*-ChriZ-* Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 Where is this random Shakira stan coming from? Shakira is bigger than Bey in a Pueblo in Ecuador, sure. Thats about it. Hang it up flatscreen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonver Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 5 minutes ago, *-ChriZ-* said: Where is this random Shakira stan coming from? Shakira is bigger than Bey in a Pueblo in Ecuador, sure. Thats about it. Hang it up flatscreen your xenophonic ass is not going to change, that beyonce doesnt have. #1 single in germany, france, italy, greece, belgium etc without beatiful liar. neither a diamond album or single in Europe, her local ass will neve achieve that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bijonse Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 11 minutes ago, Jonver said: you stan beyonce girl, she made a whole album about her cheating husband, yet she stayed with him, but look at those tragic streams of that album. shakira made karol G and bizarrap chart for the first time in the top 10: Usa: #9 Italy: #1 Spain: #1 Switzerland: #2 Portugal: #2 Luxembourg: #2 Lebanon: #3 Greece: #4 Hungary: #4 Poland: #5 Netherlands: #7 Slovakia: #7 Croatia: #7 Romania: #7 Belgium: #9 while beyonce keeps leeching on artist like ed sheeran, megan, weeknd, while jumping on sucessful songs. shakira has more global streams than beyonce shakira has sold more albums and singles than her in Europe. shakira has sold more albums than her in latinamerica. shakira still relevant in the streaming era, beyonce last album flopped hard, nothing will change that. I don’t trust your posts about charts anymore. Why would set your girl up and bring up collabs when that’s all shakira has anymore RENAISSANCE #1 10+ countries el dorado #1 1 country Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobyonce Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Jonver said: your xenophonic ass is not going to change, that beyonce doesnt have. #1 single in germany, france, italy, greece, belgium etc without beatiful liar. neither a diamond album or single in Europe, her local ass will neve achieve that. Your crying and throwing up will not change a damn thing. BEYONCE outgrossed, outsold, outacclaimed and outstreamed ms. Hips give it up Edited March 23, 2023 by Bobyonce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abeille Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 Just now, Jonver said: you stan beyonce girl, she made a whole album about her cheating husband, yet she stayed with him, but look at those tragic streams of that album. shakira made karol G and bizarrap chart for the first time in the top 10: Usa: #9 Italy: #1 Spain: #1 Switzerland: #2 Portugal: #2 Luxembourg: #2 Lebanon: #3 Greece: #4 Hungary: #4 Poland: #5 Netherlands: #7 Slovakia: #7 Croatia: #7 Romania: #7 Belgium: #9 while beyonce keeps leeching on artist like ed sheeran, megan, weeknd, while jumping on sucessful songs. shakira has more global streams than beyonce shakira has sold more albums and singles than her in Europe. shakira has sold more albums than her in latinamerica. shakira still relevant in the streaming era, beyonce last album flopped hard, nothing will change that. The album in question went on to become the last album by a Black artist to move 2M pure copies & top the IFPI global album chart, something the purportedly global Shakira has never even come close to seeing as her last top 10 IFPI entry was in... 2001. Just as a side note, the Bizarrap collab did not peak in the top 10 in neither Netherlands nor Belgiumin the former it peaked at #41 (the Tip chart is a component one, equivalent to bubbling under) and in Belgium it peaked at #21 in Wallonia while being OUT in Flanders. Renaissance spent more weeks at #1 than any Shakira album in both these countries. Bizarrap had the best selling song of 2022 in Spain and most of LATAM with Quevedo, which additionally peaked at #1 in Italy and Portugal. Keep falsifying her stats to cover up the fact that she hasn't seen a solo hit on the scale of Cuff It since that song she plagiarised from Cameroonians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonver Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, Bobyonce said: Your crying and throwing up will not change a damn thing. BEYONCE outgrossed, outsold, outacclaimed and outstreamed ms. Hips give it maybe when the texas girl, have a diamond album or single in europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*-ChriZ-* Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 9 minutes ago, Jonver said: your xenophonic ass is not going to change, that beyonce doesnt have. #1 single in germany, france, italy, greece, belgium etc without beatiful liar. neither a diamond album or single in Europe, her local ass will neve achieve that. Resorting to personal attacks = running out of arguments? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobyonce Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Jonver said: maybe when the texas girl, have a diamond album or single in europe. Maybe when the Lebanese girl can go on a sold out stadium tour and a have successful solo song Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abeille Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Jonver said: your xenophonic ass is not going to change, that beyonce doesnt have. #1 single in germany, france, italy, greece, belgium etc without beatiful liar. Beautiful Liar didn't even peak at #1 in Belgium. It literally had the same peak (#2) as Cuff It for the love of god stop LYING I will remind you again that Shakira doesn't have one certification in the world's 2nd largest recording market (her stats there are literally nonexistent) and that Beyoncé vastly outperformed her in 8-9 of these markets. Edited March 23, 2023 by