airplane Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 (edited) She went from effortlessly debuting at the top to needing a billion versions of her “single” to top the chart (which will obviously free fall to the pits after week 1) The fact that she’s doing all of the below just to lead by 5 points on the Hot 100 shows that her fanbase and overall power has significantly diminished. How is she unable to largerly increase the points margin (considering how many versions of the song there are)? Her public image is already in the mud and the song keeps decreasing in streams everyday. How can she turn this around before it’s too late? I like the song btw and don't hate her Exhibits: Edited January 19 by airplane 1 4 8 29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post State of Grace. Posted January 19 Popular Post Share Posted January 19 (edited) I love these threads because they always backfire. Throwback to all the "Taylor hitless" threads kii Edited January 19 by State of Grace. 22 6 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalkThatRihanna Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 No. She debuted with 13M+ for hype alone. Yes And is only freefalling because it was a bad lead choice and has no strong chorus 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RideOrDie Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 artists rise, peak, then they gradually decline (unless they are taylor swift) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gelato Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 cringe atrl hopium 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jadeabove Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 I think people are too quick to press on the panic button. Give it time. No wonder these labels abort projects so quickly. Let her go through her process. Yes and ? is not an immediate banger, but on my second listening with lyrics and the visual, I immediately saw the appeal. Either way, her voice is just perfectly pop coded. Also, Ariana's strenght is in performance, she'll need that to stay afloat or at the top. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burninredhot Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 She just needs to drop the album... one or two songs can go viral on tiktok and turned into singles for that hit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Material Girl Posted January 19 Popular Post Share Posted January 19 without the different mixes she would still be debuting top 2, sounds like a hit to me not every song is going to be a massive cultural moment or meme. holding an artist to that standard is ridiculous and you're clearly just setting up your own narrative for some boring stan war 36 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay07 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 Song is weak and not memorable enough. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wxvii Posted January 19 Popular Post Share Posted January 19 A potential #2 debut being “dragworthy” on ATRL is exactly how I know y’all are out of touch. 10 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
She-Rah Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 Her image is tarnished beyond repair, she’s lost her youthful looks/beauty plus she’s older now and she never truly established a solid fan base she was just the it girl during like 2 years but the GP has moved on. 8 1 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vale9001 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 after the initial peak the song seem stable on still great daily numbers so I don't see any problem and I see a hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolution Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 it is her ME! the song is too fun/camp/musical/gay for the GP who only likes sad girl music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ugo Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 I think the home wrecking allegations actually did damage her image plus yes and doesn’t hit that hard against that bad press unlike look what made you me do. 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airplane Posted January 19 Author Share Posted January 19 Just now, vale9001 said: after the initial peak the song seem stable on still great daily numbers so I don't see any problem and I see a hit. it keeps dropping in streams. Todays update has a drop of half a million streams 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chosensparkles Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 1 minute ago, Revolution said: it is her ME! the song is too fun/camp/musical/gay for the GP who only likes sad girl music. Please this is miles better than MEH 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mocha Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 couldl've been alot worse with the controversy surrounding her.. she was actually smart for this and Ariana always has some smashes saved for album release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Silva Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 (edited) Max Martin is burnt out but there does not yet appear to be a consistent next generation ‘Hit’ songwriter with his former songwriting strengths to replace him. Ariana has enough fans who will remain loyal and hold out for stronger material but it feels like 5 minutes ago she flew back to the U.S. from England after filming “Wicked” and began her album from scratch. The quality of the first single is reflective of how rushed the studio sessions were. Meanwhile there are others who scheduled studio time with Max just prior to Ariana (including Madonna), whose material is still being finished off and is yet to be heard. Edited January 19 by Dante Silva Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digitalism Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 You're 100% correct All your dreams came true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airplane Posted January 19 Author Share Posted January 19 (edited) 5 minutes ago, wxvii said: A potential #2 debut being “dragworthy” on ATRL is exactly how I know y’all are out of touch. This song is expected to do just 265 points which is a massive decline compared to her other songs. Mind you, this one has like 69 various versions to buy and stream but it’s not doing anything for her Edited January 19 by airplane 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digitalism Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 You're 100% correct All your dreams came true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devin Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 the song still would debut high. the mixes just lock in that #1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suburbannature Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 7 minutes ago, wxvii said: A potential #2 debut being “dragworthy” on ATRL is exactly how I know y’all are out of touch. Loverboy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What_A_Mess Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 No scooter no hits 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mordecai Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 5 minutes ago, airplane said: This song is expected to do just 265 points which is a massive decline compared to her other songs. Mind you, this one has like 69 various versions to buy and stream but it’s not doing anything for her The fact that all those songs are #1s and she's close to tying Katy (whose #1s are all remembered) tells you how much the charts these days are a joke Yes, and is a bop though and is absolutely single material, I'm not sure where all the criticisms of it being 'weak' are coming from 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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