Devin Posted October 11, 2022 Posted October 11, 2022 5 minutes ago, trainsskyscrapers said: Most Definitely. I would've switched "Daddy" for "Summertime" w/ Diddy and maybe added bonus track "What's It Gonna Be" on the standard edition over "That's How You Like It" to remove all filler, but it's still an impressive debut. Taste esp with Summertime. Like I blocked Daddy from my Spotify cause I got tired of skipping it.
bijonse Posted October 11, 2022 Posted October 11, 2022 7 minutes ago, trainsskyscrapers said: Most Definitely. I would've switched "Daddy" for "Summertime" w/ Diddy and maybe added bonus track "What's It Gonna Be" on the standard edition over "That's How You Like It" to remove all filler, but it's still an impressive debut. That’s how you like it is so good i don’t understand the hate. the ad libs are some of my faves on the album
Cbreezy Posted October 11, 2022 Posted October 11, 2022 6 hours ago, Daydream said: Yall think we are getting a rock and country album but just watch when the reality is we get a pure pop album full of Sia and Ryan Tedder songs, and an R&B album with Tricky Stewart and more of The-Dream. While I actually want the Country/Southern (tinged) project, I'd actually be here for this. Especially as Chart Hive. As necessary (and genius) a brand shift as ST and Lemonade were (and I wouldn't change a thing), I've missed how amazingly omnipresent she can be when being "CommercialYonce'. We can't even make it a promo thing. Because she arguably did more to promote Lemonade and Hold Up compared to Ren but BMS and now Cuff It are on track to being her biggest singles with the GP since IASF...without promo. It really boils down to how commercially palatable the music is to the masses. I love that our girl doesn't always play to those rules, but after not doing it for a decade, I'm ready to play ball again. It's a really smart way to level up her streaming clout and will see her leave us on a high note heading into her next era (outside of this possible trilogy).
trainsskyscrapers Posted October 11, 2022 Posted October 11, 2022 (edited) 19 minutes ago, bijonse said: That’s how you like it is so good i don’t understand the hate. the ad libs are some of my faves on the album I like the ad-libs too, but it's the weakest link in Beyoncé & Jay-Z's DIL collaborations as he's ALL over those writing credits - 5 original tracks? It also helped jump-start this narrative that she was dependent on him as a solo act. Next, he was involved in Lose My Breath, and instrumental in the beats of Girl, Is She The Reason, and Game Over getting to the girls for Destiny Fulfilled. Finally, having Deja Vu, Upgrade U, Kitty Kat, and Welcome To Hollywood on most deluxe versions of her next solo project didn't help much either. Edited October 11, 2022 by trainsskyscrapers
trainsskyscrapers Posted October 11, 2022 Posted October 11, 2022 5 hours ago, Draper. said: Actually, I’ve been thinking that we got some Nile Rodgers and Giorgio Moroder in Renaissance but I’m still missing a Quincy Jones reference, so hopefully it’s there in one of the other acts. She referenced Quincy on HOMECOMING. The first track "Welcome" samples that trumpet arrangement in "The Wiz" where each new color is announced.
Lose My Breath Posted October 11, 2022 Posted October 11, 2022 7 hours ago, Blue Rose said: I got some brand new tea actually… Shareeee
SashaDevachelli Posted October 11, 2022 Posted October 11, 2022 Oh we’re bringing up unreleased tracks? Let’s talk about THESE bops that I feel like don’t get mentioned as much B’day had the best unreleased songs I swear: Creole, Back Up, Lost Yo Mind, My First Time, Ice Cream WHEW
Otter Posted October 11, 2022 Posted October 11, 2022 7 hours ago, Cbreezy said: While I actually want the Country/Southern (tinged) project, I'd actually be here for this. Especially as Chart Hive. As necessary (and genius) a brand shift as ST and Lemonade were (and I wouldn't change a thing), I've missed how amazingly omnipresent she can be when being "CommercialYonce'. We can't even make it a promo thing. Because she arguably did more to promote Lemonade and Hold Up compared to Ren but BMS and now Cuff It are on track to being her biggest singles with the GP since IASF...without promo. It really boils down to how commercially palatable the music is to the masses. I love that our girl doesn't always play to those rules, but after not doing it for a decade, I'm ready to play ball again. It's a really smart way to level up her streaming clout and will see her leave us on a high note heading into her next era (outside of this possible trilogy). What use is promo when your music is not available to consume Like for example, hold up spent a whole week at no.2 on itunes in the UK but peaked at 11 on the charts because streaming was by that point the dominant consumption of music. She's never had a lack of commercially viable songs, she's just had a lack of strategy/caring when it comes to the singles. Just to put a few things into perspective. _Hold Up was globally the more popular song but she puhsed Sorry instead (ultimately irrelevant because both would flop without streaming, but Sorry at least had its video up _She had a viral moment with the flawless remix but kept it on her website for 6months _Formation (we already know the deal) _She had quality, fan favourite songs with huge hit makers like Weekend/Drake and done nothing with them. _Despite Drunk In Love establishing itself as a hit, she only release Partition as a single in the US and only Urban radio despite DIL proving an appetite for an edgier Bey. The fact that it's only 100m behind DIL shows you that it could been big. _She sent Pretty Hurts to Urban radio _She could of had a viral moment with the CIL remix if she released it alongside the 50 shades of gray trailer. It's not so much about promotion, but just doing logical things, adapting to whats happening on the ground and see where you music is taking off. Both ST/Lem are filled with commercially viable songs. Sometimes it's legit hard to predict what will/won't smash (XO for example), but she really thought she was above single success. After her back to back flops on 4.
