discussion Joe Biden polls WORSE than Trump

[G.U.Y. Gaga]

17 hours ago, Miss Show Business said:

Another day, another thread full of embarassing talking points from the left.

 

Apparently, this is "accomplishing nothing"

 

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• 1.9T American Rescue Plan
• $1400 stimulus checks for adults, children, and adult dependents
• 1 year child tax credit expansion – $3600 0-5, $3000 6-17, removed income reqs and made fully refundable
• One year EITC expansion
• $350 billion state and local aid
• $130 billion for schools for safe reopening
• $40 billion for higher ed, half of which must go to student aid
• Extended $300 supplemental UI through September 2021
• Expanded eligibility for extended UI to cover new categories
• Made $10,200 in UI from 2020 tax free
• $1B for Head Start
• $24B Childcare stabilization fund
• $15B in low-income childcare grants
• One Year Child and Dependent Care credit expansion
• $46.5B in housing assistance, inc:
- $21.5B rental assistance
- $10B homeowner relief
- $5B for Sec 8 vouchers
- $5B to fight homelessness
- $5B for utilities assistance
- Extended Eviction moratorium through Aug 2021 (SC struck down)
• 2 year ACA tax credit expansion and ending of subsidy cliff – expanded coverage to millions and cut costs for millions more
• 100% COBRA subsidy through Sept 30th, 2021
• 6 month special enrollment period from Feb-Aug 2021
• Required insurers to cover PrEP, an HIV prevention drug, including all clinical visits relating to it
• Extended open enrollment from 45 to 76 days
• New year round special enrollment period for low income enrollees
• Restored Navigator program to assist with ACA sign up
• Removed separate billing requirement for ACA abortion coverage
• Eliminated regulation that allows states to privatize their exchanges
• Eliminated all Medicaid work requirements
Permanently removed restriction on access to abortion pills by mail
• Signed the Accelerating Access to Critical Therapies for ALS Act to fund increased ALS research and expedite access to experimental treatments
• Rescinded Mexico City Policy (global gag rule) which barred international non-profits from receiving US funding if they provided abortion counseling or referrals
• Allowed states to extend coverage through Medicaid and CHIP to post-partum women for 1 year (up from 60 days)
• 42 Lifetime Federal judges confirmed – most in 40 years
• 13 Circuit Court judges
• 29 District Court judges
• Named first openly LBGTQ woman to sit on an appeals court, first Muslim American federal judge, and record number of black women and public defenders
• $1.2T infrastructure law, including $550B in new funding $
• $110B for roads and bridges
• $66B for passenger and freight rail
• $39B for public transit, plus $30.5B in public transit funds from ARP
• $65B for grid expansion to build out grid for clean energy transmission
• $50B for climate resiliency
• $21 for environmental remediation, incl. superfund cleanup and capping orphan wells
• $7.5B for electric buses
• $7.5B for electric charging stations
• $55B for water and wastewater, including lead pipe removal
• $65B for Affordable Broadband
• $25B for airports, plus $8B from ARP
• $17B for ports and waterways
• $1B in reconnecting communities
• Rejoined the Paris Climate Accords 50% emission reduction goal (2005 levels) by 2030
• EO instructing all federal agencies to implement climate change prevention measures
• Ordered 100% carbon free electricity federal procurement by 2030
100% zero emission light vehicle procurement by 2027, all vehicles by 2035
Net Zero federal building portfolio by 2045, 50% reduction by 2032
• Net Zero federal procurement no later than 2050
• Net zero emissions from federal operations by 2050, 65% reduction by 2030
• Finalized rule slashing the use of hydrofluorocarbons by 85% by 2036 – will slow temp rise by 0.5°C on it’s own.
• Set new fuel efficiency standards for cars and light trucks, raising the requirement for 2026 from 43mpg to 55mpg.
• Protected Tongass National Forest, one of the world’s largest carbon sinks, from development, mining, and logging
• Revoked Keystone XL permit
• Used the CRA to reverse the Trump administration Methane rule, restoring stronger Obama era standards.
• EPA proposed new methane rule stricter than Obama rule, would reduce 41 million tons of methane emissions by 2035
• Partnered with the EU to create the Global Methane Pledge, which over 100 countries have signed, to reduce methane emissions by 30% by 2030 from 2020 levels
• US-EU trade deal to reward clean steel and aluminum and penalize dirty production
• Ended US funding for new coal and fossil fuel projects overseas, and prioritized funding towards clean energy projects
• G7 partnership for “Build Back Better World” – to fund $100s of billions in climate friendly infrastructure in developing countries
• Restoring California’s ability to set stricter climate requirements
• Signed EO on Climate Related Financial Risk that instructs rule making agencies to take climate change related risk into consideration when writing rules and regulations.
• $100M for environmental justice initiatives
• $1.1B for Everglades restoration
• $100M for environmental justice initiatives
• $1.1B for Everglades restoration
• 30 GW Offshore Wind Plan, incl:
• Largest ever offshore wind lease sale in NY and NJ
