news Student movement in solidarity with Gaza goes global; police crackdowns ensue

[Jjang]

1 minute ago, Sun said:

I never said that. They can and they are. But then you're crying to me that more Palestinians are dying than the strongest military in the Middle East  make it make sense. Don't sit here with your "crocodile tears" (your words), while also stating the other side has just as much of a right to defend themselves as Israel does. 

"they can defend themselves from a fascist regime that imprisons them in concentration camps, but they shouldn't be surprised if the answer is genocide!" 

 

You're truly a despicable, sick person.

[Communion]

4 minutes ago, Sun said:

until all Jews are dead. 

Excuse me, why is evey Zionist refusing to address the below?

 

Please address the below or agree thst you should be restricted from posting in the Civics section going forward:

27 minutes ago, Communion said:

You're losing. No one believes you anymore. Give up. 

 

Calling for the end of a racist ethno-theocracy that maintains an artificial ethnic majority of Jewish people by systemic apartheid policies and allowing its citizens to commit pogroms =/= killing or physically harming anyone. 

 

Your assertion that a state where non-Jews are a permanently subjugated underclass must forever exist is deeply troubling. 

 

Allow for an Israel that doesn't have to be majority Jewish and you'd see people be fine with its existance. Why do you support ethno-states?

Surely supporting a violent ethno-state with artificial ethnic majority quotas would violate the ZTP policy. So again, to clarify, you and @N.M.K. are openly advocating for ethno-states and artificial ethnic majority quotas put in place through apartheid policies?

 

If a user said "I'm Polish and think Poland should be for Poles and policy is used to keep the ethnic majority of tje country pure," they'd likely land themselves in a ban. Are you suggesting one can swap Poland and Israel and such supremacist logic is then fine?

[GhostBox]

8 minutes ago, Communion said:

What is it going to take for you to understand no one believes you? That your words mean nothing? You'd be better off simply not typing anything because you actively show you like Joe Biden and thus will defend anything he does no matter the logical fallacies at the heart of your posts. Everyone reading is actively harmed by your posts amounting to disinformation by virtue of you openly rejecting reality and going "whatever Joe Biden says I agree with".

 

"Why is it so hard to condemn?"

 

Show me where in this video - that you supported as equating to violence - the exact timestamp where you think something worthy of condemning occurs:

 

 

 

Once again showing you can't just condemn the harassment of Jews at college campuses. 
 

 

[Sun]

My first post on this thread mentioned the antisemitism-deniers group of girls running in here with their mental gymnastics and that's exactly what happened. My first warning on this forum was for calling them antisemitic and yet they are openly doing it right here and now. Lord, have mercy. What a complete joke.

 

Anywho, s/o to the White House for putting their foot down and calling it for exactly what it is.  BYE!

[GhostBox]

4 minutes ago, Communion said:

Excuse me, why is evey Zionist refusing to address the below?

 

Please address the below or agree thst you should be restricted from posting in the Civics section going forward:

Surely supporting a violent ethno-state with artificial ethnic majority quotas would violate the ZTP policy. So again, to clarify, you and @N.M.K. are openly advocating for ethno-states and artificial ethnic majority quotas put in place through apartheid policies?

 

If a user said "I'm Polish and think Poland should be for Poles and policy is used to keep the ethnic majority of tje country pure," they'd likely land themselves in a ban. Are you suggesting one can swap Poland and Israel and such supremacist logic is then fine?

Speaking of Poland do you think protesters at these colleges screaming at Jewish people to go back to Poland is acceptable? Do you want to condemn that? Or no. 

[Anthropocene]

Pro-Palestinian people refusing to acknowledge antisemitism as an issue is deeply weird and sinister. 

[Communion]

 

Zionist protestor: *argues for the racial purity of Israel, that non-Jews must be subjugated and not allowed to become a majority or else Israel would no longer be Israel, that apartheid policies are fine to maintain this ethnic dominance*

 

American liberals: *silence*

 

Palestinian protestor: *waves flag and it graces over the lens of the phone camera of the Zionist student actively pushing into them to get into their protest*

 

American liberals: "You ******* commies have gone too far!!!"

 

?

[Jjang]

1 minute ago, Sun said:

I'm a genocide supporter pretending to be offended by 18 yo students protesting genocide 

From the river to the sea.  

[Communion]

2 minutes ago, GhostBox said:

Speaking of Poland do you think protesters at these colleges screaming at Jewish people to go back to Poland is acceptable?

