Despite what her haters say, clearly Katy has pull and appeal. It's also quite an intimate setting suggesting that these two have quite a strong friendship (relationship).
Hold these black and trans to the same standard as the cis white men. Their takes are wild and doesn't get pardoned or babied just because of who they are.
Also, not everyone needs to have a podcast and not everyone deserves to be a guest on a podcast.
I'm happy for her but let's not be delusional about the very heavy work that's being poured into. She doesn't even look like Lindsay anymore and it's not something being sober does. People have clocked about the deep face plane lift and botox but there's also nose job and many more.