abeille Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonver Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 5 minutes ago, *-ChriZ-* said: Resorting to personal attacks = running out of arguments? lol i'm calling out a xenophobic and racist ass, what's wrong with it? you cant pick up the difference? beyonce streaming stats still tragic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonver Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, abeille said: Beautiful Liar didn't even peak at #1 in Belgium. It literally had the same peak (#2) as Cuff It for the love of god stop LYING I will remind you again that Shakira doesn't have one certification in the world's 2nd largest recording market (her stats there are literally nonexistent) and that Beyoncé vastly outperformed her in 8-9 of these markets. it peaked #1 in germany, france, italy and several countries in europe, beyonce's song with the most #1 around the world, without BL she will never have a #1. Edited March 23, 2023 by Jonver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainMusic Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Jonver said: it peaked #1 in germany, france, italy and several countries in europe, beyonce's song with the most #1 around the world, without BL she will never have a #1. The way you have to cling to these markets is so embarrassing, especially when Beyoncé is outperforming Shakira even there album and touring wise Completely ignoring North America, Oceania and Asian markets like Japan and South Korea where Beyoncé destroys her. Talking about Diamond albums in Europe when Beyoncé has a diamond album in Brazil The fact that you called Beyoncé who’s been in the game 25 years a fad alone proves that you’re not to be taken seriously. Edited March 23, 2023 by CaptainMusic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Stratus Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 Shakira and P!nk sweetie… X and Brit another story though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abeille Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 Just now, Jonver said: it peaked #1 in germany, france, italy and several countries in europe, beyonce's song with the most #1 around the world. And yet it hasn't even sold a fraction of Halo or matched its weeks on charts around the world. Quick little #1 peaks with little to no longevity won't help Shakira land that elusive certification in Japan/South Korea or success in other top 10 IFPI markets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polgg48 Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 the localness is too strong to see wider range of success, few key players who cant let her flop but no demand elsewhere out of their controls. ot: 'most' is the word, that's excluded shakira and maybe p!nk on tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonver Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, abeille said: And yet it hasn't even sold a fraction of Halo or matched its weeks on charts around the world. Quick little #1 peaks with little to no longevity won't help Shakira land that elusive certification in Japan/South Korea or success in other top 10 IFPI markets. shakira has hips dont lie, waka waka and whenever wherever, bigger than any beyonce song have ever released, she didnt needed japan or korea, to outsold beyonce. Beautiful Liar: beyonce's song with most #1 around the world. Edited March 23, 2023 by Jonver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvadaKedavra Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 Beyonce is a hardworker and is constantly evolving. Ambitiousness can get u that far Always keep her fans well-feed She was also able to deflect backlash. Didnt have any horrible situations like the Kesha-Britney one. Has a sweet attitude so, she didnt got cancelled like Xtina. Basically did everything right a genius. Now the question is..........Will a black queen in the future able to match her? She looks like an impossible artist to match. Ultimate level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abeille Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 Just now, Jonver said: shakira has hits dont lie, waka waka and wheneve wherever, bigger than any beyonce song have ever released, she didnt needed japan or korea, to outsold beyonce. Beautiful Liar: beyonce's song with most #1 CSPC best selling artists of all-time Beyoncé (solo) - 94,026,000 Shakira - 74,529,000 Best selling music artists by record sales Beyoncé (solo) - 200-250 million Shakira - 80-125 million CSPC best selling albums I Am... Sasha Fierce - 20,656,000 Dangerously in Love - 18,310,000 Laundry Service - 17,724,000 B'Day - 14,116,000 4 - 9,640,000 Beyoncé - 9,460,000 Oral Fixation Vol 1 - 9,381,000 Bonus: The Writing's on the Wall - 19,900,000 Survivor - 15,920,000 Destiny Fulfilled - 9,900,000 The fact remains that Beyoncé eclipses Shakira in every conceivable metric, unless you wanna count #1 single peaks in Belize and Spain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonver Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, abeille said: CSPC best selling artists of all-time Beyoncé (solo) - 94,026,000 Shakira - 74,529,000 Best selling music artists by record sales Beyoncé (solo) - 200-250 million Shakira - 80-125 million CSPC best selling albums I Am... Sasha Fierce - 20,656,000 Dangerously in Love - 18,310,000 Laundry Service - 17,724,000 B'Day - 14,116,000 4 - 9,640,000 Beyoncé - 9,460,000 Oral Fixation Vol 1 - 9,381,000 Bonus: The Writing's on the Wall - 19,900,000 Survivor - 15,920,000 Destiny Fulfilled - 9,900,000 The fact remains that Beyoncé eclipses Shakira in every conceivable metric, unless you wanna count #1 single peaks in Belize and Spain. those countries besides the US, are the ones where beyonce keeps flopping, beyonce stats are