base talk Are Little monsters delusional about Gaga place in the acting field?

[John Slayne]

1 minute ago, playboi said:

Also the Oscars academy should NEVER be considered a hallmark for film/acting quality 

 

They've been consistently giving awards to the a very small community of Hollywood elite, receiving an oscar or being nominated for one is like... 99% for pandering to them and 1% for the actual material  

there is some truth to this, but like... why don't other pop girls win/get nominated then?

[sunbathinganimal]

she has given two critically acclaimed leading performances and is about to star in one of the biggest films of the year, so no I think GaGa's place in the acting field is fine

 

 

 

[GraceRandolph]

5 minutes ago, suburbannature said:

She received praise from several critics and approx two dozen mixed/negative from MC/RT-eligible critics as well. They were posted in the thread at the time. Y’all couldn’t handle it then and can’t handle it now.

 

having a more mixed reception doesn’t mean the praise doesn’t exist.

HOG got reviewed by 369 critics on RT, so 24 mixed reviews doesn’t mean much.

[suburbannature]

Just now, John Slayne said:

there is some truth to this, but like... why don't other pop girls win/get nominated then?

For acting or in general?

[MatiRod]

She got SAG, BAFTA, Globes, Critics Choice noms for Gucci so clearly she was very much in the awards conversation

 

Her transition to acting has been spectacular since ASIB. That Patricia Regianni role in Gucci was the type that usually only goes to an established actress, like you could've seen Ana de Armas or Penelope Cruz playing that role as well. Ridley Scott doesn't do stunt casting.

 

And Joker 2 is a sequel to a Best Picture/Best Director-nominated film so it's hardly a gaudy comic book movie that would go for pop star vanity casting. No way Joaquin Phoenix would've been ok with the choice if they didn't believe in her as an actress.

 

I think the time is ripe for her to do Cleopatra next, the new version has been in development hell for years and IIRC it was mostly due to casting indecision, but Gaga checks all the boxes right now. That would really cement her as an A list actress of her generation.

 

[suburbannature]

Just now, GraceRandolph said:

HOG got reviewed by 369 critics on RT, so 24 mixed reviews doesn’t mean much.

I wasn’t including the many irrelevant RT critics. I said major publications.

[Mr. Stratus]

49 minutes ago, vale9001 said:

I'm not specifically talking about the fact if she's really that talented or not, the thread it's not exactly about that.

 

Lady Gaga was chosen by a very loved, and very well inserted in the Hollywood system, actor for his first movie. The movie was the fourth movie and the third remake of "brand" in Hollywood already collected 18 Oscar nominations (everyone of them with multi nominees).

 

 

She was there in a musical was build for the Oscars, near to a very loved already multinominated actor. Everything was right and screamed "both this actor are gonna get a nomination" (like Gosling- Stone for La La Land the year before).

 

After the success of the movie she was casted by another director certainly important but not exactly at his peak in terms of critical and awards acclaim. Infact the movie was snubbed by the Academy and despite a very strong and savage campaign and the hype from the film before Gaga failed to get another nomination.

 

Is gaga really in the position in Hollywood to be talked like "a possibile next nomination" every time she gets a role, only because she was nominated for the perfect oscar bait movie A star is born?

 

yes. According to little monsters reactions. For them right now she's right there with like Emma Stone, Margot Robbie, Saoirse Ronan etc.. like these actress are working with Gerwig, Scorsese, Lanthimos, Tarantino, Inarritu, Anderson etc... but actually she's not there. She has worked with Robert Rodriguez, then with an hollywood star is trying to be a director (failing a nomination as director two times despite Best picture), than Ridley Scott in the year of lord 2022 and the director of Road Trip for a sequel of Joker.

 

She's not in the field they think she has. Maybe there is a great actress inside her, maybe a bright future in the acting field in terms of success and famous roles ( cause legendary actors are not only the ones with an oscar nomination every 2 year or with a movies at Cannes or Venice every two years) but right now her weight in the Hollywood system in terms of being in the top tier quality field is overrated by her fans 

 

 

This feels like some Madonna/Taylor Stan’d copium meltdown  because you saw this tweet:

Also you say she’s not like Margot Robbie well even Margot got snubbed when she was making all precursors (prob more cause of the box office than her performance). We’re not over rating her, others praise her and she’s won a trifecta award and critics choice for her acting alone. 

[MatiRod]

8 minutes ago, Digitalism said:

It's like she is waiting for big flashy roles in big movies that can be big at the box office instead of choosing several maybe smaller good movies or good roles. 

I think this is totally intentional and the roles she's picked also fit her musical persona. Ally is basically auto-biographical, Patrizia Regianni plays into the grand diva with a dark side persona (Paparazzi video teas), Harley Quinn in a musical is just spot-on Gaga from horror/villain elements to over the top costumes.

 

Probably in the future she will do supporting roles though.

