discussion Terrorist-state Israel attacks journalists funeral

[Jjang]

1 minute ago, ProudLBS said:

wtf is mdna hasbara

 

Yesterday the situation was not clear (and it still isn't) and people were making assumptions out of thin air, I just shared what the other "side" was saying. And you gotta admit the Palestinian authorities' refusal to release the bullet is suspicious, especially since Shireen was an American citizen.

 

If you want to believe out of context Al Jazeera clips that's your choice. I think it was you who during last year's clownery shared a clip of an Israeli running over a Palestinian in Jerusalem. I don't think you later shared the full clip when it surfaced. But again, that's your choice.

The Israeli "Hasbara" is the original source where your propaganda accounts get their info from.  

 

Several journalist eye witnesses say Israeli snipers shot them. How is that any less reliable than Israel's embarrassingly debunked propaganda excuse? Esp. when Israel has notoriously killed dozens of journalists through direct targeted attacks. Moreover, Israel wants to carry a military investigation, they don't want to let the ICC, UN investigators or any international communities in for an honest, transparent investigation. Why are you not skeptical towards that? Esp. when their military investigations are an absolute joke because they have a policy of total impunity. It's an act. Just last week, the Israeli Supreme Court rejected the investigations of the four Gazan children that were killed by a targeted Israeli missile while playing at the beach.

 

But it's the Palestinians who we should be skeptic about because they do not want a joint investigation with the same military force that is occupying their land illegally  I know we've been ignoring the elephant in the room: but Israel's military force was not supposed to be there to begin with. Their presence there violates the same international law Russia is violating while entering Ukraine with their tanks. But because it's Israel, then suddenly it's complicated, suddenly there's a justified reason. There always is - because they're above the law. No? 

 

I have videos of my own Palestinian friends being arbitrarily arrested, or attacked by Israeli forces  I don't need to share any "out of context" videos. My own eyes have been documenting their crimes. Just two weeks ago a friend of mine got detained, verbally abused, fined, and got his phone confiscated forever just because he was an out-spoken Palestinian on social media. I don't need to prove anything to you 

[ProudLBS]

3 minutes ago, Jjang said:

Several journalist eye witnesses say Israeli snipers shot them. How is that any less reliable than Israel's embarrassingly debunked propaganda excuse? Esp. when Israel has notoriously killed dozens of journalists through direct targeted attacks. Moreover, Israel wants to carry a military investigation, they don't want to let the ICC, UN investigators or any international communities in for an honest, transparent investigation. Why are you not skeptical towards that? Esp. when their military investigations are an absolute joke because they have a policy of total impunity. It's an act. Just last week, the Israeli Supreme Court rejected the investigations of the four Gazan children that were killed by a targeted Israeli missile while playing at the beach.

 

But it's the Palestinians who we should be skeptic about because they do not want a joint investigation with the same military force that is occupying their land illegally  I know we've been ignoring the elephant in the room: but Israel's military force was not supposed to be there to begin with. Their presence there violates the same international law Russia is violating while entering Ukraine with their tanks. But because it's Israel, then suddenly it's complicated, suddenly there's a justified reason. There always is - because they're above the law. No?

The bullet being Israeli would be a literal gold mine for the Palestinian cause.

 

There's no reason not to release the bullet if the Palestinian authorities are so sure an Israeli soldier killed Shireen. Plus they already won the PR game.

 

2 minutes ago, Jjang said:

My own eyes have been documenting their crimes.

but don't you live in Gaza 

[Jjang]

12 minutes ago, ProudLBS said:

 

but don't you live in Gaza 

WHAT  I'm genuinely shocked this was your answer. Haven't you academically studied this matter for decades or whatnot?  Sheesh. 

 

Yes I don't live in Gaza - the Palestinians being beaten by Israeli forces we see in the OP are not in Gaza either. 48', 67' and Gazan Palestinians have different sets of struggles but its all connected to the apartheid regime. 

 

Feel free to read about it by the most trusted human rights organization in the world.

 

And the second most trusted human rights group in the world.

