wastedpotential Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 Oh 1989Sus, don't stomp over everyone this way, you're too powerful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enrique523 Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 2 hours ago, CovalentBondage said: I mean it's not like yall are stanning for the quality 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisTheLoner Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 Coming for 1M+ sales debut just from pre-orders alone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enrique523 Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Raspberries said: Red is her critical crown jewel and 1989 is her commercial crown jewel. They are 2 albums that are beloved by large groups of people. The GP doesn't use reputation like that Actually, they kind of do. You guys need to realize that Reputation is nowhere near as hated in real life as you think it is. It's been doing around 7M daily streams for MONTHS now. Just because an annoying vocal minority hate that album online doesn't mean everyone feel the same 2 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Wolf Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 That cover is god awful....what was she thinking? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perfectillusion204 Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 Wow this is INSANE. Literally doing more than every pop girl’s NEW albums Her power is honestly scary. She has to be so careful with everything she says bc she knows the swifties will do ANYTHING for her. I’m so glad I get to witness this in real time instead of history in 50 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorenzo22 Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 6 minutes ago, Enrique523 said: Actually, they kind of do. You guys need to realize that Reputation is nowhere near as hated in real life as you think it is. It's been doing around 7M daily streams for MONTHS now. Just because an annoying vocal minority hate that album online doesn't mean everyone feel the same went to a swiftie meet up a few weeks ago and many said rep was their favorite era (not album tho) and i've seen so many people online say that reputation was their favorite part from the eras tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enrique523 Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Lorenzo22 said: went to a swiftie meet up a few weeks ago and many said rep was their favorite era (not album tho) and i've seen so many people online say that reputation was their favorite part from the eras tour Not a surprise honestly. It's kind of scary that some Swifties hate that album so much that they WANT it to fail And as i said, they're just a vocal minority but they want to gaslight you into thinking otherwise. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CovalentBondage Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 21 minutes ago, Juanny said: I at least speak for myself when I say, I actually wish she was a bit less popular. That way I could go and see her live... we stan for the decades of music that we grew up with and was the soundtracks to some of our tough times such as breakups and the pandemic. Maybe it's not music for you, which I can respect, but lots of us actually have a deep connection to her music since the Fearless era in 2008 and are not "success stans". (: I was just tossing some light shade. Clearly people can't handle. Like she is so beyond successful there's no need to feel insecure. I do understand my taste is not gonna match everyone for sure. I'm happy for y'all. I will say that I am confused in the level of success she has achieved. Maybe I'm out of touch but she is probably the biggest artist we've seen in terms of numbers. Like no one in history has had 6 shows in Toronto the way she is doing. My question is does her output as an artist match this level of success. I've listened to her music and I just don't understand how she is so huge. Like it's pretty unprecedented what's she's achieved. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yonsé Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 the people were WAITING for this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brazil Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 Im guessing it will sell 6M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidnightsAtPeace Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 1 hour ago, CovalentBondage said: I mean it's not like yall are stanning for the quality we have the quality and the numbers 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1989 Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 Ugh, this is beyond insanity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PoisonedIvy Posted August 10, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 10, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, CovalentBondage said: I was just tossing some light shade. Clearly people can't handle. Like she is so beyond successful there's no need to feel insecure. I do understand my taste is not gonna match everyone for sure. I'm happy for y'all. I will say that I am confused in the level of success she has achieved. Maybe I'm out of touch but she is probably the biggest artist we've seen in terms of numbers. Like no one in history has had 6 shows in Toronto the way she is doing. My question is does her output as an artist match this level of success. I've listened to her music and I just don't understand how she is so huge. Like it's pretty unprecedented what's she's achieved. Yes, it really does. I know y’all like to call her basic or bland but what y’all fail to realize is what she actually is is -relatable.