news Israel-Palestine Conflict 2023/ 2024 Mega Thread

[LazzyGrant]

I do believe they don’t care about hamas they wanted this to happen so bad to genocide all of them that’s their plan and wish all of these years I can’t believe this is happening especially you know they suffered from the holocaust but doing it in a different way 

 

what a disgusting piece of pigs some miracle needs to happen to end all of them out of the map (oh absolutely they should receive letters to evacuate) 

[Nova_23]

I know i’ve said this numerous times but shaming these genocide supporters is where it’s at. 

 

In the past, Trudeau would have went to this mosque got his photo op and called it a day. No more. 

 

[FOCK]

 

[Nova_23]

this is what @welham was talking about I believe 

 

 

[Harrier]

Portarying what is going on as equivalent to the Holocaust is counterproductive and will just offend moderate or left leaning Jews that might be sympathetic to Palestine/ceasefire

There is no modern parallell to the deliberate, systematic slaughter of 6 million civillians in 3-4 years

 

I do agree with the use of the term genocide however given the ethnic cleansing of Gaza (especially if Gazans are not allowed to return)

[DAP]

Oh this is some next level union busting 

[More Than A Melody]

3 hours ago, Gaia said:

I knew people were going to start getting more comfortable diminishing the Hamas attack, attributing it to Israel instead of the group that committed it, and stating there was no other alternative and they were "pushed" to that extreme.

 

 

Let's be clear that only a terrorist group would kill near 1,500 civilians in a single attack. That's not a "Resistance" and trying to desensitize and justify the Hamas attack (which is what you're doing, factually, by saying there was no other way for them to go about Israel occupation) does nothing, especially when you're asking people to have empathy while you post...that.

 

The actions of the Israeli government will NEVER be justification for the Hamas attack the same way the Hamas attack and continuous hold of hostages is not justification for Israel's killing of thousands of civilians since.

 

This thread seemingly gets more and more radical by the day, it's very interesting.

Next time @ me.

 

Enlighten us, oh wise one, what would you have done?

 

[Headlock]

3 hours ago, Gaia said:

This thread seemingly gets more and more radical by the day, it's very interesting.

Some would say openly admitting to a lack of empathy towards a population under genocide because of transactional politics is quite radical, no?

 

[ICLDXU4HS]

45 minutes ago, FOCK said:

 

Awfully cheerful for a group of people going to “war”.

[ClashAndBurn]

Joe Biden is even more of a Zionist Warhawk terrorist than Ronald Reagan.

[Riot]

3 hours ago, HungryByTheBuffet said:

The way this site is so anti-America, anti-West ideology, it's giving far-right

Supporting America would actually be far-right.

[Nova_23]

 

[FlyPirate]

6 hours ago, HungryByTheBuffet said:

The way this site is so anti-America, anti-West ideology, it's giving far-right

 tell me you have no idea what you’re talking about without telling me

[Cloröx]

I guess it's pretty safe to say that almost all evidences provided by IDF are fake 

 

 

[Riot]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Fauxmoi/s/6ohnyJVD4t

 

This lipless pig

[Nova_23]

I am getting so emotional seeing the world come out in support of Palestine. So many places have tried to suppress the Palestinian voice and the people refused to allow it. Protesting even when they’ve been told not to. I saw someone wrote 

 

We think we are freeing Palestine but really it’s Palestine freeing us

 

I literally haven’t stopped crying because it’s so accurate. People are defying “orders” that are outrageous and gaining back their freedom in a sense around the world in their fight for a Free Palestine. 

[HungryByTheBuffet]

So this thread isn't for information much anymore I guess?

Haven't seen anyone post AP, CNN both sources and their own intelligence, US intelligence, etc etc, confirm he hospital attack wasn't done by Israel.

 

Has the down-vote brigade gotten everyone's tongue? lol

 

7 hours ago, Riot said:

Supporting America would actually be far-right.

