base talk Bigger Era: Stripped vs Britney

[postsus]

4 hours ago, pieceofgök said:

Nobody denies that Xtina was a force from 1999-2006. She was really popular for a good portion of her career. But after 2006, Xtina tanked and Britney was still able to score a three solo No.1s and one album even had its first three singles go top 10. Xtina doesn't have that. Britney's career has had way more longevity than hers

I disagree, Christina been more successful than Britney in the 2010s.

[Solaria]

33 minutes ago, postsus said:

I disagree, Christina been more successful than Britney in the 2010s.

There is no disagreeing. The numbers are facts

[Diesel is Desire]

Stripped being Xtina's third album now? 

[GoodGuyGoneGhetto]

8 minutes ago, Taeyong said:

Stripped being Xtina's third album now? 

Is it not?

 

Christina Aguilera > Mi Reflego > Stripped

 

There’s also the xmas album which would make it her fourth. 
 

Edited May 12, 2022 by GoodGuyGoneGhetto

[UseYourIllusion2002]

8 hours ago, lovemehateme said:

That sounds like a her problem.  Instead, she went on 2 tours (one with Britney's ex) and still couldn't beat Britney's DWAD tour box office. 

 

Also, that movie grossed 5 times its budget, darling.

“That sounds like a her problem” for not releasing a movie. Well, then for Britney it sounds like a her problem that nobody gave a **** about her singles so they all bombed on the charts. It sounds like a her problem that radio didn’t play her singles. 

 

8 hours ago, brainmaniac said:

They’re acting like Britney had a Star Is Born moment there  when that movie is viewed as a joke and earned Britney a Razzie award for Worst Actress  Not exactly something you want to brag about 

They have to be the most pathetic fan base ever. Coming up with random categories, bringing up flop movies. Us Madonna fans don’t bring up Who’s That Girl (unless we’re talking about the #1 and #2 smash hits on the soundtrack, something Britney never achieved with one album). Crossroads isn’t even a cult classic ffs 

[TheRealGâteau]

How is that even a question when the answer is clearly Stripped? 

 

Stripped had a bigger cultural impact (as seen in its iconic looks being replicated to this day, it being an inspiration to newer artist's albums etc.) and undoubtedly spawned three massive hit singles (Dirrty, Fighter, Beautiful). Outsold, outstreamed and more acclaimed and more remembered. Easy win. 

 

Britney album on the other hand didn't spawn a single hit (did Slave even reach #1 anywhere in the world? lol) and just continued Britney's steep commercial demise into irrelevancy. 

 

 

[The Slayer]

Britney, iconic.

[Jeremiah]

26 minutes ago, The Slayer said:

Britney, iconic.

I agree. The level of iconicness of the Britney era is unmatched. From the iconic singles like "I'm Slave 4 U" and "I'm Not A Girl, Not Yet A Woman," which are pop staples with iconic catchphrases and iconic visuals attached, to the impact the album had in the music landscape at the time and future generations. Artists like Normani, Miley Cyrus, Selena Gomez, HAIM, Becky G, Jessie Ware, Betty Who, Camila Cabello and Meghan Trainor have explicitly cited the era as source of inspiration and/or covered songs off the album. No wonder it's considered today as a pivotal moment in pop.

 

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How Britney Spears’ ‘I’m A Slave 4 U’ Shifted Her Career and Pop’s Direction

 

Our 2001 Week continues with a look back at the era of Britney Spears' pivotal self-titled third album, and in particular its head-turning lead single and music video, "I'm a Slave 4 U."

 

With sugary pop hits like Mandy Moore’s “Candy” and Christina Aguilera’s “What A Girl Wants” dominating the culture at the turn of the century, it’s easy to see why “I’m A Slave 4 U” changed the tides — it was a move away from what we were used to hearing not just from the Louisiana native, but from the pop music that took over airwaves and TRL at the time.

 

Thanks to a cutting-edge assist from The Neptunes (who would quickly establish their own lane as a defining sound in early-’00s pop, as well as in the era’s hip-hop), Spears essentially became the poster child for this good-girl-gone-grown pivot in the Digital Age. Not only did her female contemporaries at the time try to keep up with her about-face — most notably Christina Aguilera during her “Dirrty” era in 2002, in which she also enlisted hip-hop acts Redman and Lil Kim — but in the 2010s, when a then-new wave of fresh-faced talent followed Spears’ lead.

 

Billboard (2021)

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For The Record: Inside Britney Spears' Voyage From Girlhood To Womanhood On Her Transformative Album 'Britney'

In the newest episode of For The Record, revisit Britney Spears' classic 2001 album 'Britney' and consider how she cast off the fetters of teen pop to become a full-fledged artist

 

Twenty years after its release, on Nov. 6, 2001, Britney remains a seminal pop document, one in which Spears became her own artist and revealed her true essence to the pop landscape and wider world.