 

 

Edited May 13, 2022 by Jjang

[C-Amber]

They can't let her go away with peace. It's not enough they killed her while trying to do her work that she devoted her entire life doing, they had to attack her after she left us. الله يرحمك ويغفر لك يا شيرين.

[ProudLBS]

13 minutes ago, Jjang said:

WHAT  I'm genuinely shocked this was your answer. Haven't you academically studied this matter for decades or whatnot? 

 

Yes I don't live in Gaza - the Palestinians being beaten by Israeli forces we see in the OP are not in Gaza either. 48', 67' and Gazan Palestinians have different sets of struggles but its all connected to the apartheid regime. 

I really think you said you lived in Gaza  I remember I got a WP for making a joke about Israel shutting off your electricity or water supply

 

not "academically" and definitely not for "decades", but I'm well aware of the difference between Gaza and the West Bank 

 

Edited May 13, 2022 by ProudLBS

[Jjang]

2 minutes ago, ProudLBS said:

I really think you said you lived in Gaza  I remember I got a WP for making a joke about Israel shutting off your electricity or water supply

 

not "academically" and definitely not for "decades", but I'm well aware of the difference between Gaza and the West Bank 

 

 

 

Embarrassing and completely offensive. Good day. 

[ZeroSuitBritney]

14 minutes ago, ProudLBS said:

I really think you said you lived in Gaza  I remember I got a WP for making a joke about Israel shutting off your electricity or water supply

 

The fact you would joke about this definitely shows your bias on the topic. Very offensive. Clearly you’re having a joy from seeing Palestinians suffer. 

[Bosque]

full video here, around the 6 minute mark you can see the transport vehicle arrive and the funeral proceeds as planned. 

[ProudLBS]

1 minute ago, ZeroSuitBritney said:

The fact you would joke about this definitely shows your bias on the topic. Very offensive. Clearly you’re having a joy from seeing Palestinians suffer. 

it wasn’t my best moment, but at the time gaza was firing rockets at civilians, also not their best moment

[ZeroSuitBritney]

1 minute ago, ProudLBS said:

it wasn’t my best moment, but at the time gaza was firing rockets at civilians, also not their best moment

Firing “rockets” at civilians protected by a multi billion dollar defense system that deflects any “rockets” incoming. And the only reason they did that was due to the fact Israeli soldiers were attacking people during Ramadan at mosques and elsewhere. Did you forget that? Or does that not fit your narrative on how Palestinians are terrorists and the oppressors?

[ProudLBS]

1 minute ago, ZeroSuitBritney said:

Firing “rockets” at civilians

Period.

[ZeroSuitBritney]

4 minutes ago, ProudLBS said:

Period.

So you’re admitting that they were firing rockets as retaliation to being attacked during Ramadan. Period. 
 

Baby I’m proud of you for not even trying to hide your racism and Islamophobia anymore.

Edited May 13, 2022 by ZeroSuitBritney

[State of Grace.]

Pigs. Pigs. Pigs. Absolutely vile disgusting pigs.

[ProudLBS]

2 minutes ago, ZeroSuitBritney said:

So you’re admitting that they were firing rockets as retaliation to being attacked during Ramadan. Period. 

=> Israel storms Al Aqsa

=> Hamas fires rockets at civilians

 

you:

 

[Cloröx]

The fact that we have ATRL members being so bold supporting Zionists their terrorist gov and even become genocide apologists 

[ClashAndBurn]

6 minutes ago, ProudLBS said:

=> Israel storms Al Aqsa

=> Hamas fires rockets at civilians

 

you:

 

And Israel storming Al Aqsa... isn't them attacking civilians? Who don't have an Iron Dome to protect them from almost every barrage launched their way?

 

Honestly the equivalence from you is an absolutely sick joke.

[ZeroSuitBritney]

7 minutes ago, ProudLBS said:

=> Israel storms Al Aqsa

=> Hamas fires rockets at civilians

 

you:

 

Are you like 16? How is it not registering in your mind that storming a mosque and attacking innocent people praying is not a cute look? What you’re basically saying it’s okay if Israel attacks Palestinian civilians, but it’s not okay for Palestinians to retaliate back, regardless of the method. I guarantee that if they were throwing rocks, instead of firing weak ass missiles that won’t hit ****, you would be saying the same thing. You’re very despicable. I hope you know that. 

