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[Hallad173]

3 minutes ago, QueenB said:

and then everyone will stand up and clap

 I’m weak 

[Planet Mars]

Meh, I'm on the ledge with her. I wasn't expecting anything so I'm not dissapointed and my opinion on the state of her career remains the same.

 

Beyoncé is a legend. She's cemented her status and has nothing to prove any more. There's a method to her madness and her career speaks for itself. She'll always have her fans and even the casual admirers will be there to snatch tickets up to fill those venues when she goes on tour. The money will continue to roll in as well.

 

Where this really hurts her is her catalogue. Beyoncé's inability to properly execute an era has negatively impacted her catalogue. Lemonade is one of the most acclaimed records of all time, but it's recurrent streams and poor longevity on the charts speaks volumes. RENAISSANCE was the perfect opportunity to turn that around, but once again, her refusal to give proper attention to the album and its singles will grant the record the same fate as Lemonade in the long run. It's longevity is all thanks to her fambase who pushed on social media to make it a hit.

 

It's why I've always said Taylor Swift took the Beyoncé print and perfected it. It's why those catalogue streams are still healthy and why those old albums chart as long as they do. Even Rihanna is currently pulling in more streams, and that's thanks to those HITS.

 

It's funny that Beyoncé purposely shifted her career to focus on albums for the sake of her catalogue lasting longer, but her albums have since been neglected and the long run failed to gain that status.

 

Again, I'm not surprised, and her career is still in a good place, but I'm about 90% sure that RENAISSANCE, despite its potential will age like Lemondade. Acclaimed and revered, but I don't see it charting for years and I don't see Beyoncé's catalogue streams improving or doing much going forward.

 

She needs a revamp.

 

[QueenB]

For the record, I didn't expect any visuals tonight, I just waited a year to really air out how BAD this era is.

I expected nothing and was still disappointed

 

Now streaming Heated, can't wait to scream loud in club renaissance when she says "mute" 

[Kristie Kuwa]

3 minutes ago, Planet Mars said:

Meh, I'm on the ledge with her. I wasn't expecting anything so I'm not dissapointed and my opinion on the state of her career remains the same.

 

Beyoncé is a legend. She's cemented her status and has nothing to prove any more. There's a method to her madness and her career speaks for itself. She'll always have her fans and even the casual admirers will be there to snatch tickets up to fill those venues when she goes on tour. The money will continue to roll in as well.

 

Where this really hurts her is her catalogue. Beyoncé's inability to properly execute an era has negatively impacted her catalogue. Lemonade is one of the most acclaimed records of all time, but it's recurrent streams and poor longevity on the charts speaks volumes. RENAISSANCE was the perfect opportunity to turn that around, but once again, her refusal to give proper attention to the album and its singles will grant the record the same fate as Lemonade in the long run. It's longevity is all thanks to her fambase who pushed on social media to make it a hit.

 

It's why I've always said Taylor Swift took the Beyoncé print and perfected it. It's why those catalogue streams are still healthy and why those old albums chart as long as they do. Even Rihanna is currently pulling in more streams, and that's thanks to those HITS.

 

It's funny that Beyoncé purposely shifted her career to focus on albums for the sake of her catalogue lasting longer, but her albums have since been neglected and the long run failed to gain that status.

 

Again, I'm not surprised, and her career is still in a good place, but I'm about 90% sure that RENAISSANCE, despite its potential will age like Lemondade. Acclaimed and revered, but I don't see it charting for years and I don't see Beyoncé's catalogue streams improving or doing much going forward.

 

She needs a revamp.

 

Its clearly because she believes we live in the 70s and shes here to live her Nina Simone fantasy (while playing basic children piano) instead of the 21st century that revolves and thrives on engagement via social media and streaming. 

She wants to be oldschool so bad and do what her favs did without realizing that those times have absolutely changed. 

 

What really makes me wonder about this whole ordeal is that we say shes a Business woman and cares about her coin, yet IvyPark is flopping due to piss poor Management, Chloe is flopping, her eras are doing very supbar in the longrun, she doesnt maximize her earnings whatsoever (releasing those visuals way later will not result in the same outcome than it couldve been when people actually cared), the touring promo was piss poor... I mean hello? Shes honestly so very lucky to be extremely talented, cause you can tell she lacks it in some other department

[SashaDevachelli]

I love a good meltdown, I love discourse, it just refreshes the basé. In that sense, thank you Mrs Carter for being such a hag

[ShouldersSideways]

Happy anniversary. She loves us deep -- particularly our pockets. 