Because y'all have gotten accustomed to a way of living without realizing how fragile it is and how history shows that way of living is bound to attacks from the world and is vulnerable, if you guys don't feel it's important to protect the human dignity, rights, etc the western establishment has built slowly over the years I really don't know what to tell you, good luck in the real world if it comes to that.

 

Some of you not understanding the bigger implications of Iran attacking western societies, the bigger picture of Russia, North Korea, etc, tagging along because for them it's anti-west fueled and in particular anti-America and y'all have no issue just jumping along on that.

And they'll love to use this rift in politics and ideology to own benefits.

But you guys truly don't see where it can easily lead and stay in this thread attacking Biden all day for doing everything right, if any of you in this thread actually cared about world stability and security.

[Nova_23]

 

[Nova_23]

1 minute ago, HungryByTheBuffet said:

So this thread isn't for information much anymore I guess?

Haven't seen anyone post AP, CNN both sources and their own intelligence, US intelligence, etc etc, confirm he hospital attack wasn't done by Israel.

 

Has the down-vote brigade gotten everyone's tongue? lol

 

Because y'all have gotten accustomed to a way of living without realizing how fragile it is and how history shows that way of living is bound to attacks from the world and is vulnerable, if you guys don't feel it's important to protect the human dignity, rights, etc the western establishment has built slowly over the years I really don't know what to tell you, good luck in the real world if it comes to that.

 

Some of you not understanding the bigger implications of Iran attacking western societies, the bigger picture of Russia, North Korea, etc, tagging along because for them it's anti-west fueled and in particular anti-America and y'all have no issue just jumping along on that.

And they'll love to use this rift in politics and ideology to own benefits.

But you guys truly don't see where it can easily lead and stay in this thread attacking Biden all day for doing everything right, if any of you in this thread actually cared about world stability and security.

I didn’t bother to read anything you wrote after you listed sources who’ve lied repeatedly since Oct 7th to try and “prove” something. None of your sources have provided evidence for their claims and until they do so I have absolutely zero reason to believe proven liars.  

[HungryByTheBuffet]

Still trying to wrap my head around the basic idea that according to most of you guys Israelis should basically be kicked out of their homes, sent "elsewhere" or "back to where they came from" etc etc, so basically your answer is just for another side to win a war so that people can AGAIN get displaced etc, basically redoing what you all find so horrendous in the first place, just to the "correct" people? you all know it's been long enough. the people you so want to kick out of their homes are like 3rd sometimes 4th generations

 

Yet there's nothing wrong to you guys with "annihilate Israel" "kick all Israelis out" and other hate fueled posts? you guys are just blind to the nationalism and war mongering you're sipping on?

 

this thread is an echo-chamber that often derails, I see no one say anything when users here post tiktoks alluding to "Jews/Mossad did 9/11" and other unhinged rhetoric, you guys are completely oblivious to how you actually sound.

 

RACIST. HATEFUL.

we can keep on mincing words or trying to argue with you but the mask ain't even on.

[HungryByTheBuffet]

4 minutes ago, Nova_23 said:

I didn’t bother to read anything you wrote after you listed sources who’ve lied repeatedly since Oct 7th to try and “prove” something. None of your sources have provided evidence for their claims and until they do so I have absolutely zero reason to believe proven liars.  

Yeah yeah I've heard all about it, CNN are liars, AP basically the most highly regarded publication - liars! add all of western media on top of that, Biden is a liar, US intelligence? liars, Israelis liars of course, anyone I forgot?

 

I guess the only ones giving the truth out there is Al Jazeera with its direct links to Hamas? or random tweets off the internet?

 

Great vetted information you all live off of.

[AvadaKedavra]

18 minutes ago, HungryByTheBuffet said:

So this thread isn't for information much anymore I guess?

Haven't seen anyone post AP, CNN both sources and their own intelligence, US intelligence, etc etc, confirm he hospital attack wasn't done by Israel.

 

Has the down-vote brigade gotten everyone's tongue? lol

 

Because y'all have gotten accustomed to a way of living without realizing how fragile it is and how history shows that way of living is bound to attacks from the world and is vulnerable, if you guys don't feel it's important to protect the human dignity, rights, etc the western establishment has built slowly over the years I really don't know what to tell you, good luck in the real world if it comes to that.

