Planet Mars Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 The way I woke up to be double tagged and double dragged in this base Clearly this base is in shambles and we all know why. Even Hive twitter is starting to tween increasingly about the Lack of visuals. We're all justifiably frustrated, and thats just tea.
Devin Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, Destiny said: So where are the visuals? If they don’t come this weekend… sigh Not you still having some hope.
Keith Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 A great song but not a hit. Hits get radio play.
Lose My Breath Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, ToraeGilt said: She got a hit on her hands I fear Sis, don't get your hopes up, it only lets you down later
giRLbye. Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 i want the visuals released at this point b/c once thats out the way...i want to see what the next complaint will be
Keith Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 11 minutes ago, Destiny said: So where are the visuals? If they don’t come this weekend… sigh They'll be here in a year.
Devin Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 7 minutes ago, Planet Mars said: The way I woke up to be double tagged and double dragged in this base Clearly this base is in shambles and we all know why. Even Hive twitter is starting to tween increasingly about the Lack of visuals. We're all justifiably frustrated, and thats just tea. Come join the party. 5 hours ago, *-ChriZ-* said: To the users like @ToraeGilt: Imho the worst type of users. You never post ANYTHING in the base and had the audacity to come for me and only post like 1-2 posts where you complain about true fans like me voicing their opinions? I beg your pardon. 2 hours ago, Devin said: To the users like @Armani? @Planet Mars: Imho the worst type of users. You never post ANYTHING in the base and had the audacity to come for my taste and only post like 1-2 posts where you complain about true fans like me voicing their great taste? I beg your pardon.
Mitsouko Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 6 minutes ago, giRLbye. said: i want the visuals released at this point b/c once thats out the way...i want to see what the next complaint will be After the music videos, there will be at least one valid complaint left: no performances outside of the tour. It looks like she'll only be performing for Money Hive from now on. Broke Hive can watch that old ****.
giRLbye. Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 i'd rather see live performances than videos that i'm only going to watch once
Lose My Breath Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 14 minutes ago, giRLbye. said: i want the visuals released at this point b/c once thats out the way...i want to see what the next complaint will be You really think this has been a good rollout worthy of no complaints?
Lovett Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 19 minutes ago, ToraeGilt said: She got a hit on her hands I fear This UK placement is wrong. It's at #66 on UK Apple Music atm.
giRLbye. Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Lose My Breath said: You really think this has been a good rollout worthy of no complaints? No. But the difference is... I had no expectations of a good roll-out. Why? There hasn't been one in 10 years. The satisfaction towards ST & Lem eras are revisionist history...b/c ppl complained badly about those eras in their present time too. I've read all her recent magazine interviews, I read her birthday letter, I watched LIBAD....this era is not surprising to me. I love artists that are older than Beyonce...I've seen how this phase of their career plays out already. I'm not on edge...the writing was on the wall for those who really paid attention.
Devin Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 I think what also makes this era frustrating is there’s too many songs that have potential to be commercial hits to add to her collection.
CoralBlue Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Destiny said: So where are the visuals? If they don’t come this weekend… sigh According to the reddit post i've quoted yesterday some of the hive now think they might get released next Friday, Sept. 23 since this will be the end of virgo season. Allegedly. Edited September 14, 2022 by CoralBlue
ShouldersSideways Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 10 minutes ago, Devin said: I think what also makes this era frustrating is there’s too many songs that have potential to be commercial hits to add to her collection. What's different from any other era? Mine, Hold Up, Find Your Way Back, Blow, All Night She doesn't care and Columbia seems to have come to terms with it too
Bey Admired Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 The way she is determined to push herself into has-been and legacy-act territory is weird but it’s her choice ultimately. She could still be dominating if she just did a proper rollout but I’m not even mad about it anymore.