Pop quiz - can you articulate, in your own words, why it is antisemitic to suggest a Jewish etnno-state (if one had to be built to begin with) should have been built somewhere within Europe and not the Middle East?

 

You have 5 minutes to respond with a thorough and ideologically consistent answer. I eagerly await your response. 

[GhostBox]

1 minute ago, Communion said:

Pop quiz - can you articulate, in your own words, why it is antisemitic to suggest a Jewish etnno-state (if one had to be built to begin with) should have been built somewhere within Europe and not the Middle East?

 

You have 5 minutes to respond with a thorough and ideologically consistent answer. I eagerly await your response. 

My question was simple. Are you ok with these protesters  screaming that at Jewish students or not?  It's a yes or no question. 
 

why don't you wanna answer that. 

Edited April 21 by GhostBox

[State of Grace.]

39 minutes ago, Sun said:

Was the US-Afghanistan 20 year war also a genocide? Or was them responding the same way Israel is doing right now with Hamas but to Al-Qaeda in Afghan just simply a war? 
 

Oh wow. Should have known that the genocide supporter also supports the US invading and terrorizing other countries for years. 

[Communion]

8 minutes ago, GhostBox said:

Once again showing you can't just condemn the harassment of Jews at college campuses

Again, please provide the timestamp in the video provided to you of what you'd like to be condemned. You have an additional 3 minutes to provide this information in addition to the original 5 minutes alloted to you. 

 

It would be to everyone's benefit if you simply stop posting if you cannot provide both things within the requested time. 

[Sun]

6 minutes ago, Communion said:

Pop quiz - can you articulate, in your own words, why it is antisemitic to suggest a Jewish etnno-state (if one had to be built to begin with) should have been built somewhere within Europe and not the Middle East?

 

You have 5 minutes to respond with a thorough and ideologically consistent answer. I eagerly await your response. 

165/193 of total UN member states recognize Israel as a state. Cry about it, crocodile tears, or take it up with them! NEXT TOPIC!
 

Edited April 21 by Sun

[byzantium]

I wish the White House would spend a bit more time withholding weapons Israel is using to commit genocide.  It might ultimately help the situation. 

[GhostBox]

2 minutes ago, Communion said:

Again, please provide the timestamp in the video provided to you of what you'd like to be condemned. You have an additional 3 minutes to provide this information in addition to the original 5 minutes alloted to you. 

 

It would be to everyone's benefit if you simply stop posting if you cannot provide both things within the requested time. 

Still won't answer the question. Do you condemn protesters telling Jewish people to go back to Poland? 

yes or no.

 You have another 3 minutes 

[Communion]

2 minutes ago, GhostBox said:

why don't you wanna answer that

You were already given an answer. There's nothing clearly antisemitic about referring to Israelis as European colonizers and settlers. Millions of them are European. 

 

So - again - can you articulate (in YOUR own words) why this should be condemned? Explain it. 

 

Is it also anti-white for native and indigenous protestors in America, Canada, and Australia to refer to those with European ancestry as settlers and colonizers?

[GhostBox]

12 minutes ago, Anthropocene said:

Pro-Palestinian people refusing to acknowledge antisemitism as an issue is deeply weird and sinister. 

This is basically all that's wrong. It's ok to admit and acknowledge the antisemitism that's happening right now. While also supporting Palestine. 

[Communion]

9 minutes ago, Communion said:

Again, please provide the timestamp in the video provided to you of what you'd like to be condemned. You have an additional 3 minutes to provide this information in addition to the original 5 minutes alloted to you. 

 

It would be to everyone's benefit if you simply stop posting if you cannot provide both things within the requested time. 

 

12 minutes ago, Communion said:

Pop quiz - can you articulate, in your own words, why it is antisemitic to suggest a Jewish etnno-state (if one had to be built to begin with) should have been built somewhere within Europe and not the Middle East?

 

You have 5 minutes to respond with a thorough and ideologically consistent answer. I eagerly await your response. 

Waiting! @GhostBox

 

Where does this man sound like he's from based on his accent? Jordan? Syria? Yemen? Iran? ....Brooklyn?

 

 

 

Edited April 21 by Communion

[GhostBox]

4 minutes ago, Communion said:

 

Waiting! @GhostBox

 

Where does this man sound like he's from based on his accent? Jordan? Syria? Yemen? Iran? ....Brooklyn?

 

 

 

This has nothing to do with the harassment of innocent Jewish kids on college campuses. Something you've admitted is ok in your book. 
 