segregated to the US, the fact shakira outsold her ass in europe despite her dischography is mostly in spanish. take beyonce sales from her own country and she's nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iyanla, Fix Me Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 For the record, I don't think anyone is calling Pink or Shakira flops per se, they're simply just not on Beyonce's level. Like Beyonce is competing with Taylor and Ariana who literally (career-wise) debuted a decade after her. Shakira is certainly having a resurgence with her latest features but her releases prior to this have been ok at best. No one who debuted before 1997 is doing it like Beyonce end of story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abeille Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Jonver said: those countries besides the US, are the ones where beyonce keeps flopping, beyonce stats are segregated to the US, the fact shakira outsold her ass in europe despite her dischography is mostly in spanish. take beyonce sales from her own country and she's nothing. So I guess Shakira is local by default since she's a complete non factor in 8/10 IFPI top 10 markets. Beyoncé outsold her by a wide margin in the UK (biggest market in Europe), Ireland, Scandinavia, Benelux, et cetera, so it's really just a negligible amount of countries that Shakira outdoes Beyoncé in, and even then Beyoncé eviscerates her with DC, #1 albums in the continent and/or once touring stats are taken into account. Y'all are clinging onto those extra 500k Italian sales for dear life ahjajhsjhshjgjkjfjfkj The true gag is that Beyoncé's stats are FAR more evenly spread out across the globe than Shakira's, whose success is literally confined to 1 and a half continents. Edited March 23, 2023 by abeille Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aethereal Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Jonver said: those countries besides the US, are the ones where beyonce keeps flopping, beyonce stats are segregated to the US, the fact shakira outsold her ass in europe despite her dischography is mostly in spanish. take beyonce sales from her own country and she's nothing. America is a part of the world and America has a bigger population than Western Europe. Taking away America is like taking away all of Western Europe or the bulk of Latin America. Edited March 23, 2023 by Aristotle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aethereal Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, abeille said: So I guess Shakira is local by default since she's a complete non factor in 8/10 IFPI top 10 markets. Beyoncé outsold her by a wide margin in the UK (biggest market in Europe), Ireland, Scandinavia, Benelux, et cetera, so it's really just a negligible amount of countries that Shakira outdoes Beyoncé in, and even then Beyoncé eviscerates her with DC, #1 albums in the continent and/or once touring stats are taken into account. Y'all are clinging onto those extra 500k Italian sales for dear life ahjajhsjhshjgjkjfjfkj The true gag is that Beyoncé's stats are FAR more evenly spread out across the globe than Shakira's, whose success is literally confined to 1 and a half continents. America population - 370M Western Europe - 300M (I am being generous) Why is taking America away any different from counting out the biggest of Latin America's markets or all Western Europe? Edited March 23, 2023 by Aristotle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonver Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 10 minutes ago, Aristotle said: America is a part of the world and America has a bigger population than Western Europe. Taking away America is like taking away all of Western Europe or the bulk of Latin America. beyonce's deranged fanbase keep pointing out shakira sales come from latinamerica, which is not true, cant I do the same? since 90% of beyonce's sales come from her own country, a local artist through and through. relevant fact here, it's beyonce is tanking in the streaming era & she will continue to do so, as she ages. a fad from the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeyColombia Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Jonver said: beyonce's deranged fanbase keep pointing out shakira sales come from latinamerica, which is not true, cant I do the same? since 90% of beyonce's sales come from her own country, a local artist through and through. relevant fact here, it's beyonce is tanking in the streaming era & she will continue to do so, as she ages. a fad from the past. Relevant fact and her recent album is about to hit 2B Spotify streams before the tour starts? has a song close to 500M where any of the early 200s girl is doing it? And why are you acting like Spotify is the only streaming app? Renaissance has been in top 15 of Apple global albums since release day, is right now at #11... is the second longest female album from last year on the daily chart WW... with over 50 days at #1 and over 60 days in Europe where she is at #8 right now? Renaissance doesn't have a single visual and has over 2M sales just with streams according to ChartMasters.... A fad that has already 57 Stadiums booked and has sold basically the entire tour with an instagram post ? Beyonce is about to outgross and sell more tickets than Shakira is entire touring career in the UK with just London this tour... just giving you an example A fad that is so big that charge over 25M Dollars for 1 Hour show? A fad that can move 200k physicals in this sales climate on first week and debut with over 320,000 sales ? Shakira is nowhere to Beyoncé level just because she has those huge collaborations with HOT latin acts.... Edited March 23, 2023 by BeyColombia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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