PrettyHurts Posted July 10, 2022 Posted July 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, jane said: What i find the most fascinating about this is: She worked 2 years on a project and then she releases one single with no music video and then goes ghost again for two weeks? I mean at least before she had the excuse of being too busy, of touring while launching an era etc.. What is the excuse now? Two years + of forced rest during a pandemic is kinda making it hard to excuse this one away. Sorry to say. We are also not a cult, we can talk about her weird moves. I can't tell if we're getting nothing atm because there's more to come (ie visual album, virtual concert, other acts etc) or we're getting nothing atm because there's not much else saying bey doesn't have things planned makes no sense, but it's hard not to think this when we literally being served nothing
bijonse Posted July 10, 2022 Posted July 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, ToraeGilt said: I same. It’s probably why I’m not disappointed or frustrated cuz shes doing a lot more this era so far considering what she did for her last few projects !!! like for lemonade she didn’t even confirm there was an album coming and with self titled did secretive bullshit all year this is so much better. she could be doing more but it’s a step in the right direction maybe she will pull out all the stops closer to the release date? my thing is where’s the video. like if it’s a part of the film wouldn’t it make the whole project more hype if she spliced it out of the movie and we could tell and started coming up with theories about the movie and stuff like helloooooo. the youtube profile pic thing is telling me maybe she realizes and something is coming tomorrow. how long was it between her deleting her profile pics and her putting out break my soul?
BnPac Posted July 10, 2022 Posted July 10, 2022 (edited) Spoiler I have no dog in this fight because tbh I don't care for the video anymore or the era at large, the video might be released first week to try to pander and maximize a one-shot-chance at having a double on the Hot 100 and BB200. What I find disingenuous are fans who are OK with aforementioned strategy despite it not doing anything for fans' experience but then complain about Hive caring about charts. And somehow the ones who like to claim they don't care about charts to feel superior are also the ones I see in charts' threads celebrating her achievements or following how the song is doing and telling fans they shouldn't be complaining because :"the song is doing well on the charts". Like pick a SIDE!!! Also no, Beyoncé has never sold only music! Never! She has always sold a whole experience. That's why back in the day, early 00's before DIL was even out, we were such a rarity on blogs that "they" collectively gave us a name : the Hive. Beyoncé didn't give us that name, we didn't take it from one of her songs. We behaved like a Beehive because she had always given more, cared more and was also a once-in-a-lifetime artist. I didn't become a fan just because of her music, none of us did. It's the reason why she could put her music online a Friday night and not have it bomb. It's the reason that some like me are still here after 25 years. If she was selling just the music and zero entertainment around that then she wouldn't have made us pay 40€ shipping to buy ahead of time MORE than just the music. If that escaped some of you, you could very much find a job in her team, you'll fit just fine. I saw two posts mentioning pandering : what does that even mean? She ditched RnB for a more accessible sound because she is pandering and selling out. She had exactly 4 boxes on her site because she panders to the BB rules, she gave us an option to buy a song on her website at more than double the Itunes' price to pander, she has limited edition of vinyls and various versions of vinyls and CDs because she's pandering. The problem is that she only puts effort when pandering lines direct money to her pockets but does not pander when it's for her fans' enjoyment. Acting like having a song widely available should be cause for celebration or waiting for an acknowledgement of her music by said artist is "effort" or "pandering" is conditioning and reprogramming. That's basic stuff some Hive here are asking. Regarding the thread : there's no reason why both complainers (mostly jokes) and non complainers can not co-exist. You guys make things more serious than it should be. If you enjoy the era, this shouldn't prevent that. However I have to admit I feel very uncomfortable reading jokes about her relationship or her husband hurting her again, I think we should draw the line there tbh. Anyway I just want the 15 remaining songs and the tour. And if a trilogy is happening, even better. Edited July 10, 2022 by BnPac
Mitsouko Posted July 10, 2022 Posted July 10, 2022 22 minutes ago, Tripthelight said: I hear you, and can acknowledge some truth in what you’re saying, but respectfully, you’re missing the point of what so many people have repeatedly said over the last 100 pages. I can only speak for myself, and my frustration with this process has nothing to do with success and gloating. Think about it this way: Like so many in the hive, I fell in love with Bey through her live performances, and the rare, unscripted moments when she lowered the veil and shared her passion, drive, and inspiration for the work. And while there’s YouTube and Twitter for quick throwback moments, there is an entire generation that simply don’t know Bey’s artistry in the same way that many of us to do, particularly the ways that cemented her legacy as one the greats. We’re not asking Bey to break her back and be inauthentic, but I do think there are innovative ways for her team to connect and engage with the fans without sacrificing her artistic integrity or peace. And like BGKC said, we’re just talking to talk. Once again you’ve put something into words so perfectly I can only sit back and admire. I couldn’t care less about numbers and gloating. My other faves are Madead and Kylocal Minobody ffs, charts and me ain’t seen eye to eye in a long time. I just expected something different this time. I’ve grown weary of the… displayed impassivity of the last decade. Stoicyoncé is boring. Surprisedropyoncé is tired. Even the lighter moments since ST took on a seriousness because everything is created in utter secrecy and unleashed suddenly and followed by silence. I don’t want to see her twerking on tiktok but I didn’t sign up to stan Enya either.
