State of Grace. Posted October 20, 2023 Posted October 20, 2023 Hospitals, churches, mosques, schools, residential buildings...in the name of "self-defense" 😬
Anthinos Posted October 20, 2023 Posted October 20, 2023 5 hours ago, Robert said: Sharing this for people that try to use LGBT rights to justify Many LGBT+ people who were born there try to get asylum in Israel. Anyone remember the story of the poor gay guy who tried to flee to Israel? His name was Ahmad Abu Marhia. You can hate Israel as much as you want but for LGBT+ people Israel is clearly the best country in the region. There is homophobia in Israel, too. But gays, lesbians and trans people can live their life freely in Israel. I don't care what your opinion about the war is but the left should be honest when it comes to LGBT+ rights and LGBT+ rights and religion. 1 10
Letemtalk Posted October 20, 2023 Posted October 20, 2023 (edited) 14 hours ago, Aristotle said: Lets say that Israel destroys the Hamas what will happen next to Palestine? Can they at least put Abbas in power? If the apartheid continues a new terrorist group will easily emerge. They need to end the apartheid. Can who put Abbas in power? Israel will do their best to prevent any Palestinian leader in the West Bank from having any real power. The Palestinian Authority only has control over a small part of the West Bank and the real control is always with Israel and the IDF. The PA can put other Palestinians in jail and can't do much other than that. If Biden offered Netanyahu the choice of ethnic cleansing of Palestinians in the West Bank or Gaza, he would pick the West Bank without hesitation, although he would probably use the ancient biblical names, "Judah" and "Samaria". Take a look at any map of Ancient Israel and Gaza isn't really a significant part of the picture in most cases. Israel wants exclusive control of the West Bank, which they occupied in 1967 and have no intention of leaving. They might talk about two states and having no partner for peace, but they have no interest in sharing with the people that have been there for hundreds of years. Spoiler some would say that even 1300 years is an underestimate. https://decolonizepalestine.com/myth/palestinians-are-arabs-that-arrived-in-the-7th-century/ Hamas are useful for them, because every time someone talks about the peace process, they can say "but Hamas". What they are doing in Gaza is collective punishment, but I'm not really sure if Israel would want to put settlements there. Many in Israel, would prefer to find a pretext for ethnic cleansing of the West Bank. They certainly aren't giving Abbas or any other Palestinians more power there. Having said that, when you look at some of the countries supporting Israel, you might want to consider what else Gaza has to offer. Spoiler The British Gas Group drilled two wells in 2000: Gaza Marine-1 and Gaza Marine-2. Reserves are estimated by British Gas to be of the order of 1.4 trillion cubic feet, valued at approximately 4 billion dollars. These are the figures made public by British Gas. The size of Palestine's gas reserves could be much larger. https://greenwatchbd.com/conflicts/39408 For those people saying, why can't the people of Gaza become refugees in Egypt, does this mean they'd be safe? Just take a look at what happened in Sabra and Shatila refugee camp when Israel invaded Lebanon in 1982. Edited October 20, 2023 by Letemtalk 3 1
State of Grace. Posted October 20, 2023 Posted October 20, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Anthinos said: Many LGBT+ people who were born there try to get asylum in Israel. Anyone remember the story of the poor gay guy who tried to flee to Israel? His name was Ahmad Abu Marhia. You can hate Israel as much as you want but for LGBT+ people Israel is clearly the best country in the region. There is homophobia in Israel, too. But gays, lesbians and trans people can live their life freely in Israel. I don't care what your opinion about the war is but the left should be honest when it comes to LGBT+ rights and LGBT+ rights and religion. Dicks and poppers for brains. You gays truly have no shame/humanity. Your so called "best country in the region" is bombing Palestinian gays and outing them to their families when they refuse to act as spies. They dont give a **** about LGBTQ rights. Edited October 20, 2023 by State of Grace. 3
Cloröx Posted October 20, 2023 Posted October 20, 2023 11 minutes ago, Anthinos said: Many LGBT+ people who were born there try to get asylum in Israel. Anyone remember the story of the poor gay guy who tried to flee to Israel? His name was Ahmad Abu Marhia. You can hate Israel as much as you want but for LGBT+ people Israel is clearly the best country in the region. There is homophobia in Israel, too. But gays, lesbians and trans people can live their life freely in Israel. I don't care what your opinion about the war is but the left should be honest when it comes to LGBT+ rights and LGBT+ rights and religion. Except LGBTQ+ Palestinians where they get blackmailed + Arabs/Palestinians regardless they are LGBTQ+ are treated as 2nd class citizen 2
welham Posted October 20, 2023 Posted October 20, 2023 They're so ******* evil. There's no other word to describe it. 2
State of Grace. Posted October 20, 2023 Posted October 20, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, welham said: They're so ******* evil. There's no other word to describe it. They're really scrambling. The entire world is seeing the truth on social media despite their endless and massive propaganda. I've been reading your posts from the last few days. I hope you and all Palestinians there are safe. I cant imagine the state of fear and paranoia you all must be living in right now Edited October 20, 2023 by State of Grace. 3
vale9001 Posted October 20, 2023 Posted October 20, 2023 (edited) Shocking, seems like the arabian world agree too for peace and a two state resolution doesn't include the distuction of any state or population. Some of the very "good spirited" "against the devil" people here want the contrary are shaking I guess. Edited October 20, 2023 by vale9001 1
State of Grace. Posted October 20, 2023 Posted October 20, 2023 9 minutes ago, vale9001 said: Shocking, seems like the arabian world agree too for peace and a two state resolution doesn't include the distuction of any state or population. Some of the very "good spirited" "against the devil" people here want the contrary are shaking I guess. Your posts are so transparent 7
Bloodflowers. Posted October 20, 2023 Posted October 20, 2023 12 hours ago, Magic_boXX said: Omg I used to watch her coverage on WION news channel last year but then she got cut and replaced. Nice to see another news network picked her up!
