simmnfierzig Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 15 minutes ago, Jeiboy said: Why is BB going backwards? Why increase sales influence and lower streaming.... Cause they dont want a Hot 100 that is 80% streaming. Understandable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexanderao Posted January 31, 2017 Author Share Posted January 31, 2017 Goosebumps 71-51 and Location 70-64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhreshDiamond Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 7 hours ago, Porygon2z said: So, in this radio issue. How the hell do they know someone didn't change the station? If they play, let's say, a Beyoncé song and I change stations real quick, how do they know I did it and they aren't counting my % of their supposed audience for their chart? What if 90% of their audience changed the station and went back to it 5 mins later when they realized "If U Seek Amy" was playing? How do they know they lost most of their audience while playing certain song? It's not like 99% of those who changed station will call the radio station and say "girl, don't play that thing again". And they won't call to suggest a song neither. I have friends working for radio stations and they just choose whatever they like, adding unfair weight to the songs they say it's popular. I'd also like to this actually Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexanderao Posted January 31, 2017 Author Share Posted January 31, 2017 Well, they calculate audience numbers using estimates of how many people are listening to a station at a given time of a day. Every station has to do some marketing research with their city or town and come up with quality estimates regarding those numbers. Say that for one city that approximately 0.6M people are listening to a pop station at 5pm on a Wednesday. Then, if a song gets played at that time, it's awarded 0.6M AI. They're not actually tracking every listener. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QueenofCopyPaste Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 28 minutes ago, simmnfierzig said: Cause they dont want a Hot 100 that is 80% streaming. Understandable Mehhhh...sales are dying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhreshDiamond Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 25 minutes ago, alexanderao said: Well, they calculate audience numbers using estimates of how many people are listening to a station at a given time of a day. Every station has to do some marketing research with their city or town and come up with quality estimates regarding those numbers. Say that for one city that approximately 0.6M people are listening to a pop station at 5pm on a Wednesday. Then, if a song gets played at that time, it's awarded 0.6M AI. They're not actually tracking every listener. makes sense and seems fair, I guess the people switch out from a song is negated by people switching into a song Rise LOTB rise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattyboy Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 So it Pandora streams are now included, does this mean newer songs are going to have a harder time debuting in the top 10/#1 because they take a while to be added to Pandora playlists? I feel like Ed would've been blocked if it would've happened that week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umich Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 2008 36. Shontelle - T-Shirt 2017 37. Migos - T-Shirt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattyboy Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 (edited) Also if they increase sales perhaps Taylor and Zayn have a shot at #1 afterall. Edited January 31, 2017 by Mattyboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simmnfierzig Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 6 minutes ago, Mattyboy said: So it Pandora streams are now included, does this mean newer songs are going to have a harder time debuting in the top 10/#1 because they take a while to be added to Pandora playlists? I feel like Ed would've been blocked if it would've happened that week. Meh. I don't know about that Just now, Mattyboy said: Also if they increase sales perhaps Taylor and Zayn have a shot at #1 afterall. Yeah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 1 hour ago, Mattyboy said: Also if they increase sales perhaps Taylor and Zayn have a shot at #1 afterall. the premier of the movie is in 2 weeks, to me thats big opportunity for them to be number 1, that week can be huge for them in streaming and sales Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridayteenage Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Taylor Her power Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idontcareaboutyou Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 I hope they go to the premiere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roman19911 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Any prediction for Love on the Brain next week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATRL Moderator Porygon2z Posted January 31, 2017 ATRL Moderator Share Posted January 31, 2017 3 hours ago, alexanderao said: Well, they calculate audience numbers using estimates of how many people are listening to a station at a given time of a day. Every station has to do some marketing research with their city or town and come up with quality estimates regarding those numbers. Say that for one city that approximately 0.6M people are listening to a pop station at 5pm on a Wednesday. Then, if a song gets played at that time, it's awarded 0.6M AI. They're not actually tracking every listener. Exactly my point. In Sales and Streaming you can guess who actually bother to search for a song, or click on them, or play a streaming list and don't skip