Otter Posted October 11, 2022 Posted October 11, 2022 After XO flopped she should of served pop radio this. A perfect mix of her urban/pop audiences and even some country tinges in the post chorus. DIL Jealous Partition Mine Crazy In Love Remix /Haunted Flawless remix The material
bijonse Posted October 11, 2022 Posted October 11, 2022 58 minutes ago, Otter said: After XO flopped she should of served pop radio this. A perfect mix of her urban/pop audiences and even some country tinges in the post chorus. DIL Jealous Partition Mine Crazy In Love Remix /Haunted Flawless remix The material !!!! I ALWAYS SAID JEALOUS SHOULDVE BEEN A SINGLE. This, blow, mine and the flawless remix
Otter Posted October 11, 2022 Posted October 11, 2022 4 minutes ago, bijonse said: !!!! I ALWAYS SAID JEALOUS SHOULDVE BEEN A SINGLE. This, blow, mine and the flawless remix I heard Blow in a gay club randomly during Pride this year and whew! It was never my go to but I was converted Again she has never been in lack hit worthy material. ST is one off those albums that deserved 8 singles and 2 year long era. The platinum edition was kind of a mess and wasted opportunity but anyway...
Devin Posted October 11, 2022 Posted October 11, 2022 10 minutes ago, Otter said: Again she has never been in lack hit worthy material. ST is one off those albums that deserved 8 singles and 2 year long era. The platinum edition was kind of a mess and wasted opportunity but anyway... This why I could barely entertain trolls that say Bey can’t get a hit. The material be hit worthy she just don’t care.
PrudenceHCharmed Posted October 11, 2022 Posted October 11, 2022 Imagine listening to Haunted and Jealous on the radio. That would introduce a new kind of Beyoncé which the GP had never heard before. It would be very very different from the Say My Name/Irreplaceable and Single Ladies Beyoncé. The MV is still her best MV to date imo.
PrudenceHCharmed Posted October 11, 2022 Posted October 11, 2022 Her peers are releasing ten/twenty years anniversary of their respective albums and she did absolutely nothing even though all of them are legendary except for an appreciation post for Lemonade's fifth year anniversary (I guess it was her fav album?)No wonder her catalogue streams are bad jkjk I'm glad that she didn't live in the past and
MrPiggyMoka Posted October 11, 2022 Posted October 11, 2022 16 hours ago, Blue Rose said: I got some brand new tea actually… Girl share it, don't leave us hanging like that
loudliyah Posted October 11, 2022 Posted October 11, 2022 Anyone else think Countdown should've been the lead for 4? Even Love On Top or I Care would've been really good choices
Devin Posted October 11, 2022 Posted October 11, 2022 21 minutes ago, loudliyah said: Anyone else think Countdown should've been the lead for 4? Even Love On Top or I Care would've been really good choices Tbh I would’ve been cool with just: 1. Love On Top 2. Countdown 3. RTW or Best Thing I Never Had (hate it but she loves to push a random ballad) 4. End of Time the rest were moreso fan favorites.
trainsskyscrapers Posted October 11, 2022 Posted October 11, 2022 35 minutes ago, loudliyah said: Anyone else think Countdown should've been the lead for 4? Even Love On Top or I Care would've been really good choices 1. Countdown (Kooky, but extremely approachable) 2. Love On Top (Urban/UAC/AC/Rhy) / RTW (Pop/Dance/Rhy) 3. End Of Time (Album Release Single) 4. Best Thing I Never Had 5. Schoolin Life 6. I Was Here (Safe final single) Promo Singles: - Party - instant grat track (sent to UAC a month before album and organic growth from there) - Rather Die Young (1 week before album - live performance - B and a symphony orchestra) Exclusive Radio Singles fit in whenever a single is on its decline: - I Care (UAC) - I Miss You (Urban) - Dance For You (Urban/UAC)
Otter Posted October 11, 2022 Posted October 11, 2022 The way I would trade every single one of her slow Jams sans Dance for you in order to hear this in full
trainsskyscrapers Posted October 11, 2022 Posted October 11, 2022 "Make Me Say It Again, Girl" is a bona-fide R&B HIT! Adult R&B Airplay - #1 (9wks*) R&B Digital Songs - #4 (2wks*) R&B/Hip-Hop Airplay - #9 (9wks*) Hot R&B Songs - #23 (2wks*) *Weeks On Chart
Shelter Posted October 11, 2022 Posted October 11, 2022 Can she hurry up with the tour announcement. Taylor is announcing hers in Nov Adele will probably too.
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