• Offshore wind lease sale in California
• Expedited reviews of Offshore Wind Projects
• $3B in DOE loans for offshore wind projects
• $230M in port infrastructure for Offshore wind
• Solar plan to reduce cost of solar by more than 50% by 2030 including $128M in funding to lower costs and improve performance of solar technology
Multi-agency partnership to expedite clean energy projects on federal land
• Instructed Dept of Energy to strengthen appliance efficiency rules
• Finalized rule to prevent cheating on efficiency standards
• Finalized rule to expedite appliance efficiency standards
• Repealed Federal Architecture EO that made sustainable federal buildings harder to build
• Reversed size cuts and restored protections to Bears Ears, Grand Staircase-Escalante, and Northeast Canyons and Seamounts Marine National Monuments
• Restoring NEPA regulations to take into account climate change and environmental impacts in federal permitting
• Extended public health emergency through at least April 15, 2022
• $50B in funding for FEMA for COVID Disaster Relief including vaccine funding
• Set 100% FEMA reimbursement to states for COVID costs, retroactively to start of pandemic
• $47.8B for testing
• $1.75B for COVID genome sequencing
• $8.5B to CDC for vaccines
• $7.6B to state and local health depts
• $7.6B to community health centers
• $6B to Indian Health Services
• $17B to the VA, including $1B to forgive veteran medical debt
• $3B to address mental health and substance abuse
• Over 500 million vaccine shots administered in a year
• Established 90,000 free vaccination sites
• Raised federal reimbursement from $23 to $40 per shot for vaccine sites
• 6000 troops deployed for initial vaccination
• Cash incentives, free rides, and free childcare for initial vaccination drive
• 400 million vaccines donated internationally, 1.2 billion committed
$2B contribution to COVAX for global vaccinations
• Funded expansion of vaccine manufacturing in India and South Africa
Implemented vaccine mandate for federal employees, contractors, and employees at healthcare providers that receive Medicare/Medicaid funding.
• Implemented vaccine/test mandate for large businesses (SC struck down)
• Invoked DPA for testing, vaccine, PPE manufacturing
• Federal mask mandate for federal buildings, federal employees, and public transportation
• Implemented test requirement for international travel
• Implemented joint FDA-NIH expedited process to approve at home tests more quickly
• Over 20,000 free federal testing sites
8 at home tests per month required to be reimbursed by insurance
• 1B at home tests available for free by mail
• 50M at home tests available free at community health centers
• 25M high quality reusable masks for low-income residents in early 2021
• 400M free N95 masks at pharmacies and health centers
• Military medical teams deployed to help overburdened hospitals
• Rejoined the WHO
• Ended the ban on trans soldiers in the military
• Reversed Trump admin limits on Bostock ruling and fully enforced it
• Prohibited discrimination against LGBTQ patients in healthcare
• Prohibited discrimination against LGBTQ families in housing under the Fair Housing Act
• Prohibited discrimination against LGBTQ people in the financial system to access loans or credit
• Justice Department declared that Title IX prohibits discrimination based on sexual orientation and gender identity in education.
• Revoked ban on Federal Diversity Training
Instructed the VA to review its policies to remove barriers to care for trans veterans
• First Senate confirmed LGBTQ Cabinet Secretary
• First trans person confirmed by the Senate
• Extended birthright citizenship to children of same sex couples born abroad
• State Department allows X gender marker on passport for non-binary Americans
• Banned new contracts with private prisons for criminal prisons
• Justice Department reestablished the use of consent degrees with police departments
• Pattern and Practice investigation into Phoenix, Louisville, and Minneapolis
Banned chokeholds and limited no-knock raids among federal law enforcement
Initiative to ban modern day redlining
• Doubled DOJ Civil Rights Division staff
• Increase percentage of federal contract for small disadvantaged businesses from 5% to 15% ($100B in additional contracts over 5 years)
• Sued TX and GA over voting laws. Sued TX over abortion law. Sued GA over prison abuse.
• Signed law making Juneteenth a federal holiday
• Signed EO to use the federal government to improve voting access through federal programs and departments.
• Signed COVID-19 Hate Crime Act, which made more resources available to support the reporting of hate crimes
• Signed EO for diversity in the federal workplace
• Increased federal employment opportunities for previously incarcerated persons
• Banned ghost guns
• New regulations on pistol-stabilizing braces
• First annual gun trafficking report in 20 years
• New zero tolerance policy for gun dealers who willfully violate the law
• Signed COPS act, ensuring confidentiality for peer counseling for police officers
• Signed Protecting America’s First Responders Act, expediting benefits for officers disabled in the line of duty
• Signed bill making it a crime to harm US law enforcement overseas
• Student loan freeze through April 30th, 2022
