event Eurovision Song Contest 2024 | Switzerland wins!

[POPTART]

1 minute ago, abelfenty said:

Are you not embarrassed? All week you were claiming you had "tea" that Switzerland's odds were "manipulated" and yet they still won. Take your L and move on

Embarrassed about what? I claimed that I had the tea once, and it could still very well be true after all.

 

They were 4th in semi and 5th in the final by public vote, only to win thanks to massive jury support decided by 200 people.

 

If you don't see an issue with that, that's on you.

[Pendulum]

4 minutes ago, abelfenty said:

Are you not embarrassed? All week you were claiming you had "tea" that Switzerland's odds were "manipulated" and yet they still won. Take your L and move on

What's embarrassing is Nemo winning whilst being 5th with the public

[illia]

5 minutes ago, Pendulum said:

What's embarrassing is Nemo winning whilst being 5th with the public

The fact that Armenia scored more than Nemo in the semi is funny

 

[nasa]

8 minutes ago, Pendulum said:

What's embarrassing is Nemo winning whilst being 5th with the public

Key word winning

 

[abelfenty]

10 minutes ago, POPTART said:

Embarrassed about what? I claimed that I had the tea once, and it could still very well be true after all.

 

They were 4th in semi and 5th in the final by public vote, only to win thanks to massive jury support decided by 200 people.

 

If you don't see an issue with that, that's on you.

I don't see an issue with that because it's been a 50/50 split for about 15 years now. You're supposed to appeal to both the jury and televoters to win overall. There's no guarantee the televote winner will be the winner overall

[POPTART]

4 minutes ago, abelfenty said:

I don't see an issue with that because it's been a 50/50 split for about 15 years now. You're supposed to appeal to both the jury and televoters to win overall. There's no guarantee the televote winner will be the winner overall

In an ideal situation, I agree.

 

However, if you reverse the score - say you're #1 in the televote and #5 in jury - you would be very unlikely to win this way. 

And that's the issue.

[chessguy99]

1 hour ago, Hurem said:

2023: *people angry at the juries giving Loreen so many points that it's hard for anyone to catch up*

2024: *juries giving Nemo even more points than they gave to Loreen*

 

I wonder if there will be an outcry to eliminate the jury altogether. Not only did the jury winner beat out the the televote winner, this year they did it by only being fifth in the televote. I've found only one instance of the winner not being first or second in the televote. That was 2015 where Sweden was 3rd in televote, but dominated the jury vote. I sort of remember that after that year people started to question if the jury had to much influence in determining the winner.

[igninton]

50 minutes ago, Hurem said:

I wouldn't say Croatia was underrated per se, though the rankings by Belgium, Spain, and Portugal, placing it 18th, 19th, and 20th respectively, don't sit right with me.

I've seen people mentioning this a lot and it literally happens every year with some of the most successful acts. Italy's juries put Chanel last or second to last in 2022, for example. 

[Kristie Kuwa]

Lbr for once:

 

Tattoo + The Code as winners >>>>>>> Cha Cha and Rim Ting Taga Dim Dim or whatever that song is called

 

Like, u cant deny the quality of the winning songs like that which actually give the Eurovision credibility and dont turn it into a joke competition

Edited May 13, 2024 by Kristie Kuwa

[Fevesy]

The surge in odds happened after their first televised performance where they sang the song perfectly from start to finish while running and jumping around the stage in a terrible outfit. It was obvious from that point on that they'd be a contender and the potential jury winner.

 

I bet on Switzerland when I saw one of their TikTok's where they hit the high notes/operatic part at the end which was a couple of weeks beforehand and the odds were still eh but still 4th

 

[zzmyth]

PRETTY DECENT numbers for Nemo.

 

I didn't expect them to be that high tbh.

