fan base K-Pop Thread: 2023 Archive

[Witnessed ET]

3 hours ago, Pluto2022 said:

@Witnessed ET @kendoll2001

 

I'm honestly impressed by how much longevity SVT has and how they managed to outlast most of their peers. They kinda had a slow start especially back when 3rd gen was dominating, like weren't they behind the likes of EXO, NCT and GOT7 etc. back then? I sometimes forget that they are 3rd gen group, since they reached their peak way later compared to most of their peers. Like SVT weren't even on my radar until like 2021, and I was surprised to find out that they debuted in 2015 

 

What song was their breakout song aka their "God's Menu"?

 

I know kendoll king has already given most of the info but:

 

Their domestic breakthrough was very early on with AJU NICE in 2016. An iconic song in kpop. 

Their international breakthrough was Dont Wanna Cry in 2017 which gained them a lot of int fans and a global exposure. 

so they’ve had success in all avenues at this point and they still keep getting bigger on their NINTH year in the industry, with their latest comeback SUPER smashing on the Korean charts, the album being the highest selling of the year and one of the highest selling kpop albums ever(is it already the best selling now?), a successful tour in multiple continents etc. A very very impressive career to the say the least. And it makes me so happy to say that they deserve every inch of their success because they’re such a complete group with every quality you could ask for in a group. 
 

 

3 hours ago, kendoll2001 said:

Yeah, Seventeen gives "that guy who's always been there but you don't end up falling in love with until years later" energy  They've always been successful domestically though, and I'd say their earliest breakout hit was "AJU NICE" back in 2016. But between them coming up with BTS, and having 13 members -  they're definitely coming into their own and peaking much later in their trajectory. I'd say when HYBE acquired Pledis in 2020 was a big turning point for them in terms of overall global standing. I personally didn't get into SVT until that Summer when they released "Left & Right" 

 

Left & Right is such a serotonin boost for me, that song is truly sunshine bottled in a few mins, quirky excellence 
 

[JonginBey]

34 minutes ago, youresotoxic said:

wait... 

Since SeKai will be in the military (and Lay will still be in China), Xiumin is next in line for main dancer

[poltergeist]

38 minutes ago, DelRey said:

 

Is always a kii watch NCT members reacting to their songs 

 

Doyoung 

 

OF COURSE taeyong was into it

 

[Sheep]

2 hours ago, Selenasworld said:

They way you spilled nothing at all, girl do you remember Justin Bieber, Timberlake, 1D and NSYNC etc is not that they wear monk habits to perform , do they? KTRL is literally saints compared to what is out there, mostly p*rn fantasies 

worse things being out there doesn't justify it though. I was just explaining why me and so many others take issue. It's really not that deep.

[cloudbusting]

whatever happened to this queen 

[Brooklyn Baby]

46 minutes ago, youresotoxic said:

doyoung  taeyong being the only one to actually WANT the song 

Taeyong is my ult but he's so wrong for this one 

[elevate]

1 hour ago, youresotoxic said:

 

Queeens!! Come through with another bop please!

 

 

[Save-Me-Oprah]

3 hours ago, Century said:

The thing I find most weird about it is how kpop fans will sexualize the most innocuous things of all time. aespa has really been releasing **** anthem after **** anthem for 2 whole years and when people overly sexualize them it's creepy and everybody can acknowledge that, but when It's a man who's just going about his day singing regular ass basic songs and fully covered up in normal clothes the discussion here turns *****graphic. It seems kinda predatory because it's totally uninvited. If people talked about Lisa or Taeyeon the way they talk about male idols in here there would be RIOTS

 

Fans objectifying and dehumanizing idols is a massive issue that goes beyond male idol stans being thirsty but the perversion of it in these scenarios is especially off putting to most of us.

Some people take it too far with these weirdo fantasies and writing erotica and fanfics etc. 

 

There's a line between admiring beautiful men and being a creepy weirdo

 

[elevate]

omg at the risk of having another thread being created re KTRL = total pits.... Wonbin with blue black hair is an absolute collapse!! 

[Save-Me-Oprah]

2 minutes ago, elevate said:

omg at the risk of having another thread being created re KTRL = total pits.... Wonbin with blue black hair is an absolute collapse!! 

If talking about Wonbin's beauty is wrong then I don't wanna be right 

[Windy Day]

4 hours ago, Pluto2022 said:

@Witnessed ET @kendoll2001

 

I'm honestly impressed by how much longevity SVT has and how they managed to outlast most of their peers. They kinda had a slow start especially back when 3rd gen was dominating, like weren't they behind the likes of EXO, NCT and GOT7 etc. back then? I sometimes forget that they are 3rd gen group, since they reached their peak way later compared to most of their peers. Like SVT weren't even on my radar until like 2021, and I was surprised to find out that they debuted in 2015 

 

What song was their breakout song aka their "God's Menu"?

 

while it’s true that they’re bigger than ever right now, seventeen has always been way more popular than got7 and nct, in korea at least (rightfully so) and they were praised for the high quality of their music ever since their debut.