- and not in the bad way y’all try to downplay other artists for. In the way that nearly every human being on this planet no matter their age, race, cultural background, etc. could find a song in her discography that explains an emotion they’ve experienced in both a vividly detailed yet broadly familiar way. She uses a lot of sensory details in her music — sights, sounds, smells — and a lot of references to time, dates, seasons, etc. And those are key facets to the human experience. Memories are some of the most powerful components of the human psyche, feelings as well, and Taylor combines memories with feelings in a way a lot of other artists don’t do. Most pop artists tend to write about the here and the now — “I’m going out dancing, let’s live it up, this is the summer of our lives” type **** (those obviously aren’t real lyrics, just generic platitudes) but Taylor, outside of the few commercial singles meant to have generic mass appeal, has album cuts with experiences that everyone can relate to: growing up and moving out, falling in love, experiencing a first heartbreak, appreciation for your mother, feeling alone and trying to find your place in this world, self esteem, etc. it’s not that other artists don’t write about experiences like this — they all have songs and albums tied to their personal lives — but Taylor has a masterful balance of writing specifically about her own experiences while also having lyrics that are applicable to many, many different people. Most importantly though, in my mind, on top of everything else: some artists are good at writing “basic” pop songs (Katy Perry, for example) and some are great at writing introspective, “deep” music (Lana del Rey, for example) but Taylor is one of the VERY few who can combine both. Someone with both a 1989 and a folklore in their discography is basically unheard of *with Madonna being a notable exception, the first of this hybrid kind. Fittingly so, that they are two of the biggest women in music history. But seriously think about it. In what world could Fiona Apple ever release a Good Girl Gone Bad? In what world could Ariana Grande ever release a Hounds of Love? Taylor is the first woman since Madonna capable of walking that fine line between commercial appeal and artistic growth. Edited August 10, 2023 by WeFoundTrouble 26 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidnightsAtPeace Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 4 minutes ago, WeFoundTrouble said: Yes, it really does. I know y’all like to call her basic or bland but what y’all fail to realize is what she actually is is -relatable.- and not in the bad way y’all try to downplay other artists for. In the way that nearly every human being on this planet no matter their age, race, cultural background, etc. could find a song in her discography that explains an emotion they’ve experienced in both a vividly detailed yet broadly familiar way. She uses a lot of sensory details in her music — sights, sounds, smells — and a lot of references to time, dates, seasons, etc. And those are key facets to the human experience. Memories are some of the most powerful components of the human psyche, feelings as well, and Taylor combines memories with feelings in a way a lot of other artists don’t do. Most pop artists tend to write about the here and the now — “I’m going out dancing, let’s live it up, this is the summer of our lives” type **** (those obviously aren’t real lyrics, just generic platitudes) but Taylor, outside of the few commercial singles meant to have generic mass appeal, has album cuts with experiences that everyone can relate to: growing up and moving out, falling in love, experiencing a first heartbreak, appreciation for your mother, feeling alone and trying to find your place in this world, self esteem, etc. it’s not that other artists don’t write about experiences like this — they all have songs and albums tied to their personal lives — but Taylor has a masterful balance of writing specifically about her own experiences while also having lyrics that are applicable to many, many different people. Most importantly though, in my mind, on top of everything else: some artists are good at writing “basic” pop songs (Katy Perry, for example) and some are great at writing introspective, “deep” music (Lana del Rey, for example) but Taylor is one of the VERY few who can combine both. Someone with both a 1989 and a folklore in their discography is basically unheard of. In what world could Fiona Apple ever release a Good Girl Gone Bad? In what world could Ariana Grande ever release a Hounds of Love? Taylor is the first woman since like, Madonna capable of walking that fine line between commercial appeal and artistic growth. Thank you 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enrique523 Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 1 hour ago, WeFoundTrouble said: Yes, it really does. I know y’all like to call her basic or bland but what y’all fail to realize is what she actually is is -relatable.- and not in the bad way y’all try to downplay other artists for. In the way that nearly every human being on this planet no matter their age, race, cultural background, etc. could find a song in her discography that explains an emotion they’ve experienced in both a vividly detailed yet broadly familiar way. She uses a lot of sensory details in her music — sights, sounds, smells — and a lot of references to time, dates, seasons, etc. And those are key facets to the human experience. Memories are some of the most powerful components of the human psyche, feelings as well, and Taylor combines memories with feelings in a way a lot of other artists don’t do. Most pop artists tend to write about the here and the now — “I’m going out dancing, let’s live it up, this is the summer of our lives” type **** (those obviously aren’t real lyrics, just generic platitudes) but Taylor, outside of the few commercial singles meant to have generic mass appeal, has album cuts with experiences that everyone can relate to: growing up and moving out, falling in love, experiencing a first heartbreak, appreciation for your mother, feeling alone and trying to find your place in this world, self esteem, etc. it’s not that other artists don’t write about experiences like this — they all have songs and albums tied to their personal lives — but Taylor has a masterful balance of writing specifically about her own experiences while also having lyrics that are applicable to many, many different people. Most importantly though, in my mind, on top of everything else: some artists are good at writing “basic” pop songs (Katy Perry, for example) and some are great at writing introspective, “deep” music (Lana del Rey, for example) but Taylor is one of the VERY few who can combine both. Someone with both a 1989 and a folklore in their discography is basically unheard of. In what world could Fiona Apple ever release a Good Girl Gone Bad? In what world could Ariana Grande ever release a Hounds of Love? Taylor is the first woman since like, Madonna capable of walking that fine line between commercial appeal and artistic growth. Amazing, couldn't have said it better OTHs really need to read your post and maybe they'll start to understand why Taylor is destroying everyone else right now. And no, it's not because she's "basic" and "white". If that was the case then every single white girl would be slaying the charts and that's clearly not the case. