base talk Taylor, Gaga, Bey, Rih, Adele - biggest?

[Miss Americana]

16 minutes ago, airplane said:

I would respond to the rest of your quote but i’ll probably get banned for going too far..

Oh please... the fact that yall have to resort to SYG antics to get a lick in while I just need to ask yall to name any talent Rih has and the jokes start flowing.

"Ear for hits", "charisma", "billionaire", "eye for visuals", "voice for radio", "she cannot dance or perform but she can connect with crowds", "she struggles to sing because weak singing makes it more emotional"...

[Feanor]

2 minutes ago, airplane said:

She was struggling to score a hit while Rihanna scored several global smashes during the same time (including Taylor’s biggest hit to date in Europe). She was also averaging around 5M spotify streams during the time, her albums were also underperforming compared to its predecessors. Reputation was also constantly leaving Billboard. She only topped the IFPI chart because reputation was frontloaded and dropped 80% in sales in its second week. On the contrary, ANTI was leaked and had 1.4M copies given away for free (which did not count towards the IFPI charts)

So even with her "several global hits", Rihanna still failed to chart as high as Taylor did with all her non-hits and front-loaded albums? That tells us all we need to know about Rihanna's state of her career in 2016. No matter which way you try to move the goalpost, making it to #3 on an official, annual & global chart measuring global consumption will always factually and objectively be bigger than just making it to #8.

 

So if Taylor was spiraling downwards despite making it that high, Rihanna's career was in freefall… going by your logic of course.   

[#ADOU]

2 minutes ago, Miss Americana said:

Oh please... the fact that yall have to resort to SYG antics to get a lick in while I just need to ask yall to name any talent Rih has and the jokes start flowing.

"Ear for hits", "charisma", "billionaire", "eye for visuals", "voice for radio", "she cannot dance or perform but she can connect with crowds", "she struggles to sing because weak singing makes it more emotional"...

A Swift Stan talking about talent   the audacity.

 

Rihanna CAN sing and dance (better than Taylor that's for sure), and nothing you say will change that.

[burninredhot]

Taylor

Rihanna

Adele

Beyoncé

Gaga

[ImsoLOUD]

21 minutes ago, byzantium said:

Why do Rihanna fans have such a hard time coping?  Rihanna is the second biggest female artist to debut this century and one of the top 10 ever.  That is incredible. 

Did you miss the Swiftie post that mentioned Rihanna originally?

 

5 hours ago, Taylucifer said:

genuinely curious if y’all really think Rihanna could surpass Taylor if Rihanna released as much as her

oh wait of course you didn’t you also responded to it 

 

I don’t understand why some of you open up discussions if all you’re going to do is scream “meltdown11!” and run to the mods when someone responds  

Edited August 8, 2023 by ImsoLOUD

[Miss Americana]

24 minutes ago, #ADOU said:

Rihanna CAN sing and dance (better than Taylor that's for sure).

Is that so?

Then why is she panned by the critics and the GP for putting on horrible performance?

Critic Liveratings:

Taylor Swift - 99% (The highest rated performer by critics) (The only artist with untarnished touring reputation other than Beyonce)

https://www.liverate.com/artists/taylor-swift

Rihanna - 72% (The lowest score for an 00s MPG)

https://www.liverate.com/artists/rihanna

 

GP attendance:

Eras Tour: Highest grossing tour of all time; will outearn Miss Fenty's networth with ticket sales only let alone the merch sales.

Anti Tour: Empty stadiums all over the world.

Edited August 8, 2023 by Miss Americana

[airplane]

6 minutes ago, Miss Americana said:

Is that so?

Then why is she panned by the critics and the GP for putting on horrible performance?

Liveratings:

Taylor Swift - 99% (The highest rated performer by critics) (The only artist with untarnished touring reputation other than Beyonce)

https://www.liverate.com/artists/taylor-swift

Rihanna - 72% (The lowest score for an MPG)

https://www.liverate.com/artists/rihanna

The absolute brainlessness to think those are actual critic reviews and not tabloid’ fanfictions 😂😂

 

And let’s not talk about talent please when Taylor has the most bland and monotone voice in the industry, is a stiff dancer and reeks of mediocrity all around. She cannot sustain a note to save her life or execute a dance move without looking like a embarrassment. It’s a fact that Taylor does not have a single iconic or memorable live performance in historih 

Edited August 8, 2023 by airplane

[Miss Americana]

4 minutes ago, airplane said:

It’s a fact that Taylor does not have a single iconic or memorable live performance in historih 

A 1.5 - 1.7B grossing tour that everyone and their mama wished to attend that it almost caused the entire destruction of the touring industry >>>>>> 

[#ADOU]

15 minutes ago, Miss Americana said:

Is that so?

Then why is she panned by the critics and the GP for putting on horrible performance?

Liveratings:

Taylor Swift - 99% (The highest rated performer by critics) (The only artist with untarnished touring reputation other than Beyonce)

https://www.liverate.com/artists/taylor-swift

Rihanna - 72% (The lowest score for an MPG)

https://www.liverate.com/artists/rihanna

This has nothing to do with raw talent.  Taylor always has the best tour productions to... compensate for the lack of talent. Beyoncé being the only artist above her is a clear reflection of this. 

 

As I said Rihanna is a better singer and dancer than Taylor and anybody on this forum would agree. 

Edited August 8, 2023 by #ADOU
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[#ADOU]

1 minute ago, Miss Americana said:

A 1.5 - 1.7B grossing tour that tasteless children  wished to attend.