Very Nice was a big hit in korea and that was in 2016. it’s just that the international girlies prefered noise music and i guess ignored them until recently??? or maybe they seem more popular now because BTS isn’t releasing as a full group so their domination isn’t as it used to be

[CandyCoatedClouds]

Y'all taeyong genuinely likes trash/noise music. Now I can't say too much since I also like most of that too but Taeyong has made it know that he rides for bad but fun music. Of course he would want to sing Baggy jeans.

 

 

Poor baby Doyoung is always going through it every time it's time to release a new NCT song though 

[Save-Me-Oprah]

Taeyong CANNOT be trusted

 

[Save-Me-Oprah]

the visual is visualling with his new hair

 

[New Edition]

7 minutes ago, Windy Day said:

while it’s true that they’re bigger than ever right now, seventeen has always been way more popular than got7 and nct, in korea at least (rightfully so) and they were praised for the high quality of their music ever since their debut.

Very Nice was a big hit in korea and that was in 2016. it’s just that the international girlies prefered noise music and i guess ignored them until recently??? or maybe they seem more popular now because BTS isn’t releasing as a full group so their domination isn’t as it used to be

SVT were monster rookies. Their debut Adore U and Mansae were a one-two punch that had fans chanting so hard in year end stages it made EXO (who were dominating at the time) take notice.

 

I think their momentum was halted momentarily by Wanna One's short, explosive popularity in 2017 thanks to Produce 101 Season 2 being such a phenomenon. A lot of boy groups suffered from having their fans taken away from Wanna One they were just too powerful. That's why a lot of companies targeted them (and X1) later on (I remember them being called 'bullfrogs in the ecosystem' by anonymous company officials in reports at the time 

 

After Wanna One broke up, then I think it was BTS sucking up all the spotlight. But it seems SVT kept growing gradually. I honestly think now that BTS is taking a bit of a break it's allowed other boy groups to shine and gain more attention.

[Windy Day]

4 hours ago, Selenasworld said:

I don't get what's wrong thirsting for Korean  idols that's literally the same old **** we been doing since Beethoven fan girls you can't change my mind thinking ATRL has been racist 

it’s just that yall are weirdos that prove kpop producers right everyday when they say that idols are nothing more than sex dolls because porn is illegal in korea (produce 101 producer literally said that produce/kpop is soft porn) and yall are doing NOTHING to change that image that kpop has which is also why idols aren’t taken seriously as artists  

[Windy Day]

2 minutes ago, New Edition said:

SVT were monster rookies. Their debut Adore U and Mansae were a one-two punch that had fans chanting so hard in year end stages it made EXO (who were dominating at the time) take notice.

 

I think their momentum was halted momentarily by Wanna One's short, explosive popularity in 2017 thanks to Produce 101 Season 2 being such a phenomenon. A lot of boy groups suffered from having their fans taken away from Wanna One they were just too powerful. That's why a lot of companies targeted them (and X1) later on (I remember them being called 'bullfrogs in the ecosystem' by anonymous company officials in reports at the time 

 

After Wanna One broke up, then I think it was BTS sucking up all the spotlight. But it seems SVT kept growing gradually. I honestly think now that BTS is taking a bit of a break it's allowed other boy groups to shine and gain more attention.

exactly!!! there were so many factors that took the spotlight from seventeen but i’m glad that they kept going and are now able to be the number one boygroup

 

it’s true that they’ve been big from debut and had big hits through their career, it’s just that they had to deal with monsters like EXO, BTS and Wanna One 😭

[Save-Me-Oprah]

9 minutes ago, Windy Day said:

yall are doing NOTHING to change that image that kpop has which is also why idols aren’t taken seriously as artists  

most idols aren't take seriously as artists because a large portion of them are just puppets for a larger machine. They sing what they're given and in the style of how the producers dictate, wear what they're told, style their hair however the company wants, dance the choreo theyre given, pose for pictures how they're told, etc. 

 

That's just how the idol system works.

 

[Windy Day]

3 minutes ago, Save-Me-Oprah said:

most idols aren't take seriously as artists because a large portion of them are just puppets for a larger machine. They sing what they're given and in the style of how the producers dictate, wear what they're told, style their hair however the company wants, dance the choreo theyre given, pose for pictures how they're told, etc. 

 

That's just how the idol system works.

 

and you spilled but when i said the exact same thing some times ago on atrl i got called out

 

Edited October 5, 2023 by Windy Day

[Save-Me-Oprah]

Suddenly everyone wants to be Huh Yunjin and change the idol system

 

[Windy Day]

"The male version will be healthy *****graphy for female viewers."

"But because it has a lot of entertainment and fun elements, males will also watch."

 

that’s what produce 101 producer said. i’m sure some people in this thread agree with him and don’t see any issue with that statement  mind you this is also how the entire idol industry works

[Save-Me-Oprah]

Just now, Windy Day said:

and you spilled but when i said the exact same thing some times ago on atrl i got called out

 

It's important to make an exception for the small portion of idol groups who do have at least the appearance of creative control in what sort of music they make. Stray Kids, Seventeen, Griddle, etc.

 

[Windy Day]

Just now, Save-Me-Oprah said:

It's important to make an exception for the small portion of idol groups who do have at least the appearance of creative control in what sort of music they make. Stray Kids, Seventeen, Griddle, etc.

 

apart from seventeen, we can sadly tell when idols have creative freedom

 

[Save-Me-Oprah]

 

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