 

 

[QueenB]

1 minute ago, Kristie Kuwa said:

Its clearly because she believes we live in the 70s and shes here to live her Nina Simone fantasy (while playing basic children piano) instead of the 21st century that revolves and thrives on engagement via social media and streaming. 

She wants to be oldschool so bad and do what her favs did without realizing that those times have absolutely changed. 

 

What really makes me wonder about this whole ordeal is that we say shes a Business woman and cares about her coin, yet IvyPark is flopping due to piss poor Management, Chloe is flopping, her eras are doing very supbar in the longrun, she doesnt maximize her earnings whatsoever (releasing those visuals way later will not result in the same outcome than it couldve been when people actually cared), the touring promo was piss poor... I mean hello? Shes honestly so very lucky to be extremely talented, cause you can tell she lacks it in some other department

It's so weird she wants to be old school but they were doing PROMO back then? Performances on television, interviews, magazine covers (plural), etc. I just know parkwood is BURNING cash, remember when Tina revealed Beyoncé had to pay the costs on Black is King? I bet Disney offered to finance it but wanted it to be released in tandem with the Lion King movie and when she said she needs an entire year they laughed and said she would have to pay

[Embustera]

Julez is a mess on TIkTok. He likes the attention he gets. Take his phone Solange! 

[ShouldersSideways]

1 minute ago, QueenB said:

It's so weird she wants to be old school but they were doing PROMO back then? Performances on television, interviews, magazine covers (plural), etc. I just know parkwood is BURNING cash, remember when Tina revealed Beyoncé had to pay the costs on Black is King? I bet Disney offered to finance it but wanted it to be released in tandem with the Lion King movie and when she said she needs an entire year they laughed and said she would have to pay

Even more embarrassing is Tina's meltdown about how Disney wasn't promoting the movie. (I think she was insinuating bc Bey was Black.)

 

No, they did what they could without the titular star and director moving a finger. I really do love that she's private, but you can't be a private filmmaker. 

[Arrogant]

On 7/29/2023 at 2:09 AM, Fleahive said:

Does anyone know why we haven’t ever seen an interaction, pic, or reference between Beyoncé and Angelina Jolie aka the queen of singing and the queen of acting? Do they have beef? Is Bey team Jennifer? It doesn’t sit right with me. I want to see them stan each other. THAT would be her ultimate female collab. 

Your attempts at trolling are so...boring.

[SashaDevachelli]

I wish I could pick her brain, I really want to know what exactly she hopes to gain with the decisions she makes. Is this truly all a calculated effort to do the least things possible? Does she simply just not care? I mean we know obtaining profit is important to her, and she’s passionate about her art, so why does she treat her art the way she does? Truly a mystifying being

[ShouldersSideways]

2 minutes ago, SashaDevachelli said:

I wish I could pick her brain, I really want to know what exactly she hopes to gain with the decisions she makes. Is this truly all a calculated effort to do the least things possible? Does she simply just not care? I mean we know obtaining profit is important to her, and she’s passionate about her art, so why does she treat her art the way she does? Truly a mystifying being

She's a "I'm not like other girls!!!" kinda girl. Being contrarian is her thing

[QueenB]

6 minutes ago, ShouldersSideways said:

Even more embarrassing is Tina's meltdown about how Disney wasn't promoting the movie. (I think she was insinuating bc Bey was Black.)

 

No, they did what they could without the titular star and director moving a finger. I really do love that she's private, but you can't be a private filmmaker. 

LMFAO they at least put a banner on Disney+, that's about as much work as she did with her instagram post. What can Disney do with a film where the star and director won't do interviews, won't make appearances, and won't do a live performance? She couldve told them she wanted to perform at Disney World to promote it and they would've let her.

 

[BnPac]

But tbh outside overly optimistic members like Draper, did you guys really expect something for Renaissance's anniversary? Let alone the whole film? There was not even a teaser. Also this week Travis is releasing and he's currently a bigger artist. Nothing could have come this weekend.

 

Anyway I hope she comes back to Europe and films the tour DVD either in Paris, London or Spain with original outfits and intro. 

Edited July 30, 2023 by BnPac

[HausofArtpopII]

yall are tryna dig too deep into this.

 

she's a troll plain and simple 

[BnPac]

1 hour ago, campelo said:

Reading some responses is funny, she is not entitled to release visuals, I wish she never recorded it just to spit the hive, that demands anything as it is her duty  

Tbh no one asked for a whole film. 

I would have been perfectly content with actual singles being released with their related videos. And poof move on to another era! This era has been garbage outside the tour. We can not even get singles properly released. That's the bare minimum. 