 

[TROPICUM]

Certain members trying oh so desperately to have a 'gotcha' moment while talking about an on-going genocide is very hard to see, cringe-wise

 

Students protesting against the clear and already proven attempt to wipe out Palestinians is not antisemitic. Some of the comments made by a minority were truly extreme but it does not represent the whole movement, mostly when there are a vast majority of jewish people advocating for the ceasefire, which brings up something very funny, that a lot of people that stand with Israel's heinous acts aren't even jewish.

 

[Communion]

7 minutes ago, GhostBox said:

of innocent Jewish kids on college campuses.

You mean *checks video again* counter-protestors who showed up to an anti-genocide protest with the literal flag of the nation accused of doing genocide?

 

 

Why are Zionists trying to attend anti-genocide rallies with the flag and in support of the nation doing genocide?

 

"Innocent students just walking through campus"...with a 10 foot Israeli flag?

 

What would be the response to showing up to a pro-Ukraine protest with a Russian flag?

Edited April 22 by Communion

[Anthropocene]

7 minutes ago, Communion said:

You mean *checks video again* counter-protestors who showed up to an anti-genocide protest with the literal flag of the nation accused of doing genocide?

 

 

Why are Zionists trying to attend anti-genocide rallies with the flag and in support of the nation doing genocide?

 

"Innocent students just walking through campus"...with a 10 foot Israeli flag?

 

What would be the response to showing up to a pro-Ukraine protest with a Russian flag?

The fact you posted a tweet showing Jewish students had to be warned it would be unsafe for them just being present as university proves theres a clear issue with anti semitism but you'll still refuse to acknowledge it. 

 

How about this individual holding a sign pointing at a group of students suggesting they should be the next victims of a terror group responsible for killing hundreds of Jews in the Middle East? Does that bother you at all or do you not care about genocidal rhetoric when it comes to Jewish people? 

 

 

Edited April 22 by Anthropocene

[Communion]

Just now, Anthropocene said:

had to be warned it would be unsafe for them just being present

No, I shared a tweet from a Zionist,.convincing themselves and other Zionists that they're are somehow in danger, yet in the very video shared, the "innocent student" is not a student but a counter-protestor. 

 

Again, what would you argue is the correct response for when supporters of Putin show up to a Ukraine rally and wave the Russian flag? 

 

In the photo you've shared, you have more counter-protestors waving the flag of Israel. If supporting Hamas means you support killing Jewish people, what does it mean to support Israel, who has killed 30,000 people? What do you suggest it means when people come to support Israel at a rally condemning Israel for killing 30,000+ people?

[ClashAndBurn]

42 minutes ago, Anthropocene said:

The fact you posted a tweet showing Jewish students had to be warned it would be unsafe for them just being present as university proves theres a clear issue with anti semitism but you'll still refuse to acknowledge it. 

 

How about this individual holding a sign pointing at a group of students suggesting they should be the next victims of a terror group responsible for killing hundreds of Jews in the Middle East? Does that bother you at all or do you not care about genocidal rhetoric when it comes to Jewish people? 

 

 

And you posted a tweet from a Columbia adjunct professor who is currently under investigation for at least 50 complaints and has called for the National Guard to be deployed in order to violently disperse the protesters. You're not posting an objective, neutral source here. You're posting someone who wants all of the protesters shot dead - not just the extremists but the peaceful ones too.

 

Anyone who posts a tweet from the likes of Shai Davidai, Eve Barlow, or Brianna Wu for any purpose other than ridicule shouldn't be taken seriously imo

Edited April 22 by ClashAndBurn

[Anthropocene]

1 minute ago, Communion said:

No, I shared a tweet from a Zionist,.convincing themselves and other Zionists that they're are somehow in danger, yet in the very video shared, the "innocent student" is not a student but a counter-protestor. 

 

Again, what would you argue is the correct response for when supporters of Putin show up to a Ukraine rally and wave the Russian flag? 

 

In the photo you've shared, you have more counter-protestors waving the flag of Israel. If supporting Hamas means you support killing Jewish people, what does it mean to support Israel, who has killed 30,000 people? What do you suggest it means when people come to support Israel at a rally condemning Israel for killing 30,000+ people?

I don't support Russia, but I also don't support encouraging a terror attack on anyone who does support Russia. You seem unable to say you don't endorse encouraging a terror attack on Jewish students which is troubling - you should probably have a sit down with yourself and take a step back away from ATRL!