted November 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Calypso said: This is what I have to say about the Israel showcasing thing. Right now, Bey and Parkwood are not showing the movie there; it is on the TBD side of things, like some other regions too. And this I chalk up to Trafalgar Releasing just having all these options. However... If they do showcase the movie there, I will be deeply disappointed and disgusted. I refuse to believe that the artist who is incredibly thoughtful about her messaging, her upliftment, her activism and her platform, and has worked her way up to that freedom, platform and courage to speak boldly through her actions and art, to be a powerful figure in shaping culture, can be excused for showcasing her film in Israel. It is indefensible. And I do not mind any "preemptive" dragging's on twitter/X by people who are upset at even seeing an apartheid state (in the middle of a genocide, being backed by the world powers) being on the page that opens on Bey's films' website. I will reserve my frustrations for when and if the film gets shown there. This is not a joking matter or one to be reserved and twisted for stan wars and perceptions. But you’re ok with the movie being shown in the US? The place that is funding Israel to kill all those people? 7
Jon Snow Posted November 10, 2023 Posted November 10, 2023 she probably doesn't even know if it's showing there or if it's supposed to be 1
Jon Snow Posted November 10, 2023 Posted November 10, 2023 I assume that there’s a Live album coming with the film and I hope it includes covers of Love Hangover and River Deep Mountain High at the end, just like Homecoming had Before I Let Go 3
luxurious Posted November 10, 2023 Posted November 10, 2023 and hopefully we get loop the sample as a bonus track like how we got bow down at the end of homecoming too 4
luxurious Posted November 10, 2023 Posted November 10, 2023 I’m so excited to have break my soul live if she does release a live album. It was incredible when I attended the tour and in the trailer 1
cloudbusting Posted November 10, 2023 Posted November 10, 2023 MOVE hitting extra hard today it’s been said 500 times before but the tour really elevated it for me
AxelFox Posted November 10, 2023 Posted November 10, 2023 Worst case scenario we'll at least be able to rip off the audio from the movie and make our own live album 2 1
Calypso Posted November 10, 2023 Posted November 10, 2023 4 hours ago, Draper. said: Some of you talk as if the people who would watch the movie in Israel are the ones responsible for the genocide or as if Bey was the one deciding where to show the film. That's not the point. It's a boycott to send a message. Yall can circle jerk in here about it all you want. The public perception is already doing the rounds 1
Draper. Posted November 10, 2023 Posted November 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, Calypso said: That's not the point. It's a boycott to send a message. Yall can circle jerk in here about it all you want. The public perception is already doing the rounds Well congrats, you bought into the same impossible standards Beyoncé’s measured to. That “public perception” you talk about is just white stans from other girls being racist in Twitter because nobody cared when Taylor did it. Bey signed a distribution contract with AMC and Trafalgar which means they will do what they consider necessary to make the most profit out of the movie. Distribution is literally not Bey’s call. And mind you, she used the word “power” in arabic in the tour for a reason. She’s always been very poignant and subtle with those type of messages and she knows what she stands for. F*ck the public perception people who hate her have, honestly. 3 2
Kassi Posted November 10, 2023 Posted November 10, 2023 I hope tickets DO end up going on sale in Israel. Considering Tel Aviv is the only gay hotspot in that bigoted MENA region and Israel actually recognizes gay marriage. Renaissance is perfect for the gays there. We love LGBT rights!
Kassi Posted November 10, 2023 Posted November 10, 2023 14 minutes ago, Calypso said: That's not the point. It's a boycott to send a message. Yall can circle jerk in here about it all you want. The public perception is already doing the rounds Who’s public perception? Those same Twitter activist RATS who dragged her for Lemonade and Black Is King? Ya’ll need to stop giving these experts with NO expertise the time of day and feeding into their stupid anti-Beyoncé crusades. Because that’s all it is. Every movie, product, and service available in the US is available in Israel too. If they wanna boycott, they’re going to have to start with some real ****. Not a limited release concert movie. 1
sillycilla Posted November 10, 2023 Posted November 10, 2023 (edited) Did you really bring up an unsourced polling to justify nonsense? It isn’t even accurate based off data used. You do realize the media has an agenda and are the ones pushing a narrative and propaganda not the other way around lol. It takes a lot to counter and shift opinion on what’s been incorrectly taught to us. That’s why celebs are afraid to speak out. https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/pollster-ratings/ Public sentiment is in alignment with ceasefire and no military aide. And the first time ever public support in UK has gone pro Palestine. People are breaking through the bs. Edited November 10, 2023 by sillycilla 3 1
sillycilla Posted November 10, 2023 Posted November 10, 2023 Anyways, I feel like the international numbers may be close to $60-80 mill and the US around $40 mill. She is looking to gross well over $100 million, hopefully.