[Cain]

She was in 1 successful movie, so yes

[John Slayne]

4 minutes ago, suburbannature said:

For acting or in general?

for acting but tbh in general too. unless it's a Bond song pop girls have a hard time winning an Academy Award. yes there is Cher, Barbra, and now Gaga but they are the outliers. many have tried to have an acclaimed acting career and failed (Madonna, Beyonce, heck even JLo doesn't have an Oscar and she's a bigger actress than she is a musician). even Taylor couldn't win for her song despite being extremely popular and acclaimed.

[CovalentBondage]

34 minutes ago, suburbannature said:

This is kind of revisionist, love. She received a LOT of mixed or straight-up negative reviews. 

Lmao that's not true. 

[GraceRandolph]

3 minutes ago, Cain said:

She was in 1 successful movie, so yes

HOG was financially successful. Why you lying? 

[suburbannature]

2 minutes ago, John Slayne said:

for acting but tbh in general too. unless it's a Bond song pop girls have a hard time winning an Academy Award. yes there is Cher, Barbra, and now Gaga but they are the outliers. many have tried to have an acclaimed acting career and failed (Madonna, Beyonce, heck even JLo doesn't have an Oscar and she's a bigger actress than she is a musician). even Taylor couldn't win for her song despite being extremely popular and acclaimed.

I agree that her film resume is already impressive!

[Summerboy95]

Some people need to touch some grass...

 

 

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OT: She's on track to becoming the most successful singer-turned-actress of all time. Let's not...

[Cain]

1 minute ago, GraceRandolph said:

HOG was financially successful. Why you lying? 

HOG was panned and barely broke even, “successful” is a stretch

 

Obviously FAD will do good, so that’s two (2) successful movies in 6 years

[BadHabits]

26 minutes ago, LittleStarmen said:

No they are not delusional

 

Gaga has the singing/dramatic performances that none of her peers have and a very classic old hollywood style that puts her in her own lane.

 

Star is born could have easily been forgetable

 

Gaga has a lot of things that many Hollywood actors don't have:

 

1. Musicality that makes her versatile as an actress. Most film and TV actors can't sing or perform like she can.

2. She's a better dancer than most "current" popstars and actors

3. She has a quirky personality and she's got a huge following on social media

4. She has a huge fanbase / star power and has an instantly-recognisable name

 

 

 

 

 

[John Slayne]

13 minutes ago, suburbannature said:

first of all, those are critic awards bodies - some are reviewers, many are not. Some of those are peer industry award. We’re talking about reviews. Annette Bening’s terrible Nyah performance was nominated frequently as well.
 

Go back to the critic thread and you can see the mixed reviews listed in detail. 
 

 

the critics consensus is right there. just because some reviews were negative does not change the fact that the overwhelming majority was positive. she also hit all of the Academy Award precursors, so yes, saying her performance had 'mixed' reception is just a factually incorrect statement. 

[WildAmerican]

1 minute ago, Cain said:

HOG was panned and barely broke even, “successful” is a stretch

 

Obviously FAD will do good, so that’s two (2) successful movies in 6 years

can you not hold two truths in your head at the same time? It got mixed reviews but Gaga's performance was generally acclaimed. And it was pandemic BO every drama like HOG did like $20m WW.

[John Slayne]

2 minutes ago, Cain said:

HOG was panned and barely broke even, “successful” is a stretch

didn't it outgross basically all other dramas from that year combined?

[Mr. Stratus]

42 minutes ago, suburbannature said:

This is kind of revisionist, love. She received a LOT of mixed or straight-up negative reviews. 

She made every precursor, including the BAFTA that no one else made from the BA lineup, and won a trifecta. Nicole Kidman didn’t even get on the metacritic pre-cursor board . You’re not winning on this low-key ‘Gaga was panned in HoG’ argument  cause it doesn’t exist lol I’ll give you that her accent was brought up a fair few times, but her saving a mixed film added to making her look better, if anything 

Edited February 26 by Mr. Stratus

[Cain]

1 minute ago, WildAmerican said:

can you not hold two truths in your head at the same time?

I can! 1: HOG was panned and 2: barely broke even

[MatiRod]

5 minutes ago, Cain said:

HOG was panned and barely broke even, “successful” is a stretch

 

Obviously FAD will do good, so that’s two (2) successful movies in 6 years

It was still COVID times and adult movies were flopping, HOG was the highest grossing adult drama of the pandemic. It was considered a success at the time under those parameters and it also told studios that Gaga was a draw.

 

Why do you think she's getting paid $12 million (same Margot got for Barbie) for House of Gucci? Warner Bros. doesn't do charity. They're only going to pay what they think they will bring to the box office.

Edited February 26 by MatiRod

[Kimi]

17 minutes ago, suburbannature said:

I wasn’t including the many irrelevant RT critics. I said major publications.

you obvs gonna pick and chose whatever fits your narrative but the truth is that her acting was generally well received 

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Delusional how? When she has won almost every prestigious acting award out there and she’s only on her 3rd major movie role 

[RideOrDie]

oh atrl you will never beat the allegations... 

 

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