• Changed criteria so an additional 1.14M borrowers qualified for the loan pause (retroactively forgave interest and penalties)
• Forgiven $11.5B in student loans for disabled students, students who were defrauded, and PSLF
• Fixed PSLF so that it is much easier for previous payments to apply.
• Determined that the paused months will apply to PSLF
• Student loan debt forgiveness is tax free through 2025
• Ended Border Wall emergency and cancelled all new border wall construction and contracts
• Repealed Trump’s Muslim Ban
• Set FY 2022 refugee cap to 125,000, the highest in almost 30 years
• Prohibiting ICE from conducting workplace raids
• Family reunification taskforce to reunite separated families. Reunited over 100+ families and gave them status to stay in US
• Granted or extended TPS for Haitians, Venezuelans, Syrians, and Liberians
• Lifted moratorium on green cards and immigrant visas
• Ended use of public charge rule to deny green cards
• Loosened the criteria to qualify for asylum
• Changed ICE enforcement priorities
• Reinitiated the CAM Refugee program for Northern Triangle minors to apply for asylum from their home countries
• $1B+ in public aid and private investment for addressing the root causes of migration
• Ended family detention of immigrants and moved towards other monitoring
• HHS prohibited working with ICE on enforcement for sponsors of unaccompanied minors
• Got rid of harder citizenship test
• Allowed certain visas to be obtained without an in person consulate interview
• Rescinded “metering” policy that limited migrants at ports of entry
• Ended the War in Afghanistan
• First time in 20 years US not involved in a war
• Ended support for Saudi offensive operations in Yemen
• Airstrikes down 54% in 2021 from 2020.
• Issued policy restricting drone strikes outside of warzones
• Restored $235M in aid to Palestinians
AUKUS defense pact with Australia and UK
• New rules to counter extremism within the military
• Signed law funding capitol police and Afghan Refugees
• EO on competitiveness to write consumer friendly rules, such as right to repair
• EO on improving government experience, incl
• Social Security benefits will be able to be claimed online
• Passports can be renewed online
Makes it easier for low-income families to apply for benefits
• Increase telehealth options
• WIC recipients can use benefits online
• $7.25B in additional PPP funds
• Signed PPP extension law to extend the program for 2 months
• Changed criteria to make it easier for small and minority businesses to qualify for PPP loans
• $29 Restaurant Recovery Fund to recover lost revenue
• $1.25B Shuttered Venue fund
• $10.4B for agriculture
• 30 year bailout of multiemployer pension funds that protects millions of pensions through 2051.
• Pro-labor majority appointed to NLRB
• Established task force to promote unionization
• Restored collective bargaining right for federal employees
• Negotiated deal for West Coast Ports to run 24/7 to ease supply chain
• Signed EO to secure and strengthen supply chains
• Investing $1B in small food processors to combat meat prices
• Extended 15% SNAP benefit increase through Sept 30, 2021
• Made 12 million previously ineligible beneficiaries eligible for the increase
• Public health emergency helps keep benefits in place
• Largest permanent increase in SNAP benefit history, raising permanent benefits by 27% ($20B per year)
• Made school lunches free through for all through the 2021-2022 school year
• Extended the Pandemic EBT program
• Largest ever summer food program in 2021 provided 34 million students with $375 for meals over the summer.
• Restarted the FHA-HFA risk sharing program to finance affordable housing development
• Raised Fannie/Freddie’s Low-Income Housing Tax Credit from $1B to $1.7B a year to invest in affordable housing
• $383M CMF grant program for affordable housing production
• Prioritizing owner-occupants and non-profits as purchasers of FHA-insured and Distressed HUD properties, rather than large investors
• Paid a 10% retention incentive to permanent federal firefighters and a $1000 bonus to seasonal firefighters
• Transitioned hundreds of federal firefighters from part time to full time and hired hundreds more
• $28.6B in supplemental disaster relief approved for natural disasters
• $8.7B in funding to increase lending to minority communities
• Released $1.3B in Puerto Rico disaster aid previously held up by Trump admin and removed restrictions on $8.2B housing disaster aid
• Forgave $371M in community disaster loans in PR
• Released $912M in previously withheld education aid to PR
• Permanently made all families in PR eligible for the CTC (previously only families with 3 or more children were)
• Provided permanent funding to quadruple the size of PRs local earned income tax credit
• Permanent $3B per year boost to funding for PR’s Medicaid program
• Raised the minimum wage to $15 an hour for federal contractor, eliminated the minimum wage exception for certain contractor positions, and ended the tipped contractor wage.
• Ordered the minimum wage for federal employees to be raised to $15 an hour
• Medicaid drug rebate change to discourage excessive price increases and save Gov $23.5B
• Incentives for states to expand Medicaid
Finalized the rule that bans surprise medical bills for out of network medical services
• Instituted a moratorium on the federal death penalty