 

Some of you not understanding the bigger implications of Iran attacking western societies, the bigger picture of Russia, North Korea, etc, tagging along because for them it's anti-west fueled and in particular anti-America and y'all have no issue just jumping along on that.

And they'll love to use this rift in politics and ideology to own benefits.

But you guys truly don't see where it can easily lead and stay in this thread attacking Biden all day for doing everything right, if any of you in this thread actually cared about world stability and security.

Welcome to the forum where they have allowed extremist threads pro-china and pro-russia-antiukraine-more propaganda and so much disinformation to live.
A good unbiased place with good nuance is not  
Where information is manipulated according to personal biases and there's not a real picture of the truth anymore. 

This is one of the reasons why i dont visit the civics anymore. Im baffled how the mods of ATRl have allowed that.  
Looks more like an echo chamber and cannibalization....and im telling this as someone from Left and very liberal

I even seen some people trying to silence the thoughts about my own latino country and masquerading them to fullfill their agendas even when they dont live here. Its sad.  So ATRL for me is only for Celebria-Lounge and thats it.

Political talk i do it in Reddit in some subs with multichromatic takes

Edited October 21, 2023 by AvadaKedavra

[Komet]

38 minutes ago, HungryByTheBuffet said:

So this thread isn't for information much anymore I guess?

Haven't seen anyone post AP, CNN both sources and their own intelligence, US intelligence, etc etc, confirm he hospital attack wasn't done by Israel.

 

Absolutely, it has turned into an anti-Semitic echo chamber where anything that's not explicitly 'Izrael = BAD' gets downvoted, but islamistic-fueled propaganda gets spread left and right

 

Eta: Yeah piling downvotes will definitely prove this post wrong  Maybe it's time to log off for some of you

Edited October 21, 2023 by Komet blu

[Komet]

Just now, AvadaKedavra said:

Welcome to the forum where they allow extremist threads pro-china and pro-russia-antiukraine-more propaganda and so much disinformation to live. A good unbiased place with good nuance is not 

And it's always the same users, it's giving unemployment at this point

[ClashAndBurn]

1 minute ago, HungryByTheBuffet said:

Still trying to wrap my head around the basic idea that according to most of you guys Israelis should basically be kicked out of their homes, sent "elsewhere" or "back to where they came from" etc etc, so basically your answer is just for another side to win a war so that people can AGAIN get displaced etc, basically redoing what you all find so horrendous in the first place, just to the "correct" people? you all know it's been long enough. the people you so want to kick out of their homes are like 3rd sometimes 4th generations

 

Yet there's nothing wrong to you guys with "annihilate Israel" "kick all Israelis out" and other hate fueled posts? you guys are just blind to the nationalism and war mongering you're sipping on?

 

this thread is an echo-chamber that often derails, I see no one say anything when users here post tiktoks alluding to "Jews/Mossad did 9/11" and other unhinged rhetoric, you guys are completely oblivious to how you actually sound.

 

RACIST. HATEFUL.

we can keep on mincing words or trying to argue with you but the mask ain't even on.

Still trying to wrap my head around the basic idea that according to most of you ATRL Zionists, Palestinians should basically be kicked out of their homes, sent "elsewhere" to some other Arab country that they have no connection to, or sit down and accept their reality as an oppressed population in an apartheid state, etc. etc., so basically your answer is just for Israel to be free to do whatever they want with them. The people Israel want to kick out of their homes so they can annex Gaza and the West Bank have been there for generations.

 

Yet there's nothing wrong to you guys with "Palestinians are human animals," "there are no innocent civilians in Gaza," and "the Gaza strip will decrease in territory" and other hate filled statements made by the Israeli government? You guys are just blind to the nationalism and war mongering you're sipping on?

 

RACIST. HATEFUL.

 

We can keep on mincing words or trying to argue with you evil motherfuckers, but the mask ain't even on.