SwiftLover Posted October 24, 2022 Posted October 24, 2022 Not the girls abandoning 30 just like that and jumping back to 25 Oh it’s REAL BAD for OTH this week
paddii_ Posted October 24, 2022 Posted October 24, 2022 The only thing that hasn’t changed about Taylor Swift in all these years is how she makes the haters feel so BITTER and PRESSED I really did not expect her to do this well. Can’t believe she is still slaying so hard this long into her career. She really has America on chokehold still. I still haven’t listend to the album but looking forward to her ditching the folk sound. Wasn’t my cup of tea. Anyway congrats to Taylor Swift.
KOMH Posted October 24, 2022 Posted October 24, 2022 18 minutes ago, Stan.killah said: The album discussed in my post is strictly 25, released in 2015. Not other albums from early 2010s. I get why you would want to divert the attention away from 25, as it demolishes all of your fav's 1st week sales. Nice try though We don't give a ****. Keep deflecting from the fact that 25's follow up failed to outdo Taylor's surprise indie passion project despite an extensive promotional campaign, ridiculous amounts of playlisting and Spotify promo which involved revoking a whole shuffle button, and 500k vinyls printed all at once (which consequently sent manufacturers into overdrive and hoarded every pressing factory). The album is now collecting dust at every retailer and is about to depart the Billboard 200 after less than a year on the chart, further showcasing that Adele will never again see another 1M opening in her lifetime.
fridayteenage Posted October 24, 2022 Posted October 24, 2022 so now the OTHs can't use current adele to drag her, they wanna use 7 years ago adele? give it up
Da Vinci Posted October 24, 2022 Posted October 24, 2022 And the fact that Midnights is pulling these numbers without a hit single like Hello or Oops is even more impressive People are actually here for the whole body of work and aren't just pulled by the hype of "the follow-up to the artist's best selling album"
State of Grace. Posted October 24, 2022 Posted October 24, 2022 25 minutes ago, By the Water said: You stan aespa and are calling Taylor Swift's sales fishy?
BlueTimberwolf Posted October 24, 2022 Posted October 24, 2022 3 hours ago, By the Water said: You stan aespa and are calling Taylor Swift's sales fishy? It's getting harder and harder to believe her sales, sorry. You're asking us to believe hundreds of thousands of 30+ adults walked into Target (and pretty much Target only) to buy her album, yet these same customers don't do this for literally any other artist? For a dying format at that (who even owns a CD player at this point)? There is no way these casual fans are buying her music for collectible purposes. These numbers are not adding up anymore.
ALA Posted October 24, 2022 Posted October 24, 2022 1.4m low end absolutely insane. I really thought 1m would probably not happen again but Taylor will probably do 1m+ with TS11 if it has a similar rollout. Crazy.
FightDragonsWithMe Posted October 24, 2022 Posted October 24, 2022 Taylor keeps proving everyone wrong
byzantium Posted October 24, 2022 Posted October 24, 2022 12 minutes ago, BlueTimberwolf said: It's getting harder and harder to believe her sales, sorry. You're asking us to believe hundreds of thousands of 30+ adults walked into Target (and pretty much Target only) to buy her album, yet these same customers don't do this for literally any other artist? For a dying format at that (who even owns a CD player at this point)? There is no way these casual fans are buying her music for collectible purposes. These numbers are not adding up anymore. They did that for Adele last year. Some artists can just motivate people to still buy music. I bought a vinyl copy of midnights this week (most of the time they are not available for weeks…but of course Taylor has her supply chain well managed.)