This list is of course what has become law. If we include what House Democrats have passed, it would be substantially longer, and basically include all of the things the left wants. The obvious obstacle is the Senate, where we don't have the required supermajority necessary to pass lefislation. The obvious solution to be able to pass more legislation, is to elect more Democrats in the Senate and hold the House. This isn't going to happen without a united effort. Dems shouldn't be blamed for essentialy voters failure to deliver the majorities needed to pass legislation. Youth voter turnout in the last two Presidential elections was embarassingly low.

 

But no matter what we say, this seems to be a doomed cycle, doomed to continuously repeating itself. Democrats warned of everything correctly happening back in 2016, and they were 1000% right. Until people start taking this seriously, and vote accordingly, nothing is going to change, and Republicans are just going to continue rolling back human rights. It's inexcusable and everyone's failure that this is happening. No one group or person is to blame.

None if this matter when gas/ groceries are super high

 

thats really all the majority care about tbh

[khalyan]

33 minutes ago, G.U.Y. Gaga said:

Youth voter turnout in the last two Presidential elections was embarassingly low.

(sorry, the quote tagged GUY and not the OP @Miss Show Business for some reason)

 

You know why that is?  Because the Democrats have done nothing to appeal to young voters and have left them feeling disenfranchised with the current party.

 

Your list is a whole lot of nothing, especially when it comes to young voters.  Do you think they care that Biden gave out one stimulus check early in his presidency when Trump did two?  Do you think they care that Biden created a federal mask mandate that wasn't being enforced?  Do they care that the only thing Biden did for student loans was make forgiveness tax free instead of forgiving a portion like he promised during the campaign?  Do young people care that he shut down the Keystone pipeline when gas prices are at their highest currently and young people can barely make ends meet?  

 

What about health care?  In your list, the only things done for health care is more funding and free COVID tests and masks that was finally approved after the last major wave of the pandemic ended.  These don't address the issues of how voters can't pay to get standard health care procedures done, how some jobs don't pay for adequate sick leave, and how expensive medication can cost over time.  What about marijuana legalization?  What about actual student loan forgiveness?  What about income inequality?  There is so much that hasn't been done, and fluffing a list to try and make Biden's presidency look successful, including things such as "first trans person to be confirmed by the Senate" even though Biden had no affect on or extensions made to Trump-era decisions continuing because of the pandemic, is not fooling anyone.