suneclipse121 Posted November 10, 2023 Posted November 10, 2023 6 hours ago, Calypso said: This is what I have to say about the Israel showcasing thing. Right now, Bey and Parkwood are not showing the movie there; it is on the TBD side of things, like some other regions too. And this I chalk up to Trafalgar Releasing just having all these options. However... If they do showcase the movie there, I will be deeply disappointed and disgusted. I refuse to believe that the artist who is incredibly thoughtful about her messaging, her upliftment, her activism and her platform, and has worked her way up to that freedom, platform and courage to speak boldly through her actions and art, to be a powerful figure in shaping culture, can be excused for showcasing her film in Israel. It is indefensible. And I do not mind any "preemptive" dragging's on twitter/X by people who are upset at even seeing an apartheid state (in the middle of a genocide, being backed by the world powers) being on the page that opens on Bey's films' website. I will reserve my frustrations for when and if the film gets shown there. This is not a joking matter or one to be reserved and twisted for stan wars and perceptions. I'm gonna say this as respectfully as I can but you really need to get a grip. Neither showtimes or tickets have been announced for that country. You are doing the absolute most for something that has NOT happened. It's extremely cringe and you come off as ******* delusional. Go outside and distract yourself with a job or something because it's giving terminally online. I'm really sick of some of yall. Like damn. 1 1 1
Kassi Posted November 10, 2023 Posted November 10, 2023 8 minutes ago, sillycilla said: Did you really bring up an uncredited polling company to justify nonsense? It isn’t even accurate based off numbers used NOR actual data reported by other credited polling. Also fivethirtyeight rates all the polling companies and pollingusa isn’t even on it. You do realize the media has an agenda and are the ones pushing a narrative and propaganda not the other way around lol. That’s why celebs are afraid to speak out. https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/pollster-ratings/ Public sentiment is in alignment with ceasefire and no military aide. And the first time ever public support in UK has gone pro Palestine. People are breaking through the bs. Echelon Insights is an A rated pollster https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/pollster-ratings/echelon-insights/ Try someone else. Not me.
Blue Rose Posted November 10, 2023 Posted November 10, 2023 1 hour ago, luxurious said: and hopefully we get loop the sample as a bonus track like how we got bow down at the end of homecoming too And the song for the Motherboard interlude. I wish she would announce it with a preorder for vinyls and CDs 1 hour ago, luxurious said: I’m so excited to have break my soul live if she does release a live album. It was incredible when I attended the tour and in the trailer it’s the best part of the show. It looks like the film will show how it came together 1
Kassi Posted November 10, 2023 Posted November 10, 2023 Stop listening to Twitter activists in 2023. These people have no joy, no perspective, and no lives.
sillycilla Posted November 10, 2023 Posted November 10, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Kassi said: Echelon Insights is an A rated pollster https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/pollster-ratings/echelon-insights/ Try someone else. Not me. I didn’t see echelon at the bottom, regardless there is no link to the polling and it’s not on their site. Please provide. Either way years of media narrative is not easy to breakthrough and it’s happening in real time. Civil rights movement was also unpopular and MLK was the most hated man in America. if we want to play the poll game: https://www.timesofisrael.com/polls-show-lower-support-for-israel-among-young-americans-amid-war-against-hamas/amp/ https://news.gallup.com/poll/472070/democrats-sympathies-middle-east-shift-palestinians.aspx Edited November 10, 2023 by sillycilla 1
Blue Rose Posted November 10, 2023 Posted November 10, 2023 1 hour ago, cloudbusting said: MOVE hitting extra hard today it’s been said 500 times before but the tour really elevated it for me I was rewatching some clips from the first shows and the crowd reaction every time it came on was loud af. I feel like it was a secret fan favorite and when the tour started everyone realized that yep she’s that ***** 1
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