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[ScorpiosGroove]

11 minutes ago, sillycilla said:

How about she releases the visuals on streaming and tour film in theaters?  I’m just having a hard time seeing the visuals be successful unless the rumors about actors being in the “film” was true. 

if it’s just a one time only thing for a weekend i can see it work, especially if there’s big cameos, some acting (not hers pls) and the trailer looks exciting 

 

i don’t see her releasing the tour so soon after finishing it + the visuals fit more since it was rumored she wanted to show them in theaters first before putting them on streaming 

 

this is all so exciting 

Edited September 30, 2023 by ScorpiosGroove

[satellites.™]

Its so ez to build hype for something like this too, imagine her team dropped a movie ticket/ visual ticket with each tour ticket and with an unspecified date.

 

This would be so cool and keep anticipation open.

[ScorpiosGroove]

1 hour ago, www said:

Ticketmaster Colombia posted another sign that she is coming to the country next year, check their insta.

 

Regarding the film in the theatres, lots of the rumos we have heard were probably true at some point but bey is unpredictable and keeps changing her plans.

can you link the post ? i can’t find their page 

[Otter]

12 minutes ago, sillycilla said:

How about she releases the visuals on streaming and tour film in theaters?  I’m just having a hard time seeing the visuals be successful unless the rumors about actors being in the “film” was true. 

Honestly I don't necessarily see why the tour would be very successful in cinemas either... I think Taylor has warped peoples expectations. 

 

As a fan of live music I wouldn't go to see anyone's concert film in the cinema other than my fav. I can't see the GP running to check it

 

Ultimately it'll probably just be a very limited release without the intention of big box office success. 

 

A film I think has more potential but is really dependant on quality & cast. It can't be lines of poetry, standing in formation looking cute etc. It needs actual drama performances, plot etc

[Draper.]

I’d rather have her doing the Homecoming release again for the tour film. Netflix + live album at the same time. Sometime first half next year while we wait for act ii. And I’m sure she needs to go through a lot of stuff to pick the best takes and so, it won’t be done in a month. She will probably be directing, unlike that girl.

[Draper.]

1 minute ago, ScorpiosGroove said:

can you link the post ? i can’t find their page 

I think they meant the Ticketmaster Chile post from yerterday. The ig is @ticketmastercl which looks like Colombia, I don’t think TM operates in Colombia.

[Cbreezy]

3 minutes ago, Planet Mars said:

I don't see a theater release being all that successful for her unless they double down on promo, which she's allergic to.

 

They've had more than a year now to make their move with the film and if this is supposed to drop in a few months I'd like to know when  they'll get on pushing it.

 

I don't know when YouTube stopped being good enough, I mean the tour is doing NUMBERS does the era even need extra cashflow? 

I'm kinda with you in terms of being nervous about gross. Bey's numbers haven't been on front-street for a while. And the last time they were, with Lemonade's TV broadcast, they weren't anything to scream about. Since then, she's been protected by the fact streamers don't publish numbers (Homecoming, BIK). 

 

Like you said, they'll have to go IN with the promo. Even then, assuming there's no topline partner (e.g. a studio like Lionsgate) and it really just a venue deal with AMC, then it really will boil down to how much tangible hype she can generate. Which is hard to assess. There's an appetite for the visuals but they are so late that the ship may have passed. 

 

Even timing-wise, it's not really ideal. Thinking of big vehicles for hype, a Super Bowl commercial would do the trick. But that's after this supposed Nov drop. There aren't any award shows or any other big shows to attach to. If there's no sponsor, TV commercials, billboards, etc will have to come out of pocket. Which is marketing spend that then has to be recouped alongside the cost of producing the visuals. 

 

I may totally be under estimating her power, as she legit sold out a world tour off an IG post. But, I guess we'll just have to see. 

[Devin]

If this film release happens I hope at the end there’s a cryptic message to take into act ii. 

[Devin]

I hope the last show is all silver btw.

 

[Planet Mars]

4 minutes ago, Cbreezy said:

I'm kinda with you in terms of being nervous about gross. Bey's numbers haven't been on front-street for a while. And the last time they were, with Lemonade's TV broadcast, they weren't anything to scream about. Since then, she's been protected by the fact streamers don't publish numbers (Homecoming, BIK). 

 

Like you said, they'll have to go IN with the promo. Even then, assuming there's no topline partner (e.g. a studio like Lionsgate) and it really just a venue deal with AMC, then it really will boil down to how much tangible hype she can generate. Which is hard to assess. There's an appetite for the visuals but they are so late that the ship may have passed. 