 

It's impossible to say for sure, but Britney remains a pivot point: The album establishes Spears as much more than a coquettish young thing singing catchy songs, but someone more than able to take the wheel, navigating her spaceship from girlhood to womanhood with grace.

 

Spears' prayers were answered: Two decades later, Britney's impact remains unassailable — python or no python.

 

Grammy Awards (2021)

 

Adding in the iconic fashion style of Britney at the time and the cult classic movie "Crossroads," the era was truly a moment, much more appreciated today.

 

 

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The Britney Era Turned a Pop Star Into a Fashion Icon

 

In honor of the game-changing album’s 20th anniversary this week, Vogue is looking back at some of the singer’s best looks from the era

 

Vogue (2021)

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20 Years Later, the Road Trip Style in Crossroads Holds Up

 

Given that the fashion world is gaga for Y2K at the moment, the trio’s looks couldn’t feel more current. Take a look at the spring 2022 collections from Blumarine, Maisie Wilen, and Area, and you can easily spot some of the 2000s pieces that the Crossroads gals wear.

 

Vogue (2022)

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Why it’s time to revisit the style impact of Crossroads

The Britney Spears-starring road trip movie was an underrated staple of y2k culture. 20 years later, it’s become a Gen Z fashion Bible.

 

Vice (2022)

[brainmaniac]

3 hours ago, UseYourIllusion2002 said:

“That sounds like a her problem” for not releasing a movie. Well, then for Britney it sounds like a her problem that nobody gave a **** about her singles so they all bombed on the charts. It sounds like a her problem that radio didn’t play her singles. 

It’s definitely a her problem lol. The Britney fans as usual like to shift the blame to everyone but Britney and act like stations at the time refused to even touch her music because of some alleged ban.

 

But before the reset, someone posted a thread exposing the truth. Major radio stations were attempting to play her songs from that era, but only dropped them because the radio call out scores were atrocious 

 

3 hours ago, UseYourIllusion2002 said:

They have to be the most pathetic fan base ever.

 

Coming up with random categories, bringing up flop movies. Us Madonna fans don’t bring up Who’s That Girl (unless we’re talking about the #1 and #2 smash hits on the soundtrack, something Britney never achieved with one album). Crossroads isn’t even a cult classic ffs 

!!! It really doesn’t get more pathetic than that base 

 

Yeah, if you guys brought up Who’s That Girl, that would be understandable with its huge soundtrack success. But you don’t need to because Madonna has an actual notable movie with Evita that actually was a pivotal moment in her career that even got Madonna another Golden Globe for Best Actress.

 

All Britney got from Crossroads was a panned movie and a Razzie Award for Worst Actress 

[Plastic]

6 hours ago, NausAllien said:

Sure, Britney had a minor second peak with Circus and Femme Fatale, but it literally last 2+ years. It didn't help her with her successive releases, and she's practically RETIRED now. Who knows if she'll ever come back to the music industry. Christina, on the other hand, is still booked and busy. She's still making and releasing music and amazing music videos. She's headlining festivals and selling out arenas in Europe. Where's Britney now exactly?

What a bizarre post lmao  "Where's Britney now exactly?"

[Trash]

3 hours ago, GoodGuyGoneGhetto said:

Is it not?

 

Christina Aguilera > Mi Reflego > Stripped

 

There’s also the xmas album which would make it her fourth. 
 

There's also Just Be Free which would make it her fifth

 

[dirrtydiana]

Not Jeremiah coming in with the hot receipts and all therealgatou has is some graph from a site where xtina isn’t even relevant enough to have one

 

 

 

 

not “where is Britney now?” -I -help 

Edited May 12, 2022 by dirrtydiana

[Jay07]

2 minutes ago, dirrtydiana said:

Not Jeremiah coming in with the hot receipts and all therealgatou has is some graph from a site where xtina isn’t even relevant enough to have one

 

[D.M.F]

Britney faded quick according to that Chartmasters graph. Xtina went, down, down, up, down while Britney went down, down, down, down, down, done lmao. Stripped is bigger than Britney herself.

[dirrtydiana]

1 minute ago, D.M.F said:

Britney faded quick according to that Chartmasters graph. Xtina went, down, down, up, down while Britney went down, down, down, down, down, done lmao. Stripped is bigger than Britney herself.