[Pendulum]

well to be fair, The Code is much more sonically challenging and unique compared to RTTD with its pirated FL Studio production

 

[greeneyedsoul]

Spotify UK

#64 Doomsday Blue
#164 Dizzy

 

[illia]

I wonder if RTTG's almost win encourages other countries to keep trying and sending Cha Cha Cha's and Rim Tim Tagi DIm's copies next year

 

[Benjamin]

It's not the Jury's fault that there were barely any good songs submitted to the competition this year or last. It's not like there were many options for the juries to pick from, maybe if countries started sending good songs again the jury scores would be more spread out.

 

(Though Ireland deserved the jury praise this year and France last year, much more than the songs they decided to go for.)

 

[Hurem]

I don't think most of you realize that Rim Tim Tagi Dim wasn't written for Eurovision, it was never meant to be another Cha Cha Cha. Baby Lasagna himself said he wrote the song to be a filler track on the album and his friend convinced him to submit it to Dora. The song happened to be fun and y'all automatically labeled it a Cha Cha Cha 2.0 or a joke entry. There is a very simplified understanding of music and genres for anything that's not a basic pop girl song within the ESC community.

[BOOM!]

11 minutes ago, Hurem said:

I don't think most of you realize that Rim Tim Tagi Dim wasn't written for Eurovision, it was never meant to be another Cha Cha Cha. Baby Lasagna himself said he wrote the song to be a filler track on the album and his friend convinced him to submit it to Dora. The song happened to be fun and y'all automatically labeled it a Cha Cha Cha 2.0 or a joke entry. There is a very simplified understanding of music and genres for anything that's not a basic pop girl song within the ESC community.

The funniest thing is, it doesn't even sound like Cha Cha Cha, they are two different songs and different genres. 

[zzmyth]

3 minutes ago, BOOM! said:

The funniest thing is, it doesn't even sound like Cha Cha Cha, they are two different songs and different genres. 

the songs are very different...

 

but the general vibe is very similar.

[fa77ot]

 

 

 

[Komet]

59 minutes ago, Kristie Kuwa said:

Like, u cant deny the quality of the winning songs like that which actually give the Eurovision credibility and dont turn it into a joke competition

the competition is turning into a joke and losing credibility exactly because juries are handpicking winners and the public vote is just for show; if you can't see that, you're just delusional. nobody in the wider audience gives a **** about perceived quality of the winner - all they see is jury shitting on them and their favorite entry.

[ChrispyBelievix]

3 hours ago, ChrispyBelievix said:

She also announced a new EP for this summer, that'll be more like ZARI. 

turns out "EP this summer" is... tomorrow!

 

https://presave.umusic.com/p-o-p?fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAaZfd4023ZQd5i_m2BRfy9DLqmq5-8jbgqaOnxxalep1CTSjgn-ZqCrB4mw_aem_AYqCNxBJB8Dy1q1YOaRBE93Zv3AEmpZfEh8Pj6_X7pVZB351kpujYIPICgYMCR7ZQZLNIxkk6qAzZaiLIe5RExi7

 

 

"P.O.P. 🇬🇷 (EP)" by Marina Satti is coming

 

 

 

[velocity]

i'm tired of people acting like the code is some sort of mucial masterpiece. the lyrics are basic and switching from singing to rapping isn't nearly as impressive as people are trying to make it out to be. the music itself is nice but it's pretty much just like any other song on the radio lmao

[tost1]

The only Ukrainian song that deserved to win

 

[fa77ot]

1 minute ago, tost1 said:

The only Ukrainian song that deserved to win

 

[Kristie Kuwa]

10 minutes ago, Komet said:

the competition is turning into a joke and losing credibility exactly because juries are handpicking winners and the public vote is just for show; if you can't see that, you're just delusional. nobody in the wider audience gives a **** about perceived quality of the winner - all they see is jury shitting on them and their favorite entry.

U clearly havent followed the reputation of the eurovision starting with the 2010s. It only recently picked up in relevance and prestige again thanks to songs winning that were elevated