Squall Posted October 24, 2022 Posted October 24, 2022 19 minutes ago, BlueTimberwolf said: It's getting harder and harder to believe her sales, sorry. You're asking us to believe hundreds of thousands of 30+ adults walked into Target (and pretty much Target only) to buy her album, yet these same customers don't do this for literally any other artist? For a dying format at that (who even owns a CD player at this point)? There is no way these casual fans are buying her music for collectible purposes. These numbers are not adding up anymore. So now, they just choose denial
KOMH Posted October 24, 2022 Posted October 24, 2022 2 hours ago, Artistofthedecade said: Swifities need to stop acting like Taylor dropped a re-recording album for fun, and that it's selling this amount without incentive. She included like 15 new songs, has multiple versions and promoted on TV (including a performance on SNL). She also promoted the **** out of it on Tik Tok knowing they'd eat up the drama with Jake Gyllenhaal ala Olivia/Joshua/Sabrina. The nostalgia + controversy (Jake + Rerecording) work in Taylor's favor for. Not against her. I honestly can't wait for her next release. If it opens with 600-800k with her plethora of versions then I can't wait to bump all these Swifties. Because it will SURELY be embarrassing if Taylor can't significantly outsell her own re-recording with her next studio album. We're still waiting for the bump @Gaia
Taylena Posted October 24, 2022 Posted October 24, 2022 (edited) 25 minutes ago, BlueTimberwolf said: It's getting harder and harder to believe her sales, sorry. You're asking us to believe hundreds of thousands of 30+ adults walked into Target (and pretty much Target only) to buy her album, yet these same customers don't do this for literally any other artist? For a dying format at that (who even owns a CD player at this point)? There is no way these casual fans are buying her music for collectible purposes. These numbers are not adding up anymore. What do you think is more believable dear "Karina's Sex Slave"? aespa's Girls' 1.6M sales + 18,28M streams from its debut week on Spotify OR Taylor's Midnights' 1.6M sales in the US + 17.3M streams just from one song in one day / 188M streams for the album in one day / 403M after 3 days ??? Pls enlighten us because the numbers are not adding up... but for aespa. Edited October 24, 2022 by Taylena
BlueTimberwolf Posted October 24, 2022 Posted October 24, 2022 3 hours ago, byzantium said: They did that for Adele last year. Some artists can just motivate people to still buy music. I bought a vinyl copy of midnights this week (most of the time they are not available for weeks…but of course Taylor has her supply chain well managed.) But.....why Midnights? Where were they for Folklore, Lover, Evermore? Especially with no hit single, how are this many people aware her album is even out? People keep pointing to this magical "marketing", when SNL can't even get you to the top of iTunes in 2022. Especially grown adults. There is something going on here.
Rv1709 Posted October 24, 2022 Posted October 24, 2022 Her team is probably mass buying her album lmao
WildHeart Posted October 24, 2022 Posted October 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Stan.killah said: Well, when there's 20 unnecessary versions of the same album (strictly for milking purposes), then its expected for sales figures to be high, which makes it not so highly impressive. 25 should 3.4 million first week without so many versions. Her fanbase is condition to buy all the versions, so it would be interesting to know the real normal figures without the multiple hype-purchasing of 20 versions
BlueTimberwolf Posted October 24, 2022 Posted October 24, 2022 3 hours ago, Taylena said: What do you think is more believe dear "Karina's Sex Slave"? aespa's Girls' 1.6M sales + 18,28M streams from its debut week on Spotify OR Taylor's Midnights' 1.6M sales in the US + 17.3M streams just from one song in one day / 288M streams for the album in one day / 403M after 3 days ??? Pls enlighten us because the numbers are not adding up... but for aespa. I never claimed Aespa's sales were real, I just enjoy the music. But streaming has grown in recent years due older generations moving to the format. We're expected to believe while her streaming grew, her physical sales doubled. Her amount of older fans has grown by like half in less than year with no hits? Occam's Razor.
