Cardi B

Oh you're mad mad to have to resort to false name calling, You good Airplane? I was here for a good hour - Couldn't come up with a single discussion point that whole time? I can pay the ticket to send you out to Gaza if you'd like

What is it with the gay community and aligning themselves with people/movements/organizations that wouldn't think twice on... you know? It's weird - trying to justify or excuse what Hamas has done is... wild.

Anyways I'm off, Thanks to the like 2 members on here who actually could have a discussion! @KUNTPERFECTAIt was nice to meet you!

These are the same people who would preach 'Queers for Palestine' (An Actual sign from a Sydney Australia protest)..... The logic is.... not there and when faced with facts they'll downvote you lol.

Can't help you can't have a normal discussion, Your performative activism and hashtag is just that & your inability to understand opposing arguments is your own issues.. not mine.

A cease fire won't work, If you do some research when you have time, you'll see this plan was in motion years prior by Hamas and back by Iran and other forces. Israel won't back down especially after so many failed attempts to find a common ground.

Deflecting a little from my initial statement, You used the crutch of '75 years' as a means to say 'Well in 2023 you can't be surprised if one gets attack! 75 years!' and I directed you to a few further examples of the same tier. Those international laws and the same supporters your talking about are the same ones who believe Israeli's don't deserve such rights. I don't see IDF soldiers posting videos of dead Palestinians only to continue to defile their bodies, laugh and spit on them? I don't see Israeli's chanting 'G*s the j**s' at rallies the way Palestinians and fellow Arabs are, I don't see israeli's playing videos of atrocities and laughing with their friends at rallies the way Palestinians and Israeli's are. Why is that one side is in-sighting such vile acts en masse, yet everyone is condemning Israel for retaliating? I don't want bloodshed from either side, even being on Israel's side - But it's the way conflict works. It's blissful thinking to expect no casualties when a well backed country is infiltrated by terrorist representatives the people pushed into power. Peace treaty's will never be on the table again after this provoked attack, It won't be the 93' with the short lived arab-israeli peace treaty.

Well put. I unfortunately think if a revolt were to ever happen it'll be in a far too late stage - Pro Hamas Propaganda is so prevalent there, borderline instilled that a sort of Stockholm syndrome would be at play. 'I lost my home, But Hamas will protect me!' etc. Yeah, The age old tactic of hiding in plain site - Using them as meat shields to force the opposition to act with possible casualties, Though the civilians wouldn't see it like that. Absolutely agree on the USA/ISIS comment, Even with USA's extremely manipulative and past where they've destroyed many a country, Arabs as a whole suffered immensely with the lack of accountability and denouncing of those who use them as a facade representation. Definitely didn't help that Imam's were preaching Islam and ISIS beliefs on a wide scale and were praising homegrown terrorist attacks, Can't blame the Americans not ******* with that at all. I'm sure there's immense pressure to conform to that belief system, It's like any Islamic community - They hold very extreme and strong beliefs and you'd be outcast-ed if you don't align your beliefs as such. But yeah, I believe if there is any sort of uprising it'll happen to the point of no return. Many still defend ISIS and hold them as martyr's though in those regions - So it'll be interesting how that works out. This is all a bigger play to have predominantly European/western countries 'crumble' from within, But y'all would probably report me to Hamas yourselves If I continued on my thoughts.

Cop out excuse, Anyone who's country/motherland has been invaded in the past and seen atrocities on a wider scale should be allowed to align themselves with such groups or enact them themselves, right? Bosnians can enact such acts on serbians, Right? Aboriginies can enact such acts on Australians right? Assyrians/Armenians, RIGHT? I'm not stating Israel is innocent in the sentiment, But it's a ******* joke to use '75 years' as a crutch, All hell can break loose with no punishment w/ that thought process.

Gaza City is nowhere near that number, You're heavily criticizing Israel for 'no time' When Hamas had planned this attack with Iran and surrounding backings since 2021. They even planned a similar scale attack whilst Trump was in office but the attacks were foiled almost immediately. There's a reason why they attacked during a Jewish holiday, They knew Israel would be vulnerable. It's why it took longer to respond than expected. A week? In a climate where Israel is seeing attacks from more than just Hamas now? A week is like a decade in those times. Israel provides only 10% of the water and I believe it's a power play alongside the latest bombings with that of the hostages.

Very true. It'll be Deja Vu really if the hypothetical of 'Free Palestine' was enacted, I don't know if those in here are just too young or not interested in middle eastern history - But do they think Hamas are just going to say 'All in a good days work!' and resign? Do they know Hamas destroyed their own peoples pipeline's that were donated by the UN to use the plumbing for makeshift bombing? Destroying their own people's waterline & sewerage line to make bombs? Bb-b-b-bUT They're for the people right? Only Israel only provides 10% of the water and just under 45% of the electricity, Hamas rakes in over 700 million dollars a year, 33 million dollars a month from Qatar & the money they tax from their OWN people that WORK/ED in Israel - The same people that put them in power & the masses don't see that Hamas are using the money they're meant to invest in their country where? Where is all the money that is being given to them to aid their people? the users in here blindly saying '#frEePaLeStINE' with no knowledge at all except from what their bias arab friends are telling them? Yeah, FREE PALESTINE from HAMAS. The SAME people who are using them as meat shields and puppets for their own gain. The same ones hashtagging that will be the same ones in here in 3-5 years having an outcry when Palestinians and Gazans are being slaughtered en masse by Hamas if the hypothetical even has a tidbit to happen. Why the **** do y'all think Egypt has such a highly reinforced wall bordering Gaza?

It's the way of war, it's a cold sentiment and ******* sucks but it's the truth. Warnings were sent multiple times to evacuate, It comes to the point were one decides to listen or ignore it - You nor I nor anyone can tell them what to do.

Israel has given them 24 hour notice, How isn't that giving them opportunity to evacuate, Responsibility would've been if it was a sneak attack - But this latest bombing was tactile to hemorrhage Hamas in a way that would make it near impossible for them to smuggle the kidnapped Israeli's to nearing shores or that of Libya. Israel holds no responsibility to those who decided to listen to a jihadist group and stay - They can only do so much and send out warning signals to the point where one will make their own decision in the end. I find it also interesting how the masses (Especially arab who were having parades) held no responsibility on Hamas and used the '75 year occupation' cop out excuse to justify the atrocities. The Lebanese raped, slaughtered & ethnic cleansed my people and stole land of my people - Does that mean I'm equally justified to do such things on them? No.

That's one way of looking at it, Giving a 24 hour notice and letting civilians know to evacuate isn't the same courtesy the opposition gave when they invaded. As I mentioned, It's bizarre to think one can get away with such atrocities and expect no return of fire.