base talk Taylor Swift's most impressive achievement during "Swiftmania" (2022-24)?

[Blade Runner]

People in here talking about HITLER. Jesus.  Y'all lost it...

 

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She's literally changing laws around the world thanks to her tour, and she has politicians kissing her motherf+cking feet. Be fr... 

[RobynYoBank]

3 minutes ago, CécredSpaces said:

Nobody cares about Time Person of the Year.

 

It's not always a compliment, as seen on the 1938 edition:

 

The Eras Tour is more impressive, considering the prices, as well as the effort needed to go to a concert. The GP was for it.

No one says it has to be a compliment, but she remains the ONLY artist in history to be awarded POTY in her capacity as an artist. No musicians, no directors, no actors have ever been awarded POTY. It's singular. 

[kexin]

she put Charlie Puth back on the map

[PoisonedIvy]

3 hours ago, SamirahAyesha said:

It really isn't  Are you 16 or something?

Kids today they only consume data, they never experienced true pop culture. Peak is not just about numbers/sales, it's a mix of everything... numbers, hits, cultural impact, 'iconicness', media coverage, even controversies etc.

 

She doesn't have cultural resets like Madonna, Gaga or Britney.

 

 

Gaga's peak was a perfect storm made up of multiple powerful factors that she perfected and used to her advantage – media frenzy, celebrity, superstardom, shock value, a rapidly changing internet landscape with all the giant social media platforms like YouTube, Facebook and Twitter on the rise. All of that afforded her a very unique window of opportunity to reach and traverse multiple generations at an almost unprecedented scale in a short amount of time.

 

She was ubiquitous. Massive albums, massive singles, massive tours. Music video premieres that were cultural events. Iconic red carpet appearances that instantly found their way to full-page coverage. And this wasn't just happening disproporionately in pockets around the world, this was happening everywhere, daily and uniformly. Nowadays, we can curate our social experiences on our TikTok and Instagram feeds based on what we like or not but back then that wasn't possible as much, which made her even more inescapable and fueled her rise even further. To this day, that kind of cultural saturation that she attained as a result of simultaneous penetration (depth) and permeation (breadth) worldwide has not been matched by anyone after her, tbh. It's why so many publications refer to her as "Pop's last great superstar" or a variation of that. She could easily retire today and she will still remain a household name forever with what she accomplished early on in her career.

 

While it's true that Lady Gaga experienced a significant peak in popularity during 2009-2010, as evidenced by her high Google search results, it's important to consider that Google search data is just one aspect of measuring popularity.

 

Taylor Swift's enduring success over the years speaks volumes about her impact in the music industry. Unlike Gaga's relatively short-lived peak, Swift's career has continued to soar, reaching new heights in the 2010s and 2020s. Gaga's decline from her former dominance further underscores the transient nature of her peak. In contrast, Swift's consistent relevance and ability to evolve WHILE maintaining and growing in success suggest a deeper and more sustained impact on the industry.

 

Most significantly, the perception of Gaga's peak as larger may be influenced by the passage of time; we are further removed from it, allowing us to reflect on its magnitude. However, Swift's ongoing ascent means that we may not fully appreciate the scale of her achievements until her career eventually reaches its conclusion, providing a more comprehensive perspective on her legacy.

Edited April 30 by PoisonedIvy

[Rep2000]

5 hours ago, SamirahAyesha said:

But she's not part of pop culture history. 

 

She doesn't have a single iconic pop culture moment 

no iconic / memorable performances, no iconic outfits, etc 

Pop culture really is dead   

 

The only iconic thing she has is when kanye west interrupted her at the VMAs 

What does she have besides her stats? Besides her numbers there's nothing else. 

Imagine "iconic pop culture" moment is just performance or outfits. 

The Liddos are so shallow. Period.

[PoisonedIvy]

30 minutes ago, SamirahAyesha said:

im not reading that sorry 

Gaga's peak "looks" bigger because we are viewing it in full retrospect. It's like driving past a mountain. You see how large it is compared to everything else that you have driven past. Taylor's peak is STILL ascending, you are not able to see the mountain because you are -on- its slopes. Once her peak ends and we look back on this era, you'll be able to see how gargantuan it truly was. Hope this helps! 