HEAVYONIT Posted October 24, 2022 Posted October 24, 2022 (edited) 1.5M? Holy **** Too bad it's on her worst album since Speak Now Edited October 24, 2022 by Black Jesus
PoisonedIvy Posted October 24, 2022 Posted October 24, 2022 33 minutes ago, BlueTimberwolf said: It's getting harder and harder to believe her sales, sorry. You're asking us to believe hundreds of thousands of 30+ adults walked into Target (and pretty much Target only) to buy her album, yet these same customers don't do this for literally any other artist? For a dying format at that (who even owns a CD player at this point)? There is no way these casual fans are buying her music for collectible purposes. These numbers are not adding up anymore. The fumes are just so entertaining
boxoffice Posted October 24, 2022 Posted October 24, 2022 The haters in here embarrassing themselves Congrats to Taylor, she did that!
Cruel Summer Posted October 24, 2022 Posted October 24, 2022 27 minutes ago, BlueTimberwolf said: It's getting harder and harder to believe her sales, sorry. You're asking us to believe hundreds of thousands of 30+ adults walked into Target (and pretty much Target only) to buy her album, yet these same customers don't do this for literally any other artist? For a dying format at that (who even owns a CD player at this point)? There is no way these casual fans are buying her music for collectible purposes. These numbers are not adding up anymore. 1 hour ago, BlueTimberwolf said: So if 400k/1.4m is streams, then she is selling 1 million copies in the stores? Her website? These numbers are starting to seem fishy. Records stores have completely vanished, the grocery stores are barely stocking them, yet Taylor and Taylor alone is selling 1990s style physical sales. Even Kpop artists don't sell that much in the actual store. I thought when customers bought multiple copies it didn't count for the charts? It's starting to seem like there is some BTS style trickery going on here. Listen. I am so sorry that you don’t understand that experience, but literally yes, that’s what is happening. There are people who do not otherwise purchase physical albums who do so for solely Taylor Swift. There are fans who understand these releases as an event and who build connections and community based on her music as a shared interest. That’s just how it is.
PoisonedIvy Posted October 24, 2022 Posted October 24, 2022 9 minutes ago, BlueTimberwolf said: But.....why Midnights? Where were they for Folklore, Lover, Evermore? Especially with no hit single, how are this many people aware her album is even out? People keep pointing to this magical "marketing", when SNL can't even get you to the top of iTunes in 2022. Especially grown adults. There is something going on here. If you are LEGITIMATELY asking how she gained fans — it’s because folklore, evermore, and Red TV were all EXTREMELY positively received by critics and fans alike. She also doesn’t have a polarizing image like she did for the ENTIRETY of the 2010’s. For the 2020’s she has been extremely inoffensive, all she’s done is make music that solidifies her connection with her fanbase while also earning new fans who didn’t like her country or pop stuff but did like folklore and evermore. Folklore got so much acclaim and earned her respect from communities of music listeners who never gave her the time of day before — the indie bros and the alt girls, the people responsible for vinyl sales booming nowadays. Same reason Billie and Olivia and Harry can push hundreds of thousands of vinyl. she cultivated her fanbase for over a decade so yes, we still buy CD’s, a “dying format” the same way KPop fanbases buy their favorite artists albums in CD format. But not only is she demolishing pure sales, she’s also killing it in streams, and will INEVITABLY kill it on tour. Your doubt of her power is easily disproved by the fact that she has the touring power to gross 300,400,500+ million from one tour alone, something NONE of the other girls can do. Yall always wanna doubt her because you don’t like her music, OPEN YOUR F*CKING EYES to the MILLIONS of people who DO like her and her music. You and your bubble of disdain for her are not a reflection of reality. 5 minutes ago, Rv1709 said: Her team is probably mass buying her album lmao Is her team also the 17 million unique listeners that Spotify confirmed listened to Midnights on day 1? Y’all are just throwing **** at the wall and hoping it sticks
PoisonedIvy Posted October 24, 2022 Posted October 24, 2022 4 minutes ago, Cruel Summer said: Listen. I am so sorry that you don’t understand that experience, but literally yes, that’s what is happening. There are people who do not otherwise purchase physical albums who do so for solely Taylor Swift. There are fans who understand these releases as an event and who build connections and community based on her music as a shared interest. That’s just how it is.
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