rate Rate Signup Thread

[MP2K]

13 hours ago, Graves said:

Also, we could wait a little bit for Sabrina to release her album and then throw her, Chappell, and Tinashe (stay with me now!) in for a TikTok Girl Summer rate.

 

or or or

 

Take Off: The Rising Stars of '24 - Chappell Roan, Sabrina Carpenter, Charli xcx

 

and the sequel rate

 

Failure to Launch: The Underdog Girls - Tate McRae, Tinashe, ...Kim Petras?

I think these for sure will generate buzz again.

 

Maybe we just do 1-2 blockbusters for the remaining summer into fall, then crank out some minors/indies to get back into regularly schedule?

[Suilen]

The winner of the first part of The Kumi Koda Singles Rate is TABOO.

 

The demand for the second part is here, so it'll probably happen later this year in November.

[Ace Reject]

On 8/20/2024 at 1:54 AM, MP2K said:

I think these for sure will generate buzz again.

 

Maybe we just do 1-2 blockbusters for the remaining summer into fall, then crank out some minors/indies to get back into regularly schedule?

 

On 8/19/2024 at 12:18 PM, Graves said:

Also, we could wait a little bit for Sabrina to release her album and then throw her, Chappell, and Tinashe (stay with me now!) in for a TikTok Girl Summer rate.

 

or or or

 

Take Off: The Rising Stars of '24 - Chappell Roan, Sabrina Carpenter, Charli xcx

 

and the sequel rate

 

Failure to Launch: The Underdog Girls - Tate McRae, Tinashe, ...Kim Petras?

No, I like this direction! Shorter (3-4 album) rates to get us back on board!

 

Okay, some ideas

 

THIS WAS POP 2023 Part 1

 

Miley Cyrus/Kylie Minogue/Jessie Ware/Troye Sivan

 

THIS WAS POP 2023 PART 2

 

Chappell Roan/Tate McRae/PinkPantheress/RAYE

 

@supaspaz still wants to do the BIG girls for THIS WAS 2024... but a part two (Charli, Tinashe, Sabrina, maybe Kacey?) could be started soon!

[supaspaz]

1 hour ago, Ace Reject said:

@supaspaz still wants to do the BIG girls for THIS WAS 2024... but a part two (Charli, Tinashe, Sabrina, maybe Kacey?) could be started soon!

And the big girls is Taylor vs. Beyoncé vs. Dua vs. Billie vs. Charli? Or did Ms. Peep get demoted?

[supaspaz]

Oh right, Ariana, not Charli. Truly forgot she released an album!

[Graves]

I would be willing to step up for one of those in a co-hosting role if somebody wants to share the load with me!

[prézli]

4 weeks left until the deadline of the Ashlee Simpson Discography Rate! Come and ragdoll!

 

 

[jacklovesyou1]

Honestly to get rates going again i think we just need to bring back iconic albums in rates and stop that weird rule that we can't use them once they are used or at least put a shorter cap on once used can't used within say 4 years or w/e

[Ace Reject]

On 9/5/2024 at 10:07 AM, jacklovesyou1 said:

Honestly to get rates going again i think we just need to bring back iconic albums in rates and stop that weird rule that we can't use them once they are used or at least put a shorter cap on once used can't used within say 4 years or w/e

I think we can do 2023/2024 albums before this!

[Saddy]

@Ace Reject I got this interesting idea. What do you think about me hosting a rate between Mariah, Madonna, Janet, Whitney, Celine (and I'm thinking about adding Cher too) debut albums?   I don't know if someone already hosted this in the past tbh

Edited September 10, 2024 by Saddy

[jacklovesyou1]

I still think it would be interesting to host a ex act rate in different rounds like Ari vs demi vs miley vs selena 

 

and one era at a time 1st album etc etc then each winning album will go to the finals where we would rate the winning albums combined together like for example bangerz vs when the sun goes down vs yours truly vs unbroken or whatever ... although the issue with this would most likely be if someone like ari wins every round it'll just turn into a discography rate so idk

 

if not i think we should try a main pop girl discography rate again soon the recent taylor one hosted by forever winter just reached 400 pages so people are still here for them .. who's the next most popular pop girl on this forum idek anymore 

 

but yeah looking forward to the future of the rates @Ace Reject

[prézli]

Less than 3 weeks left until the deadline

 

 

[Ace Reject]

On 9/8/2024 at 10:23 AM, Saddy said:

@Ace Reject I got this interesting idea. What do you think about me hosting a rate between Mariah, Madonna, Janet, Whitney, Celine (and I'm thinking about adding Cher too) debut albums?   I don't know if someone already hosted this in the past tbh

I feel like we did this before? But, you know what - why not?

 

But leave Cher out of it - she's in no way a contemporary. 

