teamlor Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 The premium tier of Pandora now allows unlimited skips (at least on the mobile app and the windows/mac app, not for web-based yet), so that might be why Billboard decided to finally include it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Shameless v2 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 5 hours ago, rowlet said: i thought Black Beatles and Bad & Boujee were too though. former had the mannequin challenge and latter had the "rain drop, drop top" meme Hmm yeah I guess. Those two ended up catching on in sales and on demand streaming. Plus crossing over to T40. I'm just more hesitant to dub them that so explicitly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truthteller Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 (edited) the songs on radio and streaming platform are always sluggish. Edited January 31, 2017 by truthteller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridayteenage Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 (edited) pandora? huh? So Starving could have been a T10 hit after all? I mean, its on-demand and sales certainly were more impressive than scars to your beautiful which is at #25 in sales and streaming even with pandora's help. Edited January 31, 2017 by fridayteenage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowino Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Closer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridayteenage Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Songs with the most weeks in the Country Digital T2 since the beginning of 2015, and their H100 peaks, as of last week: 23 Die a Happy Man - #21 21 Girl Crush - #18 17 Blue Ain't Your Color - #2417 HOLY - #14 16 Take Your Time - #20 12 Kick the Dust Up - #2611 Setting the World on Fire - #299 Humble and Kind - #30 8 Better Man - #41 8 Break Up in a Small Town - #29 So it's been a struggle even for big country hits to go T20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianc33710 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Regarding Closer vs. Uptown Funk: First, Closer's 26 week run: 9-6-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-2-2-2-3-3-3-3-4-3-5-4-3 Closer ties UF's T 3 record this week, but probably won't break it. However, Closer could(should) tie UF and How Do I Live's 25 week Top 5 record next week. I don't know what happens beyond that. I want Closer to get to 29 weeks, maybe 30 in the Top 10, but it's just not big enough of a song to break any of UF's records. Closer IS indeed bigger than UF at Top 40/Pop, and that's the predominant radio format for most ATRL members. Maybe that's why Closer seems so big to some of you, whereas UF was significantly bigger and more versatile at other formats. Nothing against Closer, and nothing against One Sweet Day, as I like both songs. However, Closer isn't as big as UF, just like Macarena finished ahead of OSD on the 1996 Hot 100. OSD benefitted from great timing that kept it on top for 16 weeks. Closer is in many ways a mini UF, but far from a full-fledged UF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamvladd Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Pandora shouldn't count as streams it's it's an Internet Radio Service, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexanderao Posted January 31, 2017 Author Share Posted January 31, 2017 1 minute ago, iamvladd said: Pandora shouldn't count as streams it's it's an Internet Radio Service, imo. Billboard already weighs on-demand streams and programmed streams differently, so one Pandora stream (an example of the latter) should have a lesser influence than one Spotify or Apple Music stream (examples of the former). I think it is a good move to include Pandora data, though, as there are definitely many people that use it as their primary way of consuming music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamvladd Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, alexanderao said: Billboard already weighs on-demand streams and programmed streams differently, so one Pandora stream (an example of the latter) should have a lesser influence than one Spotify or Apple Music stream (examples of the former). I think it is a good move to include Pandora data, though, as there are definitely many people that use it as their primary way of consuming music. Oh ok. I didn't read the part about them being weighted differently; so it's not that bad then. I'm not saying that Pandora shouldn't be added, b/c a good number of ppl use it everyday to listen to music, but it feels kind of funny counting it towards streams lol. Edited January 31, 2017 by iamvladd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridayteenage Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Positions that push us back to 2005: A #4 seller with 42k; 2006's lowest was 45k. A #5 seller with 40k; 2006's lowest was 42k. A #6 seller with max 40k; 2006's lowest was also 42k. Starboy last year already gave us a 2005-level #2 seller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATRL Moderator Porygon2z Posted January 31, 2017 ATRL Moderator Share Posted January 31, 2017 So, in this radio issue. How the hell do they know someone didn't change the station? If they play, let's say, a Beyoncé song and I change stations real quick, how do they know I did it and they aren't counting my % of their supposed audience for their chart? What if 90% of their audience changed the station and went back to it 5 mins later when they realized "If U Seek Amy" was playing? How do they know they lost most of their audience while playing certain song? It's not like 99% of those who changed station will call the radio station and say "girl, don't play that thing again". And they won't call to suggest a song neither. I have friends working for radio stations and they just choose whatever they like, adding unfair weight to the songs they say it's popular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianc33710 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 The best way to determine how BB adjusted the metrics this week is to look at how Can't Stop The Feeling moves up or down later today on the Hot 100. Feeling always sold well, and had great airplay. However, it continuously underperformed with streaming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheena Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 (edited) Closer! Sad it didnt break Mariahs record. Edited January 31, 2017 by Sheena Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iHype. Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 1 hour ago, fridayteenage said: Positions that push us back to 2005: A #4 seller with 42k; 2006's lowest was 45k. A #5 seller with 40k; 2006's lowest was 42k. A #6 seller with max 40k; 2006's lowest was also 42k. Starboy last year already gave us a 2005-level #2 seller. How unfortunate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sombre Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Wait so after MONTHS of power rotation, Alessia only just got a Top10? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popmusic Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 I don't see anything wrong with implement Pandora into Hot 100 chart, using airplay either. Hot 100 is chart based on popularity, so it's ok. But RIAA certifications should be based on pure revenue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simmnfierzig Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 2 hours ago, brianc33616 said: The best way to determine how BB adjusted the metrics this week is to look at how Can't Stop The Feeling moves up or down later today on the Hot 100. Feeling always sold well, and had great airplay. However, it continuously underperformed with streaming. With IDWLF at #5 we already know that sales influence was increased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkboy Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 (edited) http://www.billboard.com/charts/hot-100/2017-02-11 23. CANT STOP THE FEELING! (+1) 32. Rockabye (+6) *new peak 52. Down (+47) *new peak 77. Despacito (+11) *new peak 82. That's What I Like (RE) Edited January 31, 2017 by Starkboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QueenofCopyPaste Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 3 hours ago, TinkerbellClap said: Wait so after MONTHS of power rotation, Alessia only just got a Top10? Lead single "Here" peaked #5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umich Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 New chart http://www.billboard.com/charts/hot-100/2017-02-11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torturo Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 9 hours ago, NEZ said: people actually listen to the radio though. at least on the radio we have the power to request songs or change the station if we dont like what we here. thats how radio stations are able to continue to survive, by playing whats popular. there are pros and cons to everything. even sales. i feel like the younger generation are the ones buying music. i would hate if 100k teenagers dictated what the number one song was every week, especially when theyre more likely the ones to jump on trends or only buy a song because its popular. Yeah cause radios totally listen to what ppl request. if song isnt already meant to be played they wont play i Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simmnfierzig Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 35 minutes ago, Torturo said: Yeah cause radios totally listen to what ppl request. if song isnt already meant to be played they wont play i Radio has to listen to what people want to here. To a certain extend at least. Or else listeners will change the station. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QueenofCopyPaste Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Why is BB going backwards? Why increase sales influence and lower streaming.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umich Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 3 minutes ago, Jeiboy said: Why is BB going backwards? Why increase sales influence and lower streaming.... Racism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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