 

 

[Beyonnaise]

Biden sucks but people genuinely saying "drink bleach" Trump was a good president or anything but a complete buffoon  I immediately don't value your opinion at all if you think he had any value as a leader

 

As a recession is about to hit, this polling obviously reflects economic anxiety felt by people who aren't clued into politics which is happening all over the world, but again that's not to say Biden is doing anything to write home about since the Administration is completely failing on messaging, getting anything popular done, etc.

Edited May 24, 2022 by Beyonnaise

[John Slayne]

anyone who knows anything about polling knows that 1.7% is within the margin of error so this doesn't mean much

 

with that being said, this is hardly a surprise. trump had a loyal following, he was loved as much as he was hated. biden doesn't have a base like that, most people voted for him to get rid of trump, not because they genuinely liked biden or believed in his non-existent vision.

 

if anything i'm surprised biden's rating are this high considering the state in which the us are right now (still no healthcare, expensive education, inflation, major recession after covid, rising living costs, rising prices of oil and energies, baby formula shortage, etc)

[John Slayne]

1 hour ago, ArtForFreedom said:

Joe barely squeaked out? He won 306-232 

this is very disingenuous. trump was less than 100k votes in a handful of states away from winning his 2nd term. the election was actually super close, even though electoral college might not reflect that. biden's victory was anything but landslide 

[khalyan]

14 minutes ago, John Slayne said:

this is very disingenuous. trump was less than 100k votes in a handful of states away from winning his 2nd term. the election was actually super close, even though electoral college might not reflect that. biden's victory was anything but landslide 

This is correct.  Democrats said the same thing about Trump barely winning in 2016 over Clinton with the same electoral college numbers, we can't twist the narrative now that Biden barely won in 2020.

[L.B GAGA]

Imagine thinking Trump was better 

 

Biden needs to get his party together but id rather Republicans win and bring the handsmaid tale to reality, so that lessons are learnt properly by voters. Its clear Trump was not enough of a lesson. 

[ClashAndBurn]

1 hour ago, khalyan said:

This is correct.  Democrats said the same thing about Trump barely winning in 2016 over Clinton with the same electoral college numbers, we can't twist the narrative now that Biden barely won in 2020.

Biden’s margin of victory was even smaller than Trump’s margin of victory over Clinton, despite the popular vote count being much larger and the disparity also being much wider.  

[Erotic]

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[Temporal]

On 5/23/2022 at 2:59 PM, Bloo said:

I hate Trump with all my heart. But he gave his base what they wanted. Biden has given even centrist/conservative Democrats absolutely nothing. He couldn't even bolster a fight to pass voting rights. Let alone expanding Medicare to include vision, dental, and hearing, and several other centrist policies he campaigned on. So, it's not too surprising that Biden's strategy to sit back, do nothing, and appeal to no one has sank his popularity beneath Trump's at this point during his presidency.

The voting rights loss is just... so catastrophically bad for Democrats. They're basically handing Republicans next few election cycles on a silver platter  

[Bloo]

24 minutes ago, Temporal said:

The voting rights loss is just... so catastrophically bad for Democrats. They're basically handing Republicans next few election cycles on a silver platter  

It also makes it all the more frustrating when they tell us to “vote harder” as if they put in the work to make it easier for us to do that. 

[Lovett]

All politicians SUCK. It might be an idea for some of them to actually grow a backbone and stop trying to pander to as many people as possible, whilst actually standing for nothing.

[Sugar-Rush]

It's what he deserves. His time as president has been a disaster other than his handling of Covid-19, but we're still not out of that mess quite yet. His handling of the economy specifically has been embarrassing. 

[i spit on haters]

lol.

[Domination]

Trump did nothing but his base supported him. Biden has done nothing and his base has abandoned him. Not rocket science. Maybe he should think about that student debt forgiveness.

[woohoo]

I feel like if we had any other two democrats besides manchin and sinema to ditch the filibuster so much more could have been done. How exactly could we pass voting rights with it in place? 

[Bloo]

6 minutes ago, woohoo said:

I feel like if we had any other two democrats besides manchin and sinema to ditch the filibuster so much more could have been done. How exactly could we pass voting rights with it in place? 