Bey Admired Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 6 hours ago, *-ChriZ-* said: The negativiTEA in person is back, ******* I would like to take the opportunity of my return to adress a few things here and there and then keep it moving: First of all, I wanna express my deepest disappointed regarding members in the base reporting things that are being said by FELLOW Hive members such as me. This is SUCH a low blow and pretty much confirms my theory on some of y'all: You simply don't have any friends. It's evident. If you had friends, you'd know that reporting on people in the base is a no-go, no matter their outrage. It's been known that I like to have my moment on a few occasions, but to report me takes a special type of person. I just wanna say I know who it was so better be aware - YOU are on my watch list. As the Queen herself once said Now I want to dedicate my thoughts on some of y'all over the course of my absence: @sillycilla@G'Day@carameldelight@satellites.™@jane@Shelter@BnPac Thanks for seeing things for what they are and spilling the TEA. You are RIGHT with everything you say and point out when it comes to the mess of this era and rollout. I appreciate your comments and I want to thank you for keeping the spirit of negativity ALIVE while I was gone. @MrLovett@giRLbye.@bijonse I seriously wonder if you get paid by Beyonce. You post updates on album tracks (only positive ones tho because anytime the stats drop, you just don't post them lol) and want to justify EVERY action by Bey. It's literally mindblowing. In my heart I really admire that form of standom. It's borderline crazy, but to each their own. To the users like @ToraeGilt: Imho the worst type of users. You never post ANYTHING in the base and had the audacity to come for me and only post like 1-2 posts where you complain about true fans like me voicing their opinions? I beg your pardon. Then lastly we have the dreamers aka @Cbreezy, @Planet Mars and @Lose My Breath: You envision a turning point in this mess of a rollout, strongly believe in Beyonce being this "hungry" artist trying to push things around, you believe in Grammys and her getting her fair due, you believe in the revival of streaming numbers due to the acts. It's really cute, but all I can say to this is You are so so delusional and are incapable of seeing things for what they are - the era is done. At one point, the videos will come, and thats it. No second single, no crazy rollout, it's gonna be exactly the same for act 2 and act 3 minus the videos. Just the music. So get used to it. The moment it drops, the era is over. Also no interviews or performances. Maybe a documentary 3 years later. And lastly, I want to state that I truly believe that I love Beyonce as a musician, but I actually don't think I like her anymore. I think, to be quite frank, there is not a lot of likeable qualities about her anymore. If we're being honest, giving an award speech with in envelope in gold is cringe, all interaction being based on a singular insta post that was pre-written. The only side we get to see is her doing billionaire stuff with her millionaire friends. This is NOT the Beyonce we witnessed during 4, the ambitious one, the one EXUDING fire and passion. She's a great musician and I will always live for her, but her personality is SO off-putting. I really think I don't like her. She's a self-indulged and money-hungry woman that is afraid of leaving her husband alone for a while due to the damage his infidelity has caused her. Sure, she's for sure a loving mother (but even that I don't know), but all the things I, as a true fan, get to see are these. That's Beyonce in 2022 or at least the image she lets us see. That's it. Happy next weeks/months till Act 2 comes and goes. xoxo You are a legend and I agree. I was going to say something alone those lines yesterday but deleted it because I’m a coward. But it’s true, I really don’t think I like Bey as a person from what I know about her at this point. She’s a supreme musician and artist, and for that I’ll always have love for her. But that’s all she is to me at this point. I’m not invested in her personally because I see her as a cash-grabbing ambitious individual who does not really care about her fans and has no regard for what makes an era great for us. It’s all about her. The games she plays are all for her own personal enjoyment, because she surely can’t think that it’s exciting or enjoyable for the fans. I fell in love with Bey because I was captivated by how someone with so much charisma and exuding such confidence could be so genuinely humble and human. She’s really not that person anymore I’m afraid to say.
carameldelight Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 28 minutes ago, Devin said: I think what also makes this era frustrating is there’s too many songs that have potential to be commercial hits to add to her collection. That part!