Fixed it 

[istan4badgalriri]

2 hours ago, Headlock said:

6th vs 8th album? 

Yeah it’s funny you say this because when swifties compare Taylor’s numbers vs. ___ they don’t take into account the quantity/output. 

[lonnie]

Y'all never get tired of this? It's been three days of this

[istan4badgalriri]

18 minutes ago, Miss Americana said:

Is that so?

Then why is she panned by the critics and the GP for putting on horrible performance?

Critic Liveratings:

Taylor Swift - 99% (The highest rated performer by critics) (The only artist with untarnished touring reputation other than Beyonce)

https://www.liverate.com/artists/taylor-swift

Rihanna - 72% (The lowest score for an 00s MPG)

https://www.liverate.com/artists/rihanna

 

GP attendance:

Eras Tour: Highest grossing tour of all time; will outearn Miss Fenty's networth with ticket sales only let alone the merch sales.

Anti Tour: Empty stadiums all over the world.

The lies y’all resort to… 😭

 

The GP literally ate up her Super Bowl performance (and still is) and it just got nominated for 5 Emmys. Her last tour had positive reviews from critics and most of her award show performances got praised by critics too (especially since 2012). Lmao

[The Music Industry]

4 minutes ago, istan4badgalriri said:

Yeah it’s funny you say this because when swifties compare Taylor’s numbers vs. ___ they don’t take into account the quantity/output. 

Taylor is dominating so much that you could literally remove 80% of her entire discography and she would still be the most streamed female artist everyday. Not sure what you're trying here

 

Daily streams from August 6, 2023

1989 (2014) and Lover (2019) = 23.1M

2nd top streamed female artist = 21M

 

Like... 

 

[lonnie]

1 minute ago, istan4badgalriri said:

The lies y’all resort to… 😭

 

The GP literally ate up her Super Bowl performance (and still is) and it just got nominated for 5 Emmys. Her last tour had positive reviews from critics and most of her award show performances got praised by critics too (especially since 2012). Lmao

That swiftie making comments about Rih's vocals should have been where this thread stopped. They're delusional and bitter have nothing better to do despite everything their fave offers them than to get on this site everyday and stir something up to argue and crave for engagement. I wish we'd all just ignore them en masse. They're neither funny nor witty nor particularly interesting, just merely a nuisance. 

[Raspberries]

11 minutes ago, istan4badgalriri said:

Yeah it’s funny you say this because when swifties compare Taylor’s numbers vs. ___ they don’t take into account the quantity/output. 

Talking about quantity/output as if Rihanna wasn't releasing a single every 3 months and an album every 12 months from 2009-2013  

[Raspberries]

Anyway overall the answer is 

 

Taylor > Beyoncé > Rihanna > Adele > Gaga

[suneclipse121]

Gaga is dead last. She sticks out in a bad way like she’s not even supposed to be on this list nnn

[lonnie]

2 minutes ago, Raspberries said:

Talking about quantity/output as if Rihanna wasn't releasing a single every 3 months and an album every 12 months from 2009-2013  

Rihanna 2009 - 2013 : 4 albums

Taylor Swift 2019 - 2023 : 8 albums

 

They're not the same.

 

[Darkgalord]

Are we taking touring stats/power into account? 

That metric alone places Rihanna at the bottom. I love her but it's true. 

Edited August 8, 2023 by Darkgalord

[#ADOU]

4 minutes ago, Raspberries said:

Talking about quantity/output as if Rihanna wasn't releasing a single every 3 months and an album every 12 months from 2009-2013  

Taylor released 7 albums in four years 2019-2023  Stop projecting. 

[Raspberries]

Just now, lonnie said:

Rihanna 2009 - 2013 : 4 albums

Taylor Swift 2019 - 2023 : 8 albums

 

They're not the same.

 

You counting re-recordings as albums  

 

Taylor 2019-2023: 4 studio albums

Rihanna 2009-2012: 4 studio albums 

 

You can go ahead and count the re-recordings but then you have to bring up the 2539482 McFeatures Rihanna also did in that time period that pad her stats because all of those albums had 0 longevity (at least states side)  

[Raspberries]

2 hours ago, airplane said:

The question in the OP was very vague and broad. Again, your fave flopped outside of music and her upcoming movie and directing endeavour will also tank so it’s understandable why you wouldn’t wanna discuss that.

 

Taylor should be very grateful Rihanna gave her the biggest hit of her career in Europe + her biggest hit in America in a decade (TIWYCF)

 

A quick look at the certifications for ANTI, Reputation and Lover for the album + singles (Work, ME! and LWYMD) would show how ANTI was bigger in every metric except touring. 

Certifications AGAIN? 

[Cruel Summer]

1. Taylor

2. Beyonce

3. Adele

4. Rihanna

5. Gaga

 

Rough guess. #1 is pretty clear and definitive though.

[lonnie]

2 minutes ago, Raspberries said:

You counting re-recordings as albums  

 

Taylor 2019-2023: 4 studio albums

Rihanna 2009-2012: 4 studio albums 

 

You can go ahead and count the re-recordings but then you have to bring up the 2539482 McFeatures Rihanna also did in that time period that pad her stats because all of those albums had 0 longevity (at least states side)  

Acting like those re-recordings aren't full albums, one with a whole short film that was getting Oscars campaigning PR (and failed to get the nom). An album that contains several tracks is a lot more than a feature single here and there

 

Y'all count the achievements those albums get but suddenly now they're not albums that should be counted?