[Ace Reject]

18 hours ago, jacklovesyou1 said:

I still think it would be interesting to host a ex act rate in different rounds like Ari vs demi vs miley vs selena 

 

and one era at a time 1st album etc etc then each winning album will go to the finals where we would rate the winning albums combined together like for example bangerz vs when the sun goes down vs yours truly vs unbroken or whatever ... although the issue with this would most likely be if someone like ari wins every round it'll just turn into a discography rate so idk

 

if not i think we should try a main pop girl discography rate again soon the recent taylor one hosted by forever winter just reached 400 pages so people are still here for them .. who's the next most popular pop girl on this forum idek anymore 

 

but yeah looking forward to the future of the rates @Ace Reject

Yeah, but that's the problem - we need to break people OUT of just participating in rates about their faves, and reinvigorate peoples' curiosity about others!

[Saddy]

9 minutes ago, Ace Reject said:

I feel like we did this before? But, you know what - why not?

 

But leave Cher out of it - she's in no way a contemporary. 

Okay, I'll do it after I finish with Aaliyah rate. Thank you 

[Saddy]

The winner is "One in a Million" 

 

[Saddy]

Here's The Holy Quinternity (Mimi, Madonna, Janet, Whitney and Celine) debut album rate 

 

[Into The Void]

On 8/19/2024 at 10:57 AM, Ace Reject said:

Thank you for the response! 

 

I totally get it - it can become untenable for some, and so many people don't want to try anything new!

 

And yet... just a glimpse of the 2023 albums that have not been rated:

 

Madison Beer

Chloe

Miley Cyrus

Ava Max

Tate McRae

Kylie Minogue 

Roisin Murphy 

Kim Petras

Pink

PinkPantheress 

Renee Rapp 

RAYE

Chappell Roan

Tinashe 

Troye Sivan

Jessie Ware

 

You can understand my frustration - that's an ASTOUNDING number of albums to go unrated! Some fall on the wrong side of transphobia (hi Roisin) or the wrong side of quality (Ava, Kim) - but, come on people! 

 

And yes you can do your Ayumi rate!

Ill gladly host a rate with some of these albums

 

I think

Tate McRae- Think Later

Troye Sivan -STGEO

Madison Beer- Silence Between Songs

 then 2 more maybe Kylie / Ava Miley

 

??

Edited September 16, 2024 by Into The Void

[prézli]

Less than 10 days left until the deadline of the Ashlee Simpson Discography Rate.

 

Join now and don't do it in another life.

 

 

[Ace Reject]

On 9/16/2024 at 10:29 AM, Into The Void said:

Ill gladly host a rate with some of these albums

 

I think

Tate McRae- Think Later

Troye Sivan -STGEO

Madison Beer- Silence Between Songs

 then 2 more maybe Kylie / Ava Miley

 

??

That to me does not sound like a winner of a lineup!

 

I'm so... confused on how to handle 2023 and 2024 albums! Calling all angels!

 

What I'm thinking is this:

 

This Was Pop 2023 Part 1: Kylie/Jessie/Troye/Chappell/Miley

TWP 23 Part 2: Tate/Madison/PinkPantheress... fill in the blank for the other one (or two).

 

As for 2024? @supaspaz would you be doing both TTPD and that anthology or whatever? 31 tracks plus all of Cowboy Carter... that's an ask in today's world!

[Graves]

Chappell belongs in a tier above the other folks in that rate. She's an it-girl and the others are has-been / niche fave. Beloved has-been, don't get me wrong, but still.

[Ewan Chaos]

Big artists like Miley & Chappell with those other artists in part 1 feels weird to me too imo. Feel like it should be Jessie-Kylie-Troye-Ava... if you HAVE to include her maybe Roisin but I just cannot with her TERF ass.

 

Then Miley-Chappell-Pink.... idk those are the only real "big" artists left from that list that make a decent listing. I guess Tate too, she had a smash and mini hit from her album. Maybe PP since she had a hit too.

 

2023 was just tough since it's hard to pair off all the albums in a way that makes sense since TW2023 was kinda a weird mix. Sounds like TW2024 will be weird too with the Taylor inclusion since I thought TW was meant to just be based on critic scores (not sales) but idk.

[Graves]

Miley can stay, she's definitely more of a Kylie tier act than a Chappell one

 

Honestly, call it unorthodox, but I still think Chappell belongs in a rate with the 2024 it girls. Chronology be damned, nobody was playing that album until this year anyway.

[Graves]

Thinking more on it, and this might be a hot take but... I think if we want rates to come back in a major way then we have to diversify a little bit more and part of that might involve us not pigeonholing certain albums away for This Was rates.

