fan base Normani

[Flare]

1 minute ago, Crank_It_Up said:

How can S10 and RCA get on board if it seems like Normani is the one doing this? We see Anitta actively promoting her music as much as possible and she’s under the same management…it feels like Normani is the one who doesn’t want to lift a finger and expects to get a hit. Like, girl, enough, that’s not how it works...

Normani can’t decide when her singles nor album drop. So yeah RCA has a blame to take. S10 takes a blame because management basically can lobby for their artist to show up in places and lists they have no business being in. For example, HER’s management had her everywhere before her album was ever even a topic.

 

Normani used to get pushed to do more 2018-19 but it’s clear we’re way past that point and now it’s negatively effecting her career.

[popularmoonlight]

It feels like a snub not seeing WS up there in Video of The Year - but I agree when y’all say we can’t expect noms when she barely moves her fingers. Things will not fall into her lap. No one is giving out a “Best R&B act” nom if shes not a R&B act - read this as: There’s no body of work to be considered. And yes, this is her last chance/year to build anything up. We’ve seen that the industry has been moving on from her and it will only keep going. 
 

But I honestly have no expectations of her becoming a mega star. She has a name, will probably have a nice album attached to it, a niche fan base and that’s all 

[Azulito]

I was gonna say her being “snubbed” is not surprising since she still hasn’t released an album but then I saw the nominations and…

 

AND in Video of the Year

 

This should hopefully be a wake up call for Normani. We need more content, consistently. 

[Flare]

9 minutes ago, popularmoonlight said:

It feels like a snub not seeing WS up there in Video of The Year - but I agree when y’all say we can’t expect noms when she barely moves her fingers. Things will not fall into her lap. No one is giving out a “Best R&B act” nom if shes not a R&B act - read this as: There’s no body of work to be considered. And yes, this is her last chance/year to build anything up. We’ve seen that the industry has been moving on from her and it will only keep going. 
 

But I honestly have no expectations of her becoming a mega star. She has a name, will probably have a nice album attached to it, a niche fan base and that’s all 

EXACTLY. The only way she survives this is the one thing she refuses to do which is DROP THE ALBUM AND PUSH IT. 

 

She needs to have an era. It doesn’t have to be perfect but it needs to be fun, have multiple singles/videos, remixes, tv performances, festival dates, a small tour with a opener who will get her buzz (like how Latto had Santana as her opener), and interviews on tv, podcasts, radio, etc.

 

Spoiler

Normani has to make herself, her music, and everything more accessible. It’s so weird how closed off and sensitive she’s become after surviving the hell that is Fifth Harmony. She should have been soaring (with the business/marketing/media side of her career) since solo is much easier than group dynamics (one member getting more attention than another, and things like that). IDK what is going on  

 

and this is my last post on this, I’m not trying to take up the whole page but WTF is going on anymore?

 

Edited June 1, 2022 by Flare

[popularmoonlight]

Double post

Edited June 1, 2022 by popularmoonlight

[wildsidenormani]

9 minutes ago, Flare said:

Normani can’t decide when her singles nor album drop.

I think the decision isn't solely hers but she does have somewhat of a say and that she is partly to blame as well

 

7 minutes ago, popularmoonlight said:

But I honestly have no expectations of her becoming a mega star.

I really hate saying this but I've slowly come to this realisation too, that she won't become the MPG type of star we thought she would back in 2018-19. Everybody seems to be moving on from that vision of her becoming an MPG/mega star, including Normani herself and that's okay - we gotta accept it. I hate to sound so dramatic and pessimistic when we know we're getting new stuff this month but I think all of this is fair to say and doesn't sound too far-fetched. I'd love to be proved wrong, although I'm not holding my breath. 

 

[Flare]

2 minutes ago, wildsidenormani said:

I think the decision isn't solely hers but she does have somewhat of a say and that she is partly to blame as well

 

I really hate saying this but I've slowly come to this realisation too, that she won't become the MPG type of star we thought she would back in 2018-19. Everybody seems to be moving on from that vision of her becoming an MPG/mega star, including Normani herself and that's okay - we gotta accept it. I hate to sound so dramatic and pessimistic when we know we're getting new stuff this month but I think all of this is fair to say and doesn't sound too far-fetched. I'd love to be proved wrong, although I'm not holding my breath. 

 

Normani can take a bit of blame but it’s only like 15% at most. She played with her studio time and scrapped songs, so that’s one reason we got all these damn delays. However, we know labels are in charge of like everything release wise so let’s not move from who should be blamed. If the label said “okay Candy Paint is dropping next week” then it’s dropping next week, she gets no say.

 

I still think Normani can “blow up”, it just will be more of an album 2 thing unless she gets lucky before then during the album 1 cycle (which Candy Paint has to do ). 

[Crank_It_Up]

1 hour ago, Flare said:

Normani can’t decide when her singles nor album drop. So yeah RCA has a blame to take. S10 takes a blame because management basically can lobby for their artist to show up in places and lists they have no business being in. For example, HER’s management had her everywhere before her album was ever even a topic.

 

Normani used to get pushed to do more 2018-19 but it’s clear we’re way past that point and now it’s negatively effecting her career.

That's fair. I think all parties - RCA, S10, and Normani are all to blame. I could go on and on about RCA and S10 because I do find them being terrible at this entire goddamn ordeal. These pushbacks and music holdbacks and random promotion syncs such as the brand deals BUT no actual performances are so annoying. 

 

However, with Normani, I am starting to feel like she doesn't have the drive, or passion to actively promote her material or be an artist that provide regular content. To be a star nowadays, you'd need to maintain attention from the fans (at least on social media), regardless of releasing material and she's simply not doing that. She cannot just drop a song and then completely vanish for 8 months and expect to have a solid fan base...that's how you lose interest FAST.

