fan base Beyoncé

[Machete]

27 minutes ago, QueenB said:

Parkwood just needs to be dissolved and she signs a big deal with a record label, it's ok to admit she can't handle all the responsibilities a label does 

 

Just look at a certain pop star who has a movie coming out, she was big enough to make her own label but signed with Universal anyways because some things are just handled better under a label. We would actually get clear singles that are sent to radio, we would get properly stocked vinyls and much more high quality merch (like why were the pose boxes not an actual new album cover and just an iron on tshirt). She could easily get a huge upfront paycheck, expenses paid for, and the focus would be on HER because she's one of the biggest stars in the world. 

To be fair #that popstar has a lot of her own in house team. Like Bey she is also managed by "herself", but even unlike Bey she has her own touring company and doesn't use LiveNation.

I don't think Parkwood/its employees as a whole should get all the blame. Bey has hired some top tier execs there, and yet the output is still a mess. At the end of the day it depends on Bey's professional energy. Is she receptive of people telling her when an idea isn't good or does she label them as haters who just don't see her vision? I can see her doing the latter because of how much gold she struck with ST, which was obviously against every execs wishes, convincing her that every idea she has is golden and anyone who says other wise is trying to limit her growth. 

[ScorpiosGroove]

if she’s doing TG/BIK strategy 2.0 she might as well release a Renaissance Deluxe along with the visuals 

 

I totally forgot she did that for TG so might as well just stuff in the remixes, Loop The Sample & maybe even an extended version of something 

[Triton]

Parkwood employees get paid a yearly salary, they got paid for the same amount of work they did during COVID as they are now, why would they go out of their way or go above and beyond for this hag?
 

The checks are clearing, no need to push her. Just smile and wave, let her think she’s elusive and let the money come in. Great gig actually. 

[bijonse]

1 hour ago, Bender34 said:

Is that not just the screens they use to show ads around the stadium?

Is it? I didn’t recognize it cuz I’m used to seeing ads on them. Welp they just gave me an idea that bey should use regardless  

[Triton]

51 minutes ago, ScorpiosGroove said:

so i ask again, who will print out the VG leak, put it on a big sign and proudly show it to her tonight ? c’mon let’s get her sweating 

Swing it high and proud on a crutch to make sure she sees it. He’ll throw the crutch at her. 

[Kristie Kuwa]

25 minutes ago, Demiboyx said:

These are the people I feel the most sorry for, imagine putting in that many hours for her to shelve it or not give it any promo and let it flop in the abyss of promising projects of hers after months of work 

Mind you she for sure put in the contact they cant use it elsewhere

[Blue Rose]

2 minutes ago, ScorpiosGroove said:

if she’s doing TG/BIK strategy 2.0 she might as well release a Renaissance Deluxe along with the visuals 

 

I totally forgot she did that for TG so might as well just stuff in the remixes, Loop The Sample & maybe even an extended version of something 

my sources tell me there is a deluxe album coming. She’s calling it the Chrome edition. The cover is the tour picture but with a silvery background instead of the black. Cuff It remix, AHAP remix and BMS remix will all be included and 5 other tracks (remixes and new songs.) Karol G is one of the featured artists. The album will come with a DVD of the visuals like Self Titled. But keep in mind that my sources are the voices in my head.

[carameldelight]

We are really yanking Parkwood/Beyonce's scalp. AND THE MOST FRUSTRATING THING ABOUT IT IS THAT THEY WON'T EVER GET TO SEE WHAT FANS THINK. 

[Beyondslay]

1 minute ago, Blue Rose said:

my sources tell me there is a deluxe album coming. She’s calling it the Chrome edition. The cover is the tour picture but with a silvery background instead of the black. Cuff It remix, AHAP remix and BMS remix will all be included and 5 other tracks (remixes and new songs.) Karol G is one of the featured artists. The album will come with a DVD of the visuals like Self Titled. But keep in mind that my sources are the voices in my head.

Omgeee. 

[Bicassie]

6 minutes ago, Blue Rose said:

my sources tell me there is a deluxe album coming. She’s calling it the Chrome edition. The cover is the tour picture but with a silvery background instead of the black. Cuff It remix, AHAP remix and BMS remix will all be included and 5 other tracks (remixes and new songs.) Karol G is one of the featured artists. The album will come with a DVD of the visuals like Self Titled. But keep in mind that my sources are the voices in my head.

says hi

[ScorpiosGroove]

5 minutes ago, carameldelight said:

We are really yanking Parkwood/Beyonce's scalp. AND THE MOST FRUSTRATING THING ABOUT IT IS THAT THEY WON'T EVER GET TO SEE WHAT FANS THINK. 

if we’re lucky the Parkwood employees in here will tell her 

 

7 minutes ago, Blue Rose said:

my sources tell me there is a deluxe album coming. She’s calling it the Chrome edition. The cover is the tour picture but with a silvery background instead of the black. Cuff It remix, AHAP remix and BMS remix will all be included and 5 other tracks (remixes and new songs.) Karol G is one of the featured artists. The album will come with a DVD of the visuals like Self Titled. But keep in mind that my sources are the voices in my head.

the way all of this would eat but let’s keep the Karol feature OFF the table

[sillycilla]

This is a bit of a slay

 

https://x.com/jolinajasmine1/status/1694828849702342754?s=46&t=DBEzweI3pkN0q0I7VG8vbQ

[Triton]

11 minutes ago, Blue Rose said:

my sources tell me there is a deluxe album coming. She’s calling it the Chrome edition. The cover is the tour picture but with a silvery background instead of the black. Cuff It remix, AHAP remix and BMS remix will all be included and 5 other tracks (remixes and new songs.) Karol G is one of the featured artists. The album will come with a DVD of the visuals like Self Titled. But keep in mind that my sources are the voices in my head.