ClashAndBurn Posted October 20, 2023 Posted October 20, 2023 (edited) An ADL researcher has resigned, presumably due to Greenblatt’s blatant warmongering. A letter signed by 411 Congressional staffers calling for a ceasefire to be advocated for has been circulated. Congress is also full to the brim with genocidal warmongers, so will likely fall on deaf ears. Would love to hear how you would unpack either of these @Espresso Edited October 20, 2023 by ClashAndBurn
Communion Posted October 20, 2023 Posted October 20, 2023 3 hours ago, Letemtalk said: Can who put Abbas in power? Israel will do their best to prevent any Palestinian leader in the West Bank from having any real power. The Palestinian Authority only has control over a small part of the West Bank and the real control is always with Israel and the IDF. The PA can put other Palestinians in jail and can't do much other than that. If Biden offered Netanyahu the choice of ethnic cleansing of Palestinians in the West Bank or Gaza, he would pick the West Bank without hesitation, although he would probably use the ancient biblical names, "Judah" and "Samaria". Take a look at any map of Ancient Israel and Gaza isn't really a significant part of the picture in most cases. Israel wants exclusive control of the West Bank, which they occupied in 1967 and have no intention of leaving. They might talk about two states and having no partner for peace, but they have no interest in sharing with the people that have been there for hundreds of years. Hide contents some would say that even 1300 years is an underestimate. https://decolonizepalestine.com/myth/palestinians-are-arabs-that-arrived-in-the-7th-century/ Hamas are useful for them, because every time someone talks about the peace process, they can say "but Hamas". What they are doing in Gaza is collective punishment, but I'm not really sure if Israel would want to put settlements there. Many in Israel, would prefer to find a pretext for ethnic cleansing of the West Bank. They certainly aren't giving Abbas or any other Palestinians more power there. Having said that, when you look at some of the countries supporting Israel, you might want to consider what else Gaza has to offer. Reveal hidden contents The British Gas Group drilled two wells in 2000: Gaza Marine-1 and Gaza Marine-2. Reserves are estimated by British Gas to be of the order of 1.4 trillion cubic feet, valued at approximately 4 billion dollars. These are the figures made public by British Gas. The size of Palestine's gas reserves could be much larger. https://greenwatchbd.com/conflicts/39408 For those people saying, why can't the people of Gaza become refugees in Egypt, does this mean they'd be safe? Just take a look at what happened in Sabra and Shatila refugee camp when Israel invaded Lebanon in 1982. Thank you for this. It really reiterates and brings back important context that much of their violence explicitly has had nothing to do with Hamas, isolated out in Gaza, which Israel essentially views as a concentration camp forced on the borders of what they envision to be the true, predetermined by God, homeland. The video of an old man being ripped from his home by IDF soldiers, carrying out his literal furniture and fridge, later mocking him by throwing his milk on him? In the West Bank. The infamous video of a man with a THICK Brooklyn accent telling a Palestinian woman "if I don't steal your home, someone else is just going to steal it later"? In East Jerusalem. Seeing Israeli settlers take literal pitchforks and torches - including members of parliament - and begin running into Palestinian villages and burning homes down just this year in what is now understood to have been modern-day pogroms? In the West Bank. This has never been about or will ever be about Hamas. The violence is rooted in the sociopathic ideology of Zionism and its ultimate goals of settler colonialism and the kind of death and de-population required to make those supremacist fantasies come true. 6
ClashAndBurn Posted October 20, 2023 Posted October 20, 2023 I wish we could get to see the dissent cable roasting Biden and Blinken for their warmongering and support of genocide
Chemist Posted October 20, 2023 Posted October 20, 2023 13 hours ago, nooniebao said: Wow Biden admin really taking a massive hit
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