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2024 US Election Megathread 🇺🇸🏛️


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It was decided based on feedback from the spring 2023 town hall to transition this thread back to being election specific. With the Civics section being able to house specific threads on many issues, we think having a generalized politics thread is not completely necessarily anymore. 
 

With that said, please continue to be respectful and remember that you do not always need to respond to everyone. 

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17 minutes ago, Espresso said:

 

Like that excuses them putting up a upside down flag at their home 💀 

 

he should resign and take Thomas with him. 

 

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17 hours ago, Tovitov said:

Is it really that surprising?

 

The unrest of the 60s foretold the deeply conservative 70s and 80s and nearly 20 years of straight Republican control of the White House. 

 

While I'm not saying this is bound to happen, it's a decent enough parallel that should make any leftist(center or otherwise) concerned. 

Biden WILL NOT win this election, I fear. Between the DEI ****, the fact that he's trying to straddle the line on Israel/Palestine and the fact that it's very obvious most politicians support Israel between the anti-semitism bill and the bill that the house passed to stop Biden from blocking weapons to Israel. Meanwhile, Trump called for the death penalty for anti-semitism back in 2018.

 

10 hours ago, GraceRandolph said:

Support for Roe is strong throughout the country.

 

Support for Palestine/largest anti-war movement in years is underway.

 

Support for a wealth tax is popular.

 

Support for single payer healthcare is popular.

 

Support for gay marriage is popular.

 

Things aren't nearly as conservative as yall make them out to be.

Support for Roe is pretty weak overall, despite how it may seem. The left is an incredibly vocal minority and they have been for the past decade and that's continuing. It doesn't help when Biden says **** during the SOTU about "the middle up"; making it very clear he doesn't care about the poor. Something else I think deserves observation in the things you're mentioning is the transgender debate (ie; sports, bathrooms, etc). I see tons of that ****. I think gay marriage is less of an issue on the right's radar versus transgenderism.

Biden has a single card to play, and based off some of the headlines I've seen, he's played it. and that is legalization of marijuana. He can't play the immigrants voting card since that's already going to court (since he planned on giving states that took in immigrants extra electoral votes in order to stack it in his favor).

I'm saying all this **** as a centrist watching all of this go down. Biden has to figure out his next move or rig the election like it was said he did in 2020. (though so many people believing he rigged it also hurts his stance).

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9 minutes ago, hopeisademonbitch said:

Biden WILL NOT win this election

Y'all do realize he's literally just a poling error of like 1-2 points in the 3 swing states right now (which are basically tied) to win the EC ? 💀

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2 minutes ago, GhostBox said:

Y'all do realize he's literally just a poling error of like 1-2 points in the 3 swing states right now (which are basically tied) to win the EC ? 💀

You do realize that he has to win all three of said swing states where he is currently behind (even if in the margin of error). That is still a statistically unlikely event.  
 

and for the record, he is behind and outside the polling error in NV, AZ, and GA

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5 minutes ago, GhostBox said:

Y'all do realize he's literally just a poling error of like 1-2 points in the 3 swing states right now (which are basically tied) to win the EC ? 💀

I understand that, but he's down in a lot of states and I would guarantee he's going to do something else stupid, which seems to be his MO.

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The fact is, at this point Biden is the underdog and as an incumbent, you should never be. So obviously something is going horribly wrong for him to be flopping this hard.

 

If he barely scrapes the electoral college win, rather than expanding his majority, that should still be seen as a failure. Trump failed to do that with the Electoral College, but he expanded his vote total in a high turnout election. This election, though, I could see turnout being lower than 2016 due to the choices being that horrible and unwanted.

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29 minutes ago, byzantium said:

You do realize that he has to win all three of said swing states where he is currently behind (even if in the margin of error). That is still a statistically unlikely event.  
 

and for the record, he is behind and outside the polling error in NV, AZ, and GA

Yes and he can win all 3. In fact those 3 are his best chances and he's doing the best in those 3. 

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1 minute ago, GhostBox said:

Yes and he can win all 3. In fact those 3 are his best chances and he's doing the best in those 3. 

And the US Men's Team "can" win the World Cup.  That does not mean it is likely as you so imply. 

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52 minutes ago, byzantium said:

You do realize that he has to win all three of said swing states where he is currently behind (even if in the margin of error). That is still a statistically unlikely event.  
 

and for the record, he is behind and outside the polling error in NV, AZ, and GA

To be fair, it's still pre-debate. And there's something to be said about how our polling discourse, similar to the rest of our political discourse, is absolutely broken.

 

 

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25 minutes ago, byzantium said:

And the US Men's Team "can" win the World Cup.  That does not mean it is likely as you so imply. 

We shall see. 🤷

 

 

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13 minutes ago, Kassi said:

To be fair, it's still pre-debate. And there's something to be said about how our polling discourse, similar to the rest of our political discourse, is absolutely broken.

 

 

It is generally known that the incumbent president will suffer a little going into the first debate.  They are the ones that need to defend their position.  The thing that differentiates this election is for the first time in about 130 years, both candidates are former presidents and thus both poll as if they are the incumbent.

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9 minutes ago, GhostBox said:

We shall see. 🤷

 

 

The desire of liberals to bury their heads in the sand and ignore the reality of the situation because it causes them slight discomfort is how we got Trump in the first place.

 

Spoiler

Not to mention how the Nazis gained power.  

The fact that you are willing to risk this country's democracy over your desire for complacency is a bit sickening.

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1 hour ago, GhostBox said:

Like that excuses them putting up a upside down flag at their home 💀 

 

he should resign and take Thomas with him. 

 

The story he made blaming his wife makes no sense. That area school district was all online learning in January 2021 :rip: 

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15 minutes ago, FameFatale said:

The story he made blaming his wife makes no sense. That area school district was all online learning in January 2021 :rip: 

Yup he lied 

 

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No meaningful difference between the two campaigns. None at all. 
 

 

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The polls have been all over the place. Presidential polls, senate primary polls ect 

 

Past election results are more predictive than polls, especially early polls. Democrats over performed in the 2022 and 2023 elections 
 

Is Biden so unpopular that he will lose despite the strength of his party? Possibly 

 

Citing polls as the main reason Biden will not win is a weak argument 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Vroom Vroom said:

The polls have been all over the place. Presidential polls, senate primary polls ect 

 

Past election results are more predictive than polls, especially early polls. Democrats over performed in the 2022 and 2023 elections 
 

Is Biden so unpopular that he will lose despite the strength of his party? Possibly 

 

Citing polls as the main reason Biden will not win is a weak argument 

 

 

This :gaycat2: Many ppl are taking polls for granted, meanwhile it's still kinda early to scream that Trump will win 100%. He has a lot of legal problems, his campaign is total mess so far, his crazy statements and proposals are keep dividing the whole country. GOP are weak and unprofessional like never before and all thanks to Trump and his lunatics, Idk but for him to win election there should be a really low turnout :giraffe: We need to wait for debates and start pay attention to polls from September, since it's a basically a beginning of crucial time where the whole picture become a lot clearer. 

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