All Up In Your Mind! Ha power! 

[Lose My Breath]

1 hour ago, carameldelight said:

I feel bad for some of the artists/producers that jumped at the opportunity to work with her but have no idea what's going on and can hardly talk about it. Will they get the proper exposure due to it being released so late?

 

I remember the dream going on and on about break my soul's meaning and how sentimental it actually is. He's been silent ever since because nothing's happening. 

Yes, and those writers/producers on Virgos Groove, who had that magazine article that was later redacted

 

 

[swissman]

28 minutes ago, SashaDevachelli said:

Well, the last page you mentioned that she implied that she wanted to let the music speak for itself. And yet:

 

-BMS being pushed on radio, BMS (Hive Certified Video), remixes for BMS, Cuff It, AHAP, Visualizers, Cliquebait teasers, lyric videos

-A clothing line with pieces dedicated to each song off the album

-People from her team implying a traditional rollout

-If we’re going by the article’s timeline, we would have gotten a few videos traditionally but instead we’re getting a whole film again, but she doesn’t want to release it without a streaming service paying her the amount she desires.

 

Does she want to be an artist who just drops something, let’s it perform on its own, do nothing, and have doubts that it will do well? Or is she the parkwood exec who wants to ensure a profit is being made by pushing the songs, keeping the album stable, and making sure she gets her moneys worth from these visuals (despite already making a huge amount from box sets, album sales, tour sales, and Dubai)? What does she want? Because as fans it just feels confusing.  
 

I was merely making a joke though in the original post and I don’t care THAT much anyways, but that’s just how it seems to me

The topic of music speaking for itself is relative to the use of visuals. Any sort of promotion of the music, remixes, visualizer (which is just animated image on a loop) doesn't speak for the music in anyway shape or form, it's only widening the reach and that press release did not say "we will never promote it, the music will promote itself".

 

I highly doubt seeing the CUFF IT cover spin around in circles in a visualizer told anyone anything about the song than they already knew. A lyric video is literally music speaking for itself. The Hive Certified BMS video, months after the song was released was a celebration that exemplifies people's connection to the song (ie, how the music spoke for itself). The only thing that undermines the "music first" is the ITG teaser, which stops after about a minute to let the music (and the rest of the album) continue to speak for itself.

 

The Balmain line also doesn't speak for the music. I can't really understand how it would. It's clothing inspired by the songs and probably no one understood the record more after seeing it. It's the other way around. To understand the clothing you must understand the music.

 

Implying it's a traditional rollout while indeed having elements of a traditional rollout (no surprise releases, advance announcements and first single) doesn't sound like contradiction either.

 

I also would presume that the visuals' "money's worth" is as much getting the expenses covered as is it factoring in the potential worth of the piece as a whole. Art is often greater than the sum of its parts. An artist can splash $3 of paint on a canvas, but if that artist has the cultural caché and is understood to be conceptually genius, they can charge $3,000,000 so being offered $30,000 is going to seem like the buyer doesn't value their artistry/perspective/etc.

I see you said it was a joke so I apologize for taking it too seriously, but to me Beyoncé seems pretty consistent in practicing what she preaches (through her practices).

 

 

Edited September 1, 2023 by swissman

[suneclipse121]

3 minutes ago, ScorpiosGroove said:

if we’re lucky the Parkwood employees in here will tell her 

 

the way all of this would eat but let’s keep the Karol feature OFF the table

This!!! I would rather get Rosalia before Karol G Karol’s music is mostly generic garbage. 

[Triton]

2 minutes ago, Lose My Breath said:

Yes, and those writers/producers on Virgos Groove, who had that magazine article that was later redacted

 

 

If only she put in as much effort into promoting as she does those NDAs. 

[SashaDevachelli]

I do not possess the vernacular to engage in a war of words with Swissman, I need to clamp my tongue and sit my big ass down

[Mitsouko]

NDAoncé go to hell

 

[swissman]

In regards to the creatives who worked on the visuals, it's pretty common for projects to take months or even a year to come out. This is a visual "film". Movies routinely are released a year or more after filming has wrapped, and often involve reshoots. It's also in every creative contract I've ever read that the client reserves the right to not publish the work in the end for whatever reason. If the project is cancelled before your work is complete, usually the contracts stipulate your payment in that scenario.

 

For sure it would suck to be so excited but can't talk about it because you signed an NDA, but unless you didn't read your contracts, there's no surprise about it.

 

 

Edited September 1, 2023 by swissman

[swissman]

3 minutes ago, SashaDevachelli said:

I do not possess the vernacular to engage in a war of words with Swissman, I need to clamp my tongue and sit my big ass down

lol nooo I really don't mean it to be a war of words!!!!!

[SashaDevachelli]

1 minute ago, swissman said:

lol nooo I really don't mean it to be a war of words!!!!!

LOL I’m just messing around you know I appreciate your posts, you always provide insightful commentary and logic which we need especially in the midst of a messy era with disgruntled fans

[SashaDevachelli]

That being said:

 

[Tripthelight]

swissman is like the meme of the girl getting hit with volleyballs, except he’s catching them all and throwing them right back. 

[ScorpiosGroove]

to lighten up the mood a little, let’s drag her streams now