ATRL Moderator khalyan Posted May 12 ATRL Moderator Share Posted May 12 It wouldn’t have made a huge difference overall, but the camera error in Austria’s performance during the best part of the song probably cost them a handful of televotes. If I was the Austrian delegation, I’d be pissed 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illia Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 The people who bet on Croatia must be mad as hell rn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycho Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 4 minutes ago, mokitsu said: Bye I thought it was my stream buffering She demands an apology and immediate top 10 placement. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurem Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 4 minutes ago, khalyan said: It wouldn't have made a huge difference overall, but the camera error in Austria's performance during the best part of the song probably cost them a handful of televotes. If I was the Austrian delegation, I'd be pissed tbh I was more impressed with the WE WILL RAVE in the backdrop 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komet Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 4 minutes ago, khalyan said: It wouldn't have made a huge difference overall, but the camera error in Austria's performance during the best part of the song probably cost them a handful of televotes. If I was the Austrian delegation, I'd be pissed tbh that steadicam shot while they're throwing her around randomly was not good anyway, that wider shot kinda outserved since you can't see how messy it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Tea Is Green Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 Not the jury vote spiraling, with France flopping vocally who even was gonna steal Nemo's 12s? Yall can blame countries for having no competitive songs or ruining them with an awful staging (looking at Italy) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velocity Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 4 minutes ago, byzantium said: Are y'all still complaining about the Juries when the Juries were the only people this year making sensible decisions and saved the ESC? what unsensible choices have eurovision fans made this year in your opinion? is it our fault that the EBU allowed terror state israel in and that zionists saw it as a perfect propaganda opportunity? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwendolyn Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 (edited) that delegation was menaces to society. Edited May 12 by Gwendolyn 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATRL Moderator khalyan Posted May 12 ATRL Moderator Share Posted May 12 1 minute ago, Komet said: tbh that steadicam shot while they're throwing her around randomly was not good anyway, that wider shot kinda outserved since you can't see how messy it is The locals would have eaten the lifts up easily, don’t lie to yourself 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristie Kuwa Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 1 minute ago, Green Tea Is Green said: Not the jury vote spiraling, with France flopping vocally who even was gonna steal Nemo's 12s? Yall can blame countries for having no competitive songs or ruining them with an awful staging (looking at Italy) Exactly - Switzerland was serving Jury bait to the T (super impressive vocal arrangement, 3 different genres in one, good/modern storytelling) and only France stood a chance to get more votes, but he ****** it up in the jury presentations. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlikely Winner Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 2 hours ago, KillingYourCareer said: No one cares about juries. Preach! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATRL Moderator khalyan Posted May 12 ATRL Moderator Share Posted May 12 If Israel is out next year, and Germany leaves as a result of that, do you think the EBU would consider making Netherlands the replacement “big 5” member? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kummercell Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 9 minutes ago, Imagine Dragon said: Countries with a 100% qualification rate in the 2020s: Armenia Finland Lithuania Norway Portugal Serbia Sweden Switzerland Ukraine Out after this year: Belgium Moldova the sabbatical year Portugal took in 2016 to reorganize Festival da Canção did wonders for them. This is a country that qualified TWICE in the 2010s, and now they've gotten 4 consecutive finals + 2 top 10 placements (before their win in 2017 their last top 10 was in 1996) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwendolyn Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 3 minutes ago, khalyan said: If Israel is out next year, and Germany leaves as a result of that, do you think the EBU would consider making Netherlands the replacement "big 5" member? I don't think the Netherlands will come back next year especially with how the EBU treated Avotros, Joost and the Dutch Jury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATRL Moderator khalyan Posted May 12 ATRL Moderator Share Posted May 12 15 minutes ago, Imagine Dragon said: Countries with a 100% qualification rate in the 2020s: Armenia Finland Lithuania Norway Portugal Serbia Sweden Switzerland Ukraine Out after this year: Belgium Moldova I’m sensing Armenia, Norway, Finland, and Serbia the next countries to miss out on qualifying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATRL Moderator khalyan Posted May 12 ATRL Moderator Share Posted May 12 Just now, Gwendolyn said: I don't think the Netherlands will come back next year especially with how the EBU treated Avotros, Joost and the Dutch Jury Well, if Martin and the executives resign, I am wondering if being promised a return as a big 5 member would be enough incentive to return? Otherwise I agree I wouldn’t want to return if I was them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATRL Moderator khalyan Posted May 12 ATRL Moderator Share Posted May 12 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kummercell Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 4 minutes ago, khalyan said: If Israel is out next year, and Germany leaves as a result of that, do you think the EBU would consider making Netherlands the replacement "big 5" member? I think we would just go back to the big 4 era tbh, unless making Netherlands one of the big 5 guarantees a Dutch return Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velocity Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 where is martin österdahls resignation? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funhouse Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komet Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 I have a feeling 2025 is gonna have the least amount of countries in the last 20 years 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kummercell Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 Just now, Komet said: I have a feeling 2025 is gonna have the least amount of countries in the last 20 years one step closer to San Marino Città 2026 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suilen Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 I just found out that icon alyona alyona represented Ukraine, god, I'm so out of loop. She's been that ***** since Rybky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kummercell Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Komet said: I have a feeling 2025 is gonna have the least amount of countries in the last 20 years but yeah I do think we'll see a bunch of countries simply not going there I know we talk about Israel being kicked out but that will simply not happen. The European Union is politically aligned with the American Empire and the EBU wouldn't do anything that could compromise that in the slightest way. if the news about Spain and Ireland officially recognizing Palestine this month are true, I think we could see both of them not participating for political reasons + a bunch of poorer/smaller countries not participating because Switzerland is famously the most expensive country in the world Edited May 12 by Kummercell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nasa Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 17 minutes ago, khalyan said: If Israel is out next year, and Germany leaves as a result of that, do you think the EBU would consider making Netherlands the replacement "big 5" member? It should be Ukraine based on quality & talent but without having to pay money 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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