BnPac Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 (edited) 11 hours ago, Blue Rose said: Charts success is always a nice bonus but I don’t think that’s the core of people frustration especially given that we have experienced countless flops. !!! The way some here talk you would think Bey was pushing Adele's pure or Taylor Swift's pure and streaming numbers. If someone wants to stan numbers there are better artists to pick tqfh. And let's not get it twisted, charts success IS important. That's the reason why Beyoncé can pack stadiums, the reason why they call her the Queen and the reason why she can hold Hollywood parties and 41st birthday parties and there are more celebs than all events in the year. The reason why she can sell over price items like Ivy Park and the reason why Tiffany is paying her so much money to pose with their jewelry. Sade is certainly not throwing lavish Hollywood parties, she's not taking money from huge white corporations. What I hate the most about this base is how people turn their noses at people wanting charts success. Not caring about charts makes you neither special, nor interesting nor deep and certainly not a better fan. There is nothing wrong with wanting your fave to succeed. This thread was busy as hell when she reached #1 on all those charts and the people who like to point out charts don't matter were the first to celebrate with corny phrases like "I don't care about charts but it sure feels good". If something sure makes you feel good or elated, you care! Edited September 14, 2022 by BnPac
carameldelight Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 6 hours ago, *-ChriZ-* said: The negativiTEA in person is back, ******* I would like to take the opportunity of my return to adress a few things here and there and then keep it moving: First of all, I wanna express my deepest disappointed regarding members in the base reporting things that are being said by FELLOW Hive members such as me. This is SUCH a low blow and pretty much confirms my theory on some of y'all: You simply don't have any friends. It's evident. If you had friends, you'd know that reporting on people in the base is a no-go, no matter their outrage. It's been known that I like to have my moment on a few occasions, but to report me takes a special type of person. I just wanna say I know who it was so better be aware - YOU are on my watch list. As the Queen herself once said Now I want to dedicate my thoughts on some of y'all over the course of my absence: @sillycilla@G'Day@carameldelight@satellites.™@jane@Shelter@BnPac Thanks for seeing things for what they are and spilling the TEA. You are RIGHT with everything you say and point out when it comes to the mess of this era and rollout. I appreciate your comments and I want to thank you for keeping the spirit of negativity ALIVE while I was gone. @MrLovett@giRLbye.@bijonse I seriously wonder if you get paid by Beyonce. You post updates on album tracks (only positive ones tho because anytime the stats drop, you just don't post them lol) and want to justify EVERY action by Bey. It's literally mindblowing. In my heart I really admire that form of standom. It's borderline crazy, but to each their own. To the users like @ToraeGilt: Imho the worst type of users. You never post ANYTHING in the base and had the audacity to come for me and only post like 1-2 posts where you complain about true fans like me voicing their opinions? I beg your pardon. Then lastly we have the dreamers aka @Cbreezy, @Planet Mars and @Lose My Breath: You envision a turning point in this mess of a rollout, strongly believe in Beyonce being this "hungry" artist trying to push things around, you believe in Grammys and her getting her fair due, you believe in the revival of streaming numbers due to the acts. It's really cute, but all I can say to this is You are so so delusional and are incapable of seeing things for what they are - the era is done. At one point, the videos will come, and thats it. No second single, no crazy rollout, it's gonna be exactly the same for act 2 and act 3 minus the videos. Just the music. So get used to it. The moment it drops, the era is over. Also no interviews or performances. Maybe a documentary 3 years later. And lastly, I want to state that I truly believe that I love Beyonce as a musician, but I actually don't think I like her anymore. I think, to be quite frank, there is not a lot of likeable qualities about her anymore. If we're being honest, giving an award speech with in envelope in gold is cringe, all interaction being based on a singular insta post that was pre-written. The only side we get to see is her doing billionaire stuff with her millionaire friends. This is NOT the Beyonce we witnessed during 4, the ambitious one, the one EXUDING fire and passion. She's a great musician and I will always live for her, but her personality is SO off-putting. I really think I don't like her. She's a self-indulged and money-hungry woman that is afraid of leaving her husband alone for a while due to the damage his infidelity has caused her. Sure, she's for sure a loving mother (but even that I don't know), but all the things I, as a true fan, get to see are these. That's Beyonce in 2022 or at least the image she lets us see. That's it. Happy next weeks/months till Act 2 comes and goes. xoxo Thanks for the shoutout I honestly just stopped caring about the era and haven't paid attention in the last couple of weeks, didn't even care about her bday party. Beyonce has decided she wants to be an influencer and cater to other wealthy people. She knows that fans will still buy whatever she puts out so it's not like it matters to her. She's giving very much, " let them eat cake" vibes. I'm kind of turned off as well, not going to lie. No one is asking her to be like Nicki, obsessed with her stans and have an unhealthy relationship with the internet. However I think someone like Taylor Swift has mastered a healthy balance. Mariah Carey already has #18 number ones and she still promotes and engages. That is the bare minimum.