[Finkypop]

This list is so… 

 

Literally the biggest artist of all time 

[HappierJealousy]

2 hours ago, SamirahAyesha said:

Y'all Taylor Swift fans always using sales and awards to shut down any critique is really hilarious. Truly the McDonald of pop

SALES aren't pop culture. It's just numbers, it's meaningless   

i'm talking about impact 

She is not a trailblazer, she's not a trendsetter, she is just the epitome of trashy manufactured formulaic corporate cookie cutter mass-produced mainstream pop, vanilla, boring and safe, with no artistic value 

Her music is faceless

She is literally the McDonalds of pop

 

 

Well, this explain a lot.  Apparently you knows nothing about music or music industry. And your perception on pop culture is just as superficial as McDonalds, cause for you, the concept of pop culture is equal to iconic look and stunt. But even for this standard, The 2009 VMA, bad blood music video, the release of Look what you made me do and the Eras tour are all HUGE pop culture moment. This is literally the first time even in this forum full of OTHs I have seen Taylor being called "faceless"   damn… her music is one of the most unique in the industry. That's why she is so hard to be copied so she is still not replaced by newcomer 18 years into her career, unlike certain artists. Taylor's impact is one of the biggest in music industry and that's why she is the first entertainer to be selected as Time's POTY and Gaga or Adele wasn't. I can give you a long list about how Taylor influences the world, the rule of the industry, the new generation artist, .etc but you can live in your own fantastic bubble stuck in 2009 and enjoying Gaga's meat dress I guess 

Edited April 30 by HappierJealousy

[lillavend3r]

Getting the swifties to believe the 1989 TV vault tracks were written during the OG album recording sessions

[PoisonedIvy]

16 minutes ago, lillavend3r said:

Getting the swifties to believe the 1989 TV vault tracks were written during the OG album recording sessions

But? We LITERALLY have proof of her writing Say Don't Go with Diane Warren back then. We have had the proof SINCE 2014  

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2 hours ago, SamirahAyesha said:

And Poker Face still annihilates her whole discography  

Taylor doesn't have a single song better than this 

 

 

style washes this 

[Where are you now?]

3 hours ago, CécredSpaces said:

Nobody cares about Time Person of the Year.

 

It's not always a compliment, as seen on the 1938 edition:

 

The Eras Tour is more impressive, considering the prices, as well as the effort needed to go to a concert. The GP was for it.

You can't be serious, subtly comparing Taylor to a person responsible for the mass murder of 6 million+ Jews. 

Edited April 30 by Where are you now?

[Rep2000]

5 hours ago, SamirahAyesha said:

K then what her iconic pop culture moments?  

The snake emoji? Km K Feud?  

Even Kim is more iconic than her  

It's you malding in this thread, baby. 

[CécredSpaces]

7 hours ago, Where are you now? said:

You can't be serious, subtly comparing Taylor to a person responsible for the mass murder of 6 million+ Jews. 

I'm not comparing her to Hitler. I'm saying that Time Person of the Year is not always a good thing.

[Darius]

The Era Tour. What a stomp

[Heldenzeit]

The fact that she plays 3.5h shows is absolutely a testament to her willpower and talent when she could just sit back and live on streaming royalties and merch.

[chiliam]

The Eras Tour is the background for all of this achievement (not midnights full top 10 though, that was before)

2billions grossing tour is massive massive. Like certified GOAT, no more questions, just GOAT

And she did that not only because of her popularity or base on luck  but because she works super hard for it. Like The Eras concept is so simple, but the vision she has, doing stuff that no one else could think of. Like we all though it would be a tour full of mashup and 25 songs max. She has a vision and she execute it and she received her flowers. Its so inspiring.

Edited April 30 by chiliam

[wsurferwayne]

the eras tour 1B is the achievement of the achievements!!!!

[greento]

13 hours ago, SamirahAyesha said:

And Poker Face still annihilates her whole vanilla flavorless basic snoozefest discography  

Taylor doesn't have a single song better than this 

I love Gaga but Taylor (and Gaga for that matter) have many better and more iconic songs than this