 

I agree that I'm surprised that some fans still had faith that the release would be so well oiled as to coincide with Ren's anniversary. That's just not last-decade Bey. However I think some fans are sadly still waiting and expecting visuals because SHE teased them, through her team on IG, on tour and released a whole teaser for it one year ago. And to say she's not entitled is a bit weird. But to be honest, that's probably her sentiment. 

[Lovett]

I feel for you guys who are clearly stressed/upset by all this. I promise it's so much more enjoyable to just let it go and be excited when/if it actually arrives. I get such enjoyment from listening to the album (literally doing it right now) and scrolling through tour updates, without any stress that "OMG she hasn't released the visualsss!!!11". I get it, but surely it's exhausting at this point and just ruining your joy!

[Kh-Loud]

This hag has given me so much over the past decades and her arts has helped me got through sooo many dark and difficult events in my life  that I can’t stay mad at her despite how delusional she can be, sometimes or most of the times. Ugh I still refuse to listen to Travis, and I’m so mad that she replaced LOOP THE SAMPLE with ECHOS for the show. My show is next week and I better get the ORIGINAL LOOP THE SAMPLE back bitchhhhh 

Edited July 30, 2023 by Kh-Loud

[ScorpiosGroove]

just retire at this point, clubfoot 

 

no one wants your ugly visuals anyway you child eating witch 

 

Spoiler

[Cbreezy]

3 minutes ago, HausofArtpopII said:

yall are tryna dig too deep into this.

 

she's a troll plain and simple 

This. 

 

It's one of those scenarios where several things can be true at once. 

 

* The visuals ARE coming: she wouldn't have voluntarily name-checked them in the actual tour if they weren't ("you asked for the visuals...called for the queen...she moves at her own pace"}. Very much dispels the idea of "if" they're coming (they are) and makes it more a case of "when". 

 

* She is a troll. 

 

* It IS becoming boring being a Bey stan. I'll always be one. Ever and always. The standard of her output and my love for everything she is is too top tier. But, she's arguably driving this "no promo/silence/surprise" thing in a direction that a) could end up backfiring at some point and b) just doesn't make the "ride" that exciting for us as fans. The latter being most surprising because she and Mathew really pioneered what our generation understood as THEE handbook for promoting a Black superstar as a MPG and impacting EVERY lane. I get the whole eye for surprise, but sometimes IT"S OK TO MOVE normally. In fairness, no one ever said the anniversary for the visuals were certain. WE took it and ran with it. But only because it makes so much sense logically. She's really about to do BIK all over again. For her sake, she better hope a) the streaming partner has more pull than Disney+ did for that and b) people end up caring to the extent she hopes wherever it drops. 

 

* Her using Echoes and Good Life in the tour was a tease for new music IMO.

 

* If going with her OTRII / EIL strategy, she could in theory use show 2 (today) to drop the trailer.

 

* Whenever the visuals comes, we'll a;; gag and all the paragraphs will be a distant memory. A slighty abusive relationship loop lol.

 

We'll see.

[Otter]

I do think some of you guys need to let go of the numbers (ironically referenced in echoes)... my only disappointment at this moment is lack of singles or song visibility  because ultimately that's what clubs & radio will play in 5 years time

 

No Cozy, Heated or Pure in public venues.

 

...just Cuff It which I'm sick of hearing tbh 

[ScorpiosGroove]

when she sang sweet dreams at the FWT and did the spanking motion during the "some of them want to abuse you" part while cackling… she meant herself 

[QueenB]

Please keep in mind that this is the same lady who made “formation tour dvd” shirts to sell. Which we took for it being a thing that’s happening, only for us to find out the formation tour is in our head 

[Monday Night Messiah]

4 hours ago, Fleahive said:

Does anyone else get heart palpitations (in a good way) when a random influencer you follow attends the Renaissance tour when none of their previous content even hinted they were a Beyoncé fan? Ugh yes all the hotties I follow on TikTok have been attending. I’m shocked every time it happens. I always assume they hate her. 

If they're white, yes. I automatically assume they stan Gaga, Britney, Christina or Taylor. So it's always a surprise when I'm wrong.

[Monday Night Messiah]

3 hours ago, Machete said:

Not getting visuals is one thing (massively exhausting don’t get me wrong) but manageable. It’s the fact she couldn’t even throw together a Chat-GPT written speech or IG caption on the album for its anniversary…

I don't mind this because for a long time, she hasn't even done any of this. We get the usual deluxe release. Which I was expecting to be the visuals. But it's whatever at this point.