Cbreezy Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 It's not a "bad" era...yet IMO. A confusing era. A frustrating era. But not a bad one. Yet. To bypass a confirmation of a three-act project, a multi-week #1 single, a #1 album with big opening week sales, GP love, and songs that are growing organically to moan about visuals we KNOW are coming is really odd to me. Several things can be true at once, but it feels like the complainers are exclusively focussing on the bad. The Grammy deadline is my yardstick, though. If she lets that September 30th date lapse with no visuals (given how much of a shoo-in she is for the Visual Media category), then we're in OFFICIALLY the dangerzone. And even then, it may be October to align with the delayed vinyl release. It really just is what it is at this point. No amount daily whining will make a difference.
BnPac Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 Anyway I am still optimistic that the era hasn't started yet and Giselle will kick it off eventually.
carameldelight Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Bey Admired said: You are a legend and I agree. I was going to say something alone those lines yesterday but deleted it because I’m a coward. But it’s true, I really don’t think I like Bey as a person from what I know about her at this point. She’s a supreme musician and artist, and for that I’ll always have love for her. But that’s all she is to me at this point. I’m not invested in her personally because I see her as a cash-grabbing ambitious individual who does not really care about her fans and has no regard for what makes an era great for us. It’s all about her. The games she plays are all for her own personal enjoyment, because she surely can’t think that it’s exciting or enjoyable for the fans. I fell in love with Bey because I was captivated by how someone with so much charisma and exuding such confidence could be so genuinely humble and human. She’s really not that person anymore I’m afraid to say. It's the influence of Sean " Calling me a capitalist is the equivalent of calling me a N-word" Carter. I still can't believe he said that. Anyways, I have heard a lot of Renaissance during fashion week. Edited September 14, 2022 by carameldelight
giRLbye. Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 8 minutes ago, BnPac said: !!! The way some here talk you would think Bey was pushing Adele's pure or Taylor Swift's pure and streaming numbers. If someone wants to stan numbers there are better artists to pick tqfh. And let's not get it twisted, charts success IS important. That's the reason why Beyoncé can pack stadiums, the reason why they call her the Queen and the reason why she can hold Hollywood parties and 41st birthday parties and there are more celebs than all events in the year. The reason why she can sell over price items like Ivy Park and the reason why Tiffany is paying her so much money to pose with their jewelry. Sade is certainly not throwing lavish Hollywood parties, she's not taking money for huge white corporations. What I hate the most about this base is how people turn their noses at people wanting charts success. Not caring about charts doesn't make you neither special, nor interesting nor deep and certainly not a better fan. There is nothing wrong with wanting your fave to succeed. This thread was busy as hell when she reached #1 on all those charts and the people who like to point out charts don't matter were the first to celebrate with corny phrases like "I don't care about charts but it sure feels good". If something sure makes you feel good or elated, you care! i think the point is & where the divide comes from is why do ya'll care so much more than the artist whose music & career this is?? Beyonce and Parkwood see the internal data...they see what the streams are, what radio looks like, the daily album sales. all this anxiety ya'll have right now...they OBVIOUSLY don't share those anxious feelings or else this era would be looking different right now. So why do ya'll care more than the artist?
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