base talk Can black artist get away with less than mediocre vocals like Taylor?

[Squall]

Don't you guys put Normani (who can't sing) on a pedestal?

Also, I didn't know Rihanna made her name on her amazing vocals  

[Icarus]

1 minute ago, airplane said:

The tragic vocals in question were those of Taylor’s on TIWYCF which made Calvin fly out and fetch Rihanna instead. It doesn’t get more embarrassing than that 

Or Rihanna’s tragic vocals on Same Old Love that made the producer fly out and fetch Selena Gomez instead 

[Cleanromantic]

Rihanna gets away with less than mediocre everything, so yeah .

[Josh]

1 minute ago, Big Bad Wolf said:

No. Just look at Rihanna and how people bash her for being “talentless”, but others have literally PRAISED someone like Selena Gomez for having a “good career despite no talent” or whatever + they eat up her whisper vocals like no tomorrow too. But Rihanna gets dragged for everything under the sun even though her discography is full of literal classics. 

No one has praised Selena Gomez everyone calls her out on her lack of talent. 

[Clauss]

Look at The Weeknd live. He is tragic

[Armani?]

Just now, Squall said:

Don't you guys put Normani (who can't sing) on a pedestal?

 

They do here, but does it really count if her career is frozen in time? She hasn't dropped a album or EP in 5 years & her last song was over a year ago

[airplane]

3 minutes ago, Icarus said:

Or Rihanna’s tragic vocals on Same Old Love that made the producer fly out and fetch Selena Gomez instead 

Except that Rihanna rejected that song. Meanwhile, Calvin wanted someone better to sing the song after hearing that horrendous and nasly demo. Imagine getting your own song snatched like that 

Edited April 20, 2023 by airplane

[tshwark]

Mainstream media will never call out Taylor for her mediocre vocals, her first grammy performance was a disaster, however with black artists they won’t hesitate.

[Zoe_]

If the music is pop like Rihanna. But even she has a unique voice that has gotten better over time.

[Richie]

23 minutes ago, Shelter said:

No. Just look at the Taylor lip syncing thread, all sticking up for her. You can't even hear her voice over the backtrack anymore. 

 

Alicia gets dragged for her vocals all the time. 

Plus she uses 4 ... yes FOUR backing vocalist on top of the backing track on tour 

[Cheers]

20 minutes ago, TheArgonaut said:

Rihanna is there.

 

Mind sharing a video of Taylor delivering better vocals than Rihanna?

 

[Pheromosa]

7 minutes ago, Josh said:

Who would want to? LOTB is a mediocre song saved by the production. Rihanna's vocals arent bragging rights

Still a more vocally demanding performance than any song of Taylor’s 

[Josh]

Just now, Pheromosa said:

Still a more vocally demanding performance than any song of Taylor’s 

the bar is very low then

[Chika]

No. Black women are under far too much scrutiny in the public eye to ever get away with Taylor/Selena/Gaga's complete lack of vocal talent. Rihanna actually has a very distinct vocal tone, and, while not exactly Whitney come again, her vocals are certainly better than 90% of the white women that dominate the charts  

[Carla Rosón]

No

[StonedSoulPicnic]

If Mickey Guyton did this, she'd be the laughing stock of country music.

[Lipgloss]

Rihanna can sing tho . She's just inconsistent. Sometimes her vocals sound tired, other times it's very strong. 

 

I don't think I've ever seen a Taylor performance where I would say her vocals were strong. 

Edited April 20, 2023 by Lipgloss

[Escape]

Normani comes to mind.

[Devin]

No.
 

Black artists are heavily scrutinized.

[Devin]

And those randomly bringing up Rih and Normani  Rih has a better tone and sound than Taylor which explains her massive hits and Normani can dance, an alternative skill thats far better than what Taylor does live.

[the good guy_duh]

Normani. Technique-wise, she's even weaker than Taylor, her tone is her saving grace.

 

Also Janet got away with it, for a bit.

Edited April 20, 2023 by the good guy_duh

[Shelter]

9 minutes ago, Richie.Valdez said:

Plus she uses 4 ... yes FOUR backing vocalist on top of the backing track on tour 

This is true?  They will use the 3 hours on stage as an excuse. 

[TheArgonaut]

10 minutes ago, Cheers said:

 

Mind sharing a video of Taylor delivering better vocals than Rihanna?

 

Is this supposed to be one of those "remarkable" vocal moments? 

                                                  

[Brooklyn Baby]

The losers naming Rihanna as a weaker vocalist than Taylor. Ijbol

[Cheers]

2 minutes ago, TheArgonaut said:

Is this supposed to be one of those "remarkable" vocal moments? 

                                                  

Thanks for the telling reply