The problem is bigger than Manchin and Sinema. EIGHT Democrats voted against raising the minimum wage to $15 an hour (which was part of Biden's platform). Manchin and Sinema were the only ones vocally opposing it, though. If we had 2 more Democrats, there likely would be more conservative Democrats that would vote against it and cite fears of Republicans abusing the removal of the filibuster if they reclaimed power. There isn't even much party support for the idea because the Democrats don't seem at all interested in the idea. 

 

So, in this case, it's not just Manchin and Sinema. The Democrats as a whole have been completely avoiding the idea of doing anything with the filibuster.

[woohoo]

2 minutes ago, Bloo said:

The problem is bigger than Manchin and Sinema. EIGHT Democrats voted against raising the minimum wage to $15 an hour (which was part of Biden's platform). Manchin and Sinema were the only ones vocally opposing it, though. If we had 2 more Democrats, there likely would be more conservative Democrats that would vote against it and cite fears of Republicans abusing the removal of the filibuster if they reclaimed power. There isn't even much party support for the idea because the Democrats don't seem at all interested in the idea. 

 

So, in this case, it's not just Manchin and Sinema. The Democrats as a whole have been completely avoiding the idea of doing anything with the filibuster.

It needs to go. I’d like to think we’d get enough seats to remove it and barely hold the house in novmeber but at this point 2024 is gonna be our last election ever and I’m trying to plan an exit out of here. I can’t live under religious rule I refuse. The US was semi fun while it lasted. 

[sugarysunflower]

From a non-American perspective, it seems he's picking up after issues created by a ticking bomb:  

 

• COVID-19 is still lurking, and monkeypox concerns are rising.
• Unstable foreign policy: e.g. US' intervention into Ukraine and providing financial support packages, yet doesn't promote as many packages for its own citizens.
• A looming economy with some of the highest inflation rises in decades, with predictions of a recession.
• Basic Living Requirements (Fuel, Food, Utilities, Rent) are being turned into luxury commodities in nearly a century.
• US-specific issues not being tackled head on: Student Debt Forgiveness pledge, lack of gun control implementation, health insurance premiums skyrocketing. minority rights suppression (abortion, BLM, LGBT issues contending).
• Environmental disasters exponentially increasing.
• Emphatically expanding wealth gap - due to weak tax policies for high net worth individuals and corporations.
• Weakening global economy, with India and China outpacing the US in more industries than ever before. 

 

Now, every President has their issues to handle. Biden has a LOT on his plate, but the main thing he's missing from an outsider's perspective is charisma and a strong aura of leadership, hope and determination.

 

Imo he seems to have a weak identity to push the majority of the American population forward and he doesn't come across as genuinely compassionate or connected to his constituents. It's one disaster after another after another. As they keep building on top of another, that's probably one of the major reasons during the polls people are subconsciously casting in their minds. 

[SwiftLover]

Not worse than Trump & banned from Russia 

 

When’s the last time a president has been this PANNED? 

Edited May 25, 2022 by SwiftLover

[ZeroSuitBritney]

Maybe he should push for universal health care, something that is supported by the majority of Americans by both parties.

 

His donors wouldn't like that though, so he won't.

[ConceptD]

Sadly, it’s pretty obvious what’s going to happen. Biden has been one of the most forgettable, uninspiring presidents in history and has only hurt democrats in the long run. 

[Lil Mxnster]

I wrote it in the old US Politics thread and I'm writing it again: Biden won't solve any of the issues that people have. He's a 90-years-old neo-liberal with no passion or interest in fixing the broken American system. Somehow, his presidency will only work for a little fascist -or Trump himself- winning in 2024 

 

Also, I'm not surprised with these ratings. Biden's honeymoon period ended in summer 2021 with that messy and shameful withdrawal of Afghanistan. Foreign Politics/US Army really matter and they have a big impact in a patriotic society as to US 

[americanlife]

Obviously this is because of gas prices and inflation. Otherwise his ratings would be at least 48-50+. Low ratings for Biden does not mean people want Trump instead.

[GhostBox]

4 minutes ago, americanlife said:

Obviously this is because of gas prices and inflation. Otherwise his ratings would be at least 48-50+. Low ratings for Biden does not mean people want Trump instead.

Exactly.