 

Even timing-wise, it's not really ideal. Thinking of big vehicles for hype, a Super Bowl commercial would do the trick. But that's after this supposed Nov drop. There aren't any award shows or any other big shows to attach to. If there's no sponsor, TV commercials, billboards, etc will have to come out of pocket. Which is marketing spend that then has to be recouped alongside the cost of producing the visuals. 

 

I may totally be under estimating her power, as she legit sold out a world tour off an IG post. But, I guess we'll just have to see. 

No, touring is separate. Beyoncé could go along as she has and she'll always be one of if not the hottest artist on tour.

 

I just don't think she has that reach with cinemas/streaming services. BIK and Homecoming weren't runway smashes and Lemonade wasn't a record breaking drop either.

 

If they want a theatrical release we'll need several months to prepare, a big announcement and promo which would include Beyoncé herself promoting the film.

 

It could be successful, bur they can't do her last minute drop, refusing to acknowledge until day/week of promo pattern.

Edited September 30, 2023 by Planet Mars

[Draper.]

3 minutes ago, Devin said:

I hope the last show is all silver btw.

 

There's no silver AHAP outfit tho.

[Devin]

6 minutes ago, Draper. said:

There's no silver AHAP outfit tho.

She can afford to make one last min. 

 

[Shinning]

14 minutes ago, Cbreezy said:

I'm kinda with you in terms of being nervous about gross. Bey's numbers haven't been on front-street for a while. And the last time they were, with Lemonade's TV broadcast, they weren't anything to scream about. Since then, she's been protected by the fact streamers don't publish numbers (Homecoming, BIK). 

 

Like you said, they'll have to go IN with the promo. Even then, assuming there's no topline partner (e.g. a studio like Lionsgate) and it really just a venue deal with AMC, then it really will boil down to how much tangible hype she can generate. Which is hard to assess. There's an appetite for the visuals but they are so late that the ship may have passed. 

 

Even timing-wise, it's not really ideal. Thinking of big vehicles for hype, a Super Bowl commercial would do the trick. But that's after this supposed Nov drop. There aren't any award shows or any other big shows to attach to. If there's no sponsor, TV commercials, billboards, etc will have to come out of pocket. Which is marketing spend that then has to be recouped alongside the cost of producing the visuals. 

 

I may totally be under estimating her power, as she legit sold out a world tour off an IG post. But, I guess we'll just have to see. 

If Halsey can drop an album film in theaters then so can Bey. We just can't expect Taylor Swift numbers from her.

[BGKC]

Yea, if the rumors are true we are going to need her to promote the hell out of it. She can no longer afford to do the bare minimum, especially after 1.5 years. I’d hope for bonus track(s) or a new single all together to help generate more buzz too. Some celebrity features would also be likely. 

[tachiwaka]

If this is all about the visuals, they might be delaying the announcement until the SAG strike is over. Unlike Taylor’s concert film, Beyoncé likely has actual actors who can’t promote their involvement, and even if she doesn’t, she herself is in SAG and couldn’t promote without permission. 

[ScorpiosGroove]

9 minutes ago, tachiwaka said:

If this is all about the visuals, they might be delaying the announcement until the SAG strike is over. Unlike Taylor’s concert film, Beyoncé likely has actual actors who can’t promote their involvement, and even if she doesn’t, she herself is in SAG and couldn’t promote without permission. 

i thought the strike was coming to an end ? 

[Cbreezy]

11 minutes ago, ScorpiosGroove said:

if it’s just a one time only thing for a weekend i can see it work, especially if there’s big cameos, some acting (not hers pls) and the trailer looks exciting 

 

i don’t see her releasing the tour so soon after finishing it + the visuals fit more since it was rumored she wanted to show them in theaters first before putting them on streaming 

 

this is all so exciting 

I think you hit the nail on the head. A "one weekend only" approach is exactly the type of marketing trick to ensure hype and hoopla. It also protects her from the demands of huge gross. If she does big numbers, great...the hype worked. If it does moderately well, then "it was just one weekend". It's a win-win.

[ICLDXU4HS]

57 minutes ago, Cbreezy said:

Not getting why anyone would think the AMC thing is for anything other than the visuals. 

 

It's the natural progression for her visual output and is one marketing angle she's yet to explore (even if she's only going that route because the streamers passed). 

 

It's way more realistic to expect the visuals in theaters and the separate doc / concert film on a streamer at a later date, as there's no real justification for a low-fi behind-the-scenes doc to be screened in theaters. THAT feels more suited to home viewing.

The tour would do infinitely better at the box office (just straight-up the show, no documentary shenanigans). Which is why I'm expecting that for now. 

[Draper.]

What's the point of having a thread about anything Beyoncé if it's always full of swifties? That Visuals thread is already not about Beyoncé. 