 

 

Edited June 1, 2022 by Crank_It_Up

[shelven]

1 hour ago, Marvin said:

AND in Video of the Year

Yeah, even though we can talk on end about how she deserves these snubs because of her lack of releases and her constant disappearing act, this one in particular was kind of ridiculous and I think fans have a right to be pressed  Even taking stan goggles off, Wild Side's video was absolutely more memorable and impactful than nearly every video that got nominated.

[remming]

Having a great team makes a big difference when it comes to award shows so I am not shocked.

[AFullMoonlight]

Candy Paint dropping after that award show airs. Isn’t it? 

[tachiwaka]

11 hours ago, NormaniReign said:

NO!!!!! WE NEED SEAN

I feel like Brian has finally found a dancing queen to inspire him since Britney met Federline! He’s going to give Mani EVERYTHING!

 

And echoing everyone else - the BET snub overall isn’t surprising but Video of the Year is a true slap in the face. She did it to herself, though.

[IvysPartition]

Twitter being convinced that she’s being sabotaged by Bey is really fun to me because it seems so far off. 

[halfhabibi]

6 hours ago, Flare said:

Normani needs to drop Candy Paint with a strong rollout. This feels like her last chance. She’s getting snubbed because she hasn’t had that BIG SOLO hit yet. It’s time for her to do it. 

 

The fans should use this as motivation (no pun intended) and make sure Candy Paint smashes hard. From snippet 1 to radio adds day. Just run all the numbers up. 

Don't think this is her "last chance". Wild Side debuted higher and lasted longer on the charts than anything Chloe has released and she got multiple nominations.
 

Lil Nas X has 3 biggest songs last year and got snubbed. It's just a popularity thing. Chloe is all over the news and controversial, that's why she's in there. Love her but neither of those songs or videos are coming close to WS in quality and popularity

[Camilitau.u]

3 minutes ago, halfhabibi said:

Don't think this is her "last chance". Wild Side debuted higher and lasted longer on the charts than anything Chloe has released and she got multiple nominations.
 

Lil Nas X has 3 biggest songs last year and got snubbed. It's just a popularity thing. Chloe is all over the news and controversial, that's why she's in there. Love her but neither of those songs or videos are coming close to WS in quality and popularity

I have not seen Chloe anywhere. what news? She’s not that relevant to be there. Lil Nas is actually famous and x10 more controversial than her so that’s not an excuse. The only reason she is in there bc of Parkwood. I mean Beyonce got nominated for Director of the Year for goodness sake. Awards are all bought and just label politics. 

[jdanton2]

wonder if the BET snub could effect the release date .

[halfhabibi]

27 minutes ago, Camilitau.u said:

I have not seen Chloe anywhere. what news? She’s not that relevant to be there. Lil Nas is actually famous and x10 more controversial than her so that’s not an excuse. The only reason she is in there bc of Parkwood. I mean Beyonce got nominated for Director of the Year for goodness sake. Awards are all bought and just label politics. 

Chloe got like 4 nominations with a lower performing single. I'm pointing out that she's not getting snubbed because of her success and I don't think Candy Paint is her "final shot".

This is literally her FIRST shot. It's her first album. And first official rollout

[Camilitau.u]

16 minutes ago, halfhabibi said:

Chloe got like 4 nominations with a lower performing single. I'm pointing out that she's not getting snubbed because of her success and I don't think Candy Paint is her "final shot".

This is literally her FIRST shot. It's her first album. And first official rollout

What “success”?

[Not Like The Movies]

let's not be messy about Chloe. stop! 

[Flare]

Y’all starting on Chloe and downplaying her is weird because she’s nominated and Normani isn’t.

 

In Lil Nas’ case, they at least let him perform last year. Normani hasn’t performed once. 
 

We are losing the PLOT. Normani is not invited, not performing, not being nominated, and just a whole lotta “nots” and “no’s” when her career needs to be saying “YES” and “MORE” right now leading up to the album. 
 

Spoiler

AND BRANDON IS THE ISSUE

jk

Edited June 2, 2022 by Flare

[EnoughSaid]

Stop talking about Chloe. Normani isn’t and hasn’t been doing nearly enough and that’s the simple truth. Like girl, how many of us are left here that actively care about her? I count 10 or 12 at best

[TheFlyingRobot]

I'm listening to the Candy Paint Snippet and while I actually like it, I still don't think it's going to be the "hit" that she needs. I don't know why but I think she just needs some Urban Pop song, the thing is that isn't the type of music she wants to make but it's what's kinda demanded from her.

 

I think everyone expected pop music from her but she is definitely more RnB leading and influenced, which is fine but she's not finding those songs that really click. Candy Paint sounds good to be but not a mega hit. I don't know, she just needs something with an undeniable hook. She's had access to so many people over these years I just don't get that she can't release stuff better than "Fair" and now we're lingering on "Candy Paint" and it doesn't sound like it's a chart topper (it does sound like a good dance song, just not commercial enough).

 

Not really sure where she goes from here if the song doesn't do well. Like others have said, it really does feel like her final chance to strike.

[remming]

Awards shows have never been about who is the most visible. If that's was the case lil nas x probably would have been nominated. It's about what your team can do and if they actively campaign to get you noms and awards. Literally everyone has a better team than Normani and it is what it is.

[halfhabibi]

Y'all are dumb with the "final chance" comments, acting like artists are disposable. Even if Normani never reaches Top 10 status, she's still a valued artist. This unnecessary pressure is impossible to achieve, let her release her **** without dismissing it if it doesn't chart, that way she can grow and carve her own lane that doesn't need to be a copycat of another's career

Edited June 2, 2022 by halfhabibi
Grammar

[halfhabibi]

 

Twitter nation thinks this is for Candy Paint video but that makes so sense lol