 

Like, brat is almost certainly going to be the most acclaimed album of the year, but it's also going to be the biggest culture-shifting album of the year too. To me it feels more at home next to Sabrina, Billie and Chappell than it ever would be next to Cowboy Carter. Put Bey out to pasture with her ol' contemporaries this year, lord knows we got enough of them to rate between her, Taylor, Katy and now Gaga.

 

 

 

EDIT:

 

Here's some blockbuster pop girl rates I've been thinking on for the '23/'24 season.

 

OLD GIRLS: Beyoncé / Taylor / Gagita / Nicki and/or Katy (pick your poison)

 

IT GIRLS: Charli / Sabrina / Billie / Chappell

 

UNDERRATED GIRLS: Tinashe / Tate / Megan / Normani(?)

 

The last one was just a last minute inclusion, would need more workshopping for sure.

 

As for miss Arianka... idk! She could probably slot into a couple of them. eternal sunshine didn't feel quite as culture dominating as the other new girls did tho. We could probably squeeze another rate out of her and Dua and some other "big but not colossal" albums from this year.

 

 

Edited September 24, 2024 by Graves

[Ace Reject]

1 hour ago, Graves said:

Chappell belongs in a tier above the other folks in that rate. She's an it-girl and the others are has-been / niche fave. Beloved has-been, don't get me wrong, but still.

 

1 hour ago, Ewan Chaos said:

Big artists like Miley & Chappell with those other artists in part 1 feels weird to me too imo. Feel like it should be Jessie-Kylie-Troye-Ava... if you HAVE to include her maybe Roisin but I just cannot with her TERF ass.

 

Then Miley-Chappell-Pink.... idk those are the only real "big" artists left from that list that make a decent listing. I guess Tate too, she had a smash and mini hit from her album. Maybe PP since she had a hit too.

 

2023 was just tough since it's hard to pair off all the albums in a way that makes sense since TW2023 was kinda a weird mix. Sounds like TW2024 will be weird too with the Taylor inclusion since I thought TW was meant to just be based on critic scores (not sales) but idk.

 

1 hour ago, Graves said:

Miley can stay, she's definitely more of a Kylie tier act than a Chappell one

 

Honestly, call it unorthodox, but I still think Chappell belongs in a rate with the 2024 it girls. Chronology be damned, nobody was playing that album until this year anyway.

 

1 hour ago, Graves said:

Thinking more on it, and this might be a hot take but... I think if we want rates to come back in a major way then we have to diversify a little bit more and part of that might involve us not pigeonholing certain albums away for This Was rates.

 

Like, brat is almost certainly going to be the most acclaimed album of the year, but it's also going to be the biggest culture-shifting album of the year too. To me it feels more at home next to Sabrina, Billie and Chappell than it ever would be next to Cowboy Carter. Put Bey out to pasture with her ol' contemporaries this year, lord knows we got enough of them to rate between her, Taylor, Katy and now Gaga.

 

 

 

EDIT:

 

Here's some blockbuster pop girl rates I've been thinking on for the '23/'24 season.

 

OLD GIRLS: Beyoncé / Taylor / Gagita / Nicki and/or Katy (pick your poison)

 

IT GIRLS: Charli / Sabrina / Billie / Chappell

 

UNDERRATED GIRLS: Tinashe / Tate / Megan / Normani(?)

 

The last one was just a last minute inclusion, would need more workshopping for sure.

 

As for miss Arianka... idk! She could probably slot into a couple of them. eternal sunshine didn't feel quite as culture dominating as the other new girls did tho. We could probably squeeze another rate out of her and Dua and some other "big but not colossal" albums from this year.

 

 

No, I get it. I see exactly what you're saying! And Onika won't factor in - don't want to be gross!

 

Also, THIS WAS 2024 will be the mostly critically acclaimed albums - which, I think, will be very different from the pop girls du jour!

 

So, let's... come to an agreement! I like your idea, but let me break it up a bit!

 

2023

 

THIS WAS POP 1: Kylie/Jessie/Miley/Pink (and maybe TERF)

THIS WAS POP 2: Troye/Tate/PinkPantheress/Newjeans

VODKA SODA GIRLS: Ava/Kim/Bebe/Madison 

THIS WAS ALT POP: Lana/Kelela/Caroline/Sufjan

 

2024 (plus one)

 

Part 1 (likely hosted by @supaspaz): Bey/Taylor/Billie/Gaga

Part 2: Sabrina/Chappell/Charli/Tinashe (Breakthroughs and Unexpected Comebacks)

Part 3: Dua/Ariana/Kacey/Megan (Quiet Landings)

Part 4: Camila/Normani/Katy/add one or two other flops (Well, At Least You Tried) [ @touya kinomoto, it's your time to shine!] 

 

Makes sense? Just spitballing here