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klein Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 5 minutes ago, WeFoundTrouble said: Yes, it really does. I know y’all like to call her basic or bland but what y’all fail to realize is what she actually is is -relatable.- and not in the bad way y’all try to downplay other artists for. In the way that nearly every human being on this planet no matter their age, race, cultural background, etc. could find a song in her discography that explains an emotion they’ve experienced in both a vividly detailed yet broadly familiar way. She uses a lot of sensory details in her music — sights, sounds, smells — and a lot of references to time, dates, seasons, etc. And those are key facets to the human experience. Memories are some of the most powerful components of the human psyche, feelings as well, and Taylor combines memories with feelings in a way a lot of other artists don’t do. Most pop artists tend to write about the here and the now — “I’m going out dancing, let’s live it up, this is the summer of our lives” type **** (those obviously aren’t real lyrics, just generic platitudes) but Taylor, outside of the few commercial singles meant to have generic mass appeal, has album cuts with experiences that everyone can relate to: growing up and moving out, falling in love, experiencing a first heartbreak, appreciation for your mother, feeling alone and trying to find your place in this world, self esteem, etc. it’s not that other artists don’t write about experiences like this — they all have songs and albums tied to their personal lives — but Taylor has a masterful balance of writing specifically about her own experiences while also having lyrics that are applicable to many, many different people. Most importantly though, in my mind, on top of everything else: some artists are good at writing “basic” pop songs (Katy Perry, for example) and some are great at writing introspective, “deep” music (Lana del Rey, for example) but Taylor is one of the VERY few who can combine both. Someone with both a 1989 and a folklore in their discography is basically unheard of *with Madonna being a notable exception, the first of this hybrid kind. Fittingly so, that they are two of the biggest women in music history. But seriously think about it. In what world could Fiona Apple ever release a Good Girl Gone Bad? In what world could Ariana Grande ever release a Hounds of Love? Taylor is the first woman since Madonna capable of walking that fine line between commercial appeal and artistic growth. Amazing post. Perfectly said 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidnightsAtPeace Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 What if I told you I think TS11 is going to do incredibly MASSIVE numbers, and by massive numbers I mean unheard-of numbers in the last 7 years. perhaps a 2-3M debut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoganai Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 She’s (sadly) the last standing pop girl around. Still releasing successful music and tours. Bravo to her, not a fan but i’m impressed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starchild Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, Enrique523 said: Amazing, couldn't have said it better OTHs really need to read your post and maybe they'll start to understand why Taylor is destroying everyone else right now. And no, it's not because she's "basic" and "white". If that was the case then every single white girl would be slaying the charts and that's clearly not the case. As if they would read. Most they would say is "grll i ain't reading all that, it ain't that serious" when they're the ones that started a discussion in the first place 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goaty Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 14 minutes ago, CovalentBondage said: I will say that I am confused in the level of success she has achieved. Maybe I'm out of touch but she is probably the biggest artist we've seen in terms of numbers. Like no one in history has had 6 shows in Toronto the way she is doing. My question is does her output as an artist match this level of success. I've listened to her music and I just don't understand how she is so huge. Like it's pretty unprecedented what's she's achieved. This is an extreme oversimplification, but Taylor’s success isn’t because her music is “good”; it’s because her music is universal. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enrique523 Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 1 hour ago, MidnightsAtPeace said: What if I told you I think TS11 is going to do incredibly MASSIVE numbers, and by massive numbers I mean unheard-of numbers in the last 7 years. perhaps a 2-3M debut Oh it's absolutely possible. She did above 1.5M for Midnights and that was BEFORE the phenomenon that is the Eras Tour. Add to that the massive success 1989 TV alone will have and yeah, TS11 will have astronomical numbers, it'll be her most anticipated album EVER. And all that nearly 20 years into her career 1 hour ago, Starchild said: As if they would read. Most they would say is "grll i ain't reading all that, it ain't that serious" when they're the ones that started a discussion in the first place Oh yeah, for sure. OTHs are some of the dumbest people i've ever seen online and i'm not even saying that because i'm a Swiftie. I'm saying that because their arguments NEVER make any sense and they just keep repeating the same talking points that have been debunked countless times. They're not interested in learning anything, they just want to hate her for the sake of it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Walk_Away21 Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 50 minutes ago, Enrique523 said: Actually, they kind of do. You guys need to realize that Reputation is nowhere near as hated in real life as you think it is. It's been doing around 7M daily streams for MONTHS now. Just because an annoying vocal minority hate that album online doesn't mean everyone feel the same DRAG THEM! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danes Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 That one Chromatican getting stomped on. OT: Is that the official cover? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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