songs. In Airplay you don't even know if someone was actually listening, what if everyone in the world was actually turning off their radio everytime Dark Horse was playing? Yet radio said millions were listening? Radio is NOT a factor to track the hottest songs out there. If they decide to play Million Reasons non-stop they will do it and increase its chart position when actually nobody checks for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simmnfierzig Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Early predictions. Don't feel super confident yet with my new formula 1 Shape Of You 518 (+1) 2 Bad And Boujee 468 (-1) 3 I Don't Wanna Live Forever 458 (+2) 4 Bad Things 301 (=) 5 Don't Wanna Know 266 (+2) 6 Closer 264 (-3) 7 Black Beatles 262 (-1) 8 Scars To Your Beautiful 251 (+2) 9 Starboy 249 (-1) 10 Fake Love 244 (-1) 11 Paris 238 (+2) 12 24k Magic 236 (-1) 13 Love On The Brain 231 (+1) 14 Side To Side 225 (-2) 15 Bounce Back 212 (=) 16 Let Me Love You 199 (=) 17 I Feel It Coming 194 (+1) 18 All Time Low 176 (+1) 19 Caroline 170 (-2) 20 Mercy 159 (+1) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Safe&Sound Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Closer And yas, IDWLF getting new peak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianc33710 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 11 minutes ago, simmnfierzig said: Early predictions. Don't feel super confident yet with my new formula 1 Shape Of You 518 (+1) 2 Bad And Boujee 468 (-1) 3 I Don't Wanna Live Forever 458 (+2) 4 Bad Things 301 (=) 5 Don't Wanna Know 266 (+2) 6 Closer 264 (-3) 7 Black Beatles 262 (-1) 8 Scars To Your Beautiful 251 (+2) 9 Starboy 249 (-1) 10 Fake Love 244 (-1) 11 Paris 238 (+2) 12 24k Magic 236 (-1) 13 Love On The Brain 231 (+1) 14 Side To Side 225 (-2) 15 Bounce Back 212 (=) 16 Let Me Love You 199 (=) 17 I Feel It Coming 194 (+1) 18 All Time Low 176 (+1) 19 Caroline 170 (-2) 20 Mercy 159 (+1) That would stop Closer one week from tying UFs and HDILs 25 week Top 5 record, but Closer could easily slip back in, or stay. I don't want Closer to break UFs record though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chainsmoker Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 45 minutes ago, simmnfierzig said: Early predictions. Don't feel super confident yet with my new formula 1 Shape Of You 518 (+1) 2 Bad And Boujee 468 (-1) 3 I Don't Wanna Live Forever 458 (+2) 4 Bad Things 301 (=) 5 Don't Wanna Know 266 (+2) 6 Closer 264 (-3) 7 Black Beatles 262 (-1) 8 Scars To Your Beautiful 251 (+2) 9 Starboy 249 (-1) 10 Fake Love 244 (-1) 11 Paris 238 (+2) 12 24k Magic 236 (-1) 13 Love On The Brain 231 (+1) 14 Side To Side 225 (-2) 15 Bounce Back 212 (=) 16 Let Me Love You 199 (=) 17 I Feel It Coming 194 (+1) 18 All Time Low 176 (+1) 19 Caroline 170 (-2) 20 Mercy 159 (+1) So that would become M5's 9th Top 5 hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QueenofCopyPaste Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 42 minutes ago, simmnfierzig said: Early predictions. Don't feel super confident yet with my new formula 1 Shape Of You 518 (+1) 2 Bad And Boujee 468 (-1) 3 I Don't Wanna Live Forever 458 (+2) 4 Bad Things 301 (=) 5 Don't Wanna Know 266 (+2) 6 Closer 264 (-3) 7 Black Beatles 262 (-1) 8 Scars To Your Beautiful 251 (+2) 9 Starboy 249 (-1) 10 Fake Love 244 (-1) 11 Paris 238 (+2) 12 24k Magic 236 (-1) 13 Love On The Brain 231 (+1) 14 Side To Side 225 (-2) 15 Bounce Back 212 (=) 16 Let Me Love You 199 (=) 17 I Feel It Coming 194 (+1) 18 All Time Low 176 (+1) 19 Caroline 170 (-2) 20 Mercy 159 (+1) Shape of You is sure to be #1??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hector Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 The BuzzAngle/Hits Daily Double Streaming Songs chart doesn't help that much anymore since they still don't include SoundCloud & Pandora in their tabulations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianc33710 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 5 minutes ago, Hector said: The BuzzAngle/Hits Daily Double Streaming Songs chart doesn't help that much anymore since they still don't include SoundCloud & Pandora in their tabulations. I'm sure BA & HDD will work on getting access to those numbers. They don't want to be left behind by BB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roman19911 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Looking at predictions, LOTB top 10 should happen, right? Seeing that multiple songs above it are falling hard now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simmnfierzig Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 17 minutes ago, Jeiboy said: Shape of You is sure to be #1??? I would be very surprised if it's not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianc33710 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 9 hours ago, simmnfierzig said: With IDWLF at #5 we already know that sales influence was increased. I think the jumps made by Country songs this week also shows BB boosted the strength of sales. As Simm said, BB doesn't want an 80% streaming chart. Having one metric that's too dominant skews the H 100's accuracy. Also, not every genre streams as well as Pop/Rhythmic/Urban. Neglecting to keep sales at a certain proportion of the H 100 means the formats, some of which are still "popular" but haven't embraced streaming as quickly, also keeps the H 100 from being too dominated by songs succeeding at just one component from taking over the chart. Considering some streaming songs receive neither airplay nor sales support, so adjusting the metrics to ensure the success of well-rounded singles over those that depend too much on just one component of popularity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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