[sillycilla]

1 hour ago, ScorpiosGroove said:

if it’s just a one time only thing for a weekend i can see it work, especially if there’s big cameos, some acting (not hers pls) and the trailer looks exciting 

 

i don’t see her releasing the tour so soon after finishing it + the visuals fit more since it was rumored she wanted to show them in theaters first before putting them on streaming 

 

this is all so exciting 

Didn’t Taylor release the theater announcement a couple of weeks after her last US date and right after filming the show? That was a quick turn around. 
 

Even if it’s a weekend thing, how will that work? I don’t believe an artist has ever released music videos to theaters, only concert films. Idk, I’m having a hard time wrapping my mind around it. If other A list stars are involved, maybe just maybe gross 5 mill.

 

I’m excited but her business reputation is on the line after BIK. Studios and steamers are paying attention to the numbers.

Edited September 30, 2023 by sillycilla

[ScorpiosGroove]

6 minutes ago, Cbreezy said:

I think you hit the nail on the head. A "one weekend only" approach is exactly the type of marketing trick to ensure hype and hoopla. It also protects her from the demands of huge gross. If she does big numbers, great...the hype worked. If it does moderately well, then "it was just one weekend". It's a win-win.

MTE, as you said it would both protect her from a mediocre box office and push people to go see it due to the exclusivity and one time only approach 

 

i think that’s the most logical (and likely) thing to happen 

 

also her showing the visuals in theaters doesn’t prevent her from showing the tour there next year, it would serve as a test without her doing much (as usual) 

[Cbreezy]

34 minutes ago, Shinning said:

If Halsey can drop an album film in theaters then so can Bey. We just can't expect Taylor Swift numbers from her.

True, but let's be real. 

 

The GP expectations for a Halsey or Travis Scott are way different for a Bey / Taylor.

 

I'm already annoyed at how easy it will be for people to draw comparisons to Bey and Taylor, while purposefully neglecting the fact one harnesses a huge middle America audience and the other is a Black R&B act. 

 

I'm hoping Bey can pull off what seemed to be her desired angle. Limited theatrical release and a very quick turnaround with its arrival on streaming.

 

A theatrical release announced imminently will benefit from the end of tour / "what's next" hype and a streaming debut shortly after that will benefit her in the holiday season.

[sillycilla]

1 hour ago, Otter said:

Honestly I don't necessarily see why the tour would be very successful in cinemas either... I think Taylor has warped peoples expectations. 

 

As a fan of live music I wouldn't go to see anyone's concert film in the cinema other than my fav. I can't see the GP running to check it

 

Ultimately it'll probably just be a very limited release without the intention of big box office success. 

 

A film I think has more potential but is really dependant on quality & cast. It can't be lines of poetry, standing in formation looking cute etc. It needs actual drama performances, plot etc

If you look at all the last really successful concert films, Justin Bieber and Katy Perry. Current popular pop artists  of their time with a teen audience that will run to theaters. There is at least a precedence for concert films having more appeal. 
 

If the visual film is more along the lines of the OTR trailer with Jake Gyllenhall, I would feel a little differently. It’s still a big risk.

Edited September 30, 2023 by sillycilla

[Tripthelight]

We should prepare ourselves for the inevitable. We KNOW Bey is promo adverse, and I don’t see that changing. At most, we’ll get a slick trailer and a few lavish featurettes. And regardless of how well it performs, people will still call it/her a flop. So whatever happens, just enjoy the ride. This will be a cute moment for the Hive to come together post tour and once again celebrate her best album. 

[ScorpiosGroove]

1 minute ago, sillycilla said:

Didn’t Taylor release the theater announcement a couple of weeks after her last US date and right after filming the show? That was a quick turn around. 
 

Even if it’s a weekend thing, how will that work? I don’t think an artist has ever released music videos to theaters, only concert films. Idk, I’m having a hard time wrapping my mind around it. If other A list stars are involved, maybe just maybe gross 5 mill.

 

I’m excited but her business reputation is on the line after BIK. Studios and steamers are paying attention to the numbers.

now you know that girl isn’t a hands on perfectionist like Bey is, her sloppy album covers and "visuals" prove that 

she’s all about doing bare minimum to squeeze every last penny out of her naive fans as soon & as often as possible

 

Halsey showed a visual album for an album that made 0 noise in IMAX theaters, if she can do it so can Bey

 

this is mostly about money so if she’s really at risk of not making as much as she wants to she’ll start working, she CAN promote if it means more cash for her, that could work in our favor for once 

 

nonetheless, i still think this is mostly just a formality, trying a new visual medium while getting some money + ensuring she can be eligible for a maximum amount of awards