Good luck booking that Chartsmasters graph for xtina you speak of

[Jay07]

1 minute ago, D.M.F said:

Britney faded quick according to that Chartmasters graph. Xtina went, down, down, up, down while Britney went down, down, down, down, down, done lmao. Stripped is bigger than Britney herself.

Curious, what is Christina's "up" moment? The 20 seconds on the Maroon 5 song?

[postsus]

5 minutes ago, D.M.F said:

Britney faded quick according to that Chartmasters graph. Xtina went, down, down, up, down while Britney went down, down, down, down, down, done lmao. Stripped is bigger than Britney herself.

Legends only.

[SinnerCity]

Stripped had better single runs but Britney had more success in terms of sales and touring. Let us not forget that Britney was banned on the radio during that era so that affected the charts, however, she managed to achieve exceptional stats worldwide.

 

I would say that Stripped did more for Xtina’s career than Britney did for Britney’s considering she was already the best selling female among her peers and a bigger artist success wise.

 

Christina couldn’t replicate her success after that era whereas Britney managed to have better stats and equally outstanding sales from 2003-2011.

 

So objectively speaking Stripped was the bigger era whereas Britney was just an ok era for Britney.

Edited May 12, 2022 by SinnerCity

[GoodGuyGoneGhetto]

42 minutes ago, Trash said:

There's also Just Be Free which would make it her fifth

 

Fifth?

 

In that case…

 

Bigger Era: Stripped vs My Prerogative: GH incoming.

 

 

Edited May 12, 2022 by GoodGuyGoneGhetto

[Protocol]

4 hours ago, TheRealGâteau said:

How is that even a question when the answer is clearly Stripped? 

 

Stripped had a bigger cultural impact (as seen in its iconic looks being replicated to this day, it being an inspiration to newer artist's albums etc.) and undoubtedly spawned three massive hit singles (Dirrty, Fighter, Beautiful). Outsold, outstreamed and more acclaimed and more remembered. Easy win. 

 

Britney album on the other hand didn't spawn a single hit (did Slave even reach #1 anywhere in the world? lol) and just continued Britney's steep commercial demise into irrelevancy. 

 

 

Ok but the Slave performance is also iconic, also referenced and copied to this day, and in fact the Britney era influenced Stripped in the first place.

 

Also not you using a Chart Masters receipt when Britney's figures are higher than Stripped's

[UseYourIllusion2002]

1 hour ago, brainmaniac said:

It’s definitely a her problem lol. The Britney fans as usual like to shift the blame to everyone but Britney and act like stations at the time refused to even touch her music because of some alleged ban.

 

But before the reset, someone posted a thread exposing the truth. Major radio stations were attempting to play her songs from that era, but only dropped them because the radio call out scores were atrocious 

 

!!! It really doesn’t get more pathetic than that base 

 

Yeah, if you guys brought up Who’s That Girl, that would be understandable with its huge soundtrack success. But you don’t need to because Madonna has an actual notable movie with Evita that actually was a pivotal moment in her career that even got Madonna another Golden Globe for Best Actress.

 

All Britney got from Crossroads was a panned movie and a Razzie Award for Worst Actress 

Yeah I remember when I lurked on ATRL last year seeing that thread and how Britney was at the bottom of callouts  I guess Crossroads, a movie that added nothing to Britney's career has more validation than charts, streams, sales, and awards 

[JustHoran]

On 5/11/2022 at 4:51 PM, D.M.F said:

Xtina wins again. Britney’s forgotten and all the singles flopped.

Then why is Britney the album getting more streams than Stripped in 2022? Weird.

[JustHoran]

6 hours ago, UseYourIllusion2002 said:

Yeah I remember when I lurked on ATRL last year seeing that thread and how Britney was at the bottom of callouts  I guess Crossroads, a movie that added nothing to Britney's career has more validation than charts, streams, sales, and awards 

There literally was a radio ban on the major radio stations lmao. Fans would request and they would not play her, and I knew someone who was a DJ back then and he literally was not allowed to play her for a while. Funny how Britney's "flop" singles are still getting more streams than Stripped in 2022. It's almost like ones remembered and one's not

Edited May 13, 2022 by JustHoran

[Mystic Boy]

Stripped and its not even close

 

[PrudenceHCharmed]

29 minutes ago, JustHoran said:

There literally was a radio ban on the major radio stations lmao. Fans would request and they would not play her, and I knew someone who was a DJ back then and he literally was not allowed to play her for a while. Funny how Britney's "flop" singles are still getting more streams than Stripped in 2022. It's almost like ones remembered and one's not

But someone posted Stripped had more streams so what are you talking about? 

 

Britney scored her biggest radio hit in the Circus- Femme Fatale era but it didn't translate into album sales and streams either.