[Maddox]

Absolutely disgusting  

[Jjang]

Israelis were tanning on beaches while hospitals, covid centers, media and residential towers were being carpet bombed in Gaza. Not to mention using internationally banned chemical weapons  The size in damage is nowhere near close. The Iron Dome effectively shuts down like 95% of those rockets or minimizes damage. The vast majority of the rockets that do hit hit in mainly open areas. Obviously the intent of attack is the same but to pretend like this is some equal conflict when one is a militia shooting blindly from a sieged prison while the other is a nuclear power mega army who gains unspeakable amount of war funding from the US. This whole notion of collective punishment and that Israel, on top of illegally sieging them, must “defensively” destroy Gaza to the ground if they send even incedinary balloons in their way is very much a colonial mentality. 

 

We have literal leaked footage of Netanyahu saying he specifically does not care to be the aggressor and wants to “bomb everything to the ground to spread fear” on Palestinians. Like that’s literally on tape.

 

It’s not some mystical call to end Jews lol, its plain logic. The Saudi / UAE / US lead siege on Yemen is just as horrid. 

[Rodrighost]

6 minutes ago, Maddox said:

 

Absolutely disgusting  

What a piece of trash. **** colonialism, the racist state of israel and its filthy supporters.

[State of Grace.]

 

Also real live settler colonialism in action in Hebron when people are focused on Shireen’s funeral

 

 

 

[Buddy]

1 hour ago, ProudLBS said:

I really think you said you lived in Gaza  I remember I got a WP for making a joke about Israel shutting off your electricity or water supply

 

not "academically" and definitely not for "decades", but I'm well aware of the difference between Gaza and the West Bank 

 

Jjang has always said they're Palestinian. They've never said they live in Gaza.

[ProudLBS]

2 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said:

And Israel storming Al Aqsa... isn't them attacking civilians? Who don't have an Iron Dome to protect them from almost every barrage launched their way?

 

Honestly the equivalence from you is an absolutely sick joke.

 

10 minutes ago, ZeroSuitBritney said:

Are you like 16? How is it not registering in your mind that storming a mosque and attacking innocent people praying is not a cute look? What you’re basically saying it’s okay if Israel attacks Palestinian civilians, but it’s not okay for Palestinians to retaliate back, regardless of the method. I guarantee that if they were throwing rocks, instead of firing weak ass missiles that won’t hit ****, you would be saying the same thing. You’re very despicable. I hope you know that. 

Attacking other people is NOT okay. Ever.
 

The situation was a mess with all the clashes with the police and stuff, and I’m sure there were better ways to handle the situation without invading the mosque.

 

But are y’all really comparing tear gas and rubber-coated bullets to rockets? Are y’all ******* insane? 

[ZeroSuitBritney]

10 minutes ago, ProudLBS said:

 

Attacking other people is NOT okay. Ever.
 

The situation was a mess with all the clashes with the police and stuff, and I’m sure there were better ways to handle the situation without invading the mosque.

But are y’all really comparing tear gas and rubber-coated bullets to rockets? Are y’all ******* insane? 

When the tear gas and rubber-coated bullets and batons can actually do more damage than shitty homemade rockets that will literally get nowhere due to the Iron Dome defense system, then yes. And then Israel fires back rockets which are 100% guaranteed to take out innocent civilians, targeting places they know rockets aren't even coming from. Baby go look at the death tolls. You're not winning this argument. You never will. You know what Israel is doing for decades now is evil, you just don't care. You love seeing innocent Arabs being attacked, shot, killed, harassed, and evicted without choice. You fully support the genocide going on.

 

Anyways, enjoy your pathetic, racist, Zionist life. I bet you bust a load every time Israel fires a rocket.

 

Edit: Seeing your post in your other thread makes a lot of sense. Sorry you have been brainwashed by your new Israeli boyfriend into thinking they are not the oppressors (if you have just recently become aware of the topic). Hopefully you break up and you can see the light. Wishing you luck xoxo.

Edited May 13, 2022 by ZeroSuitBritney

[State of Grace.]

"clashes"