Devin Posted July 10, 2022 Posted July 10, 2022 9 minutes ago, BnPac said: However I have to admit I feel very uncomfortable reading jokes about her relationship or her husband hurting her again, I think we should draw the line there tbh. !!
BnPac Posted July 10, 2022 Posted July 10, 2022 59 minutes ago, Tripthelight said: These two options can and should coexist. But let’s be clear, accepting less than the bare minimum does not make you a superior stan. Oops, you said it better. Anyway let's go back to ranking albums or picking songs we haven't heard or placing bets on 1st week sales. Where is our good sis @Devin at?
ToraeGilt Posted July 10, 2022 Posted July 10, 2022 And don’t get me wrong either cuz if Beyoncé manage to be commercial this era I will be singing praises BUT it’s just not my primary focus. I’m more concerned about the content. I want a film or music video for each song. I would appreciate a documentary taking us through the entire process. For now though I’m just sitting back and enjoying the era as it unfolds
Devin Posted July 10, 2022 Posted July 10, 2022 I can see Renaissance being 40-60M on first day streams.
Janelle Posted July 10, 2022 Posted July 10, 2022 Y'all is sucking the life out the thread I don't want to come to this thread and see y'all complaining like stfu and get a life and y'all want be focus on the rollout stop worshiping Beyonce and just buy or stream the music that's it that's all y'all so damn dramatic get the **** out this thread so those of us who are not crazy and over dramatic can actually discuss the music. Damn y'all so ******* lame.
jane Posted July 10, 2022 Posted July 10, 2022 if she delivers a film on Netflix that will come out the same day which would explain the lack of visuals now, i will be the first one to feel like an idiot and say sorry but as of now it does look weird. Not much we can do either but wait lol.
Janelle Posted July 10, 2022 Posted July 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Tripthelight said: There are hive perfectly OK with Bey doing less than the bare minimum, and hive that understandably want more. These two options can and should coexist. But let’s be clear, accepting less than the bare minimum does not make you a superior stan. I also bought all 4 box sets, vinyl, digital single, and a digital album (and this is just Act 1). I’ve earned the right to drag her in this base every day if I choose so. But it’s honestly not that serious, I just like seeing our page count grow. You don't earn the right to drag no one because you decided to buy 4 50 dollar boxes like a dummy
Starshine Posted July 10, 2022 Posted July 10, 2022 The little complainer-complainers complaining about the little complainers.
bijonse Posted July 10, 2022 Posted July 10, 2022 9 minutes ago, ToraeGilt said: And don’t get me wrong either cuz if Beyoncé manage to be commercial this era I will be singing praises BUT it’s just not my primary focus. I’m more concerned about the content. I want a film or music video for each song. I would appreciate a documentary taking us through the entire process. For now though I’m just sitting back and enjoying the era as it unfolds i want her to do another thing the making of the gift and self titled omg
Janelle Posted July 10, 2022 Posted July 10, 2022 3 or 2 weeks is enough time for her to do what she do so stop ******* complaining or create another thread I wonder if it's the white fans because black people don't act like this.
Devin Posted July 10, 2022 Posted July 10, 2022 Just now, Janelle said: 3 or 2 weeks is enough time for her to do what she do so stop ******* complaining or create another thread I wonder if it's the white fans because black people don't act like this. Oop
Airhead Posted July 10, 2022 Posted July 10, 2022 Fooled me… Thought it was something important with it being so many pages since my last post. Nope, more complaining and whining.
ToraeGilt Posted July 10, 2022 Posted July 10, 2022 37 minutes ago, Tripthelight said: I hear you, and can acknowledge some truth in what you’re saying, but respectfully, you’re missing the point of what so many people have repeatedly said over the last 100 pages. I can only speak for myself, and my frustration with this process has nothing to do with success and gloating. Think about it this way: Like so many in the hive, I fell in love with Bey through her live performances, and the rare, unscripted moments when she lowered the veil and shared her passion, drive, and inspiration for the work. And while there’s YouTube and Twitter for quick throwback moments, there is an entire generation that simply don’t know Bey’s artistry in the same way that many of us to do, particularly the ways that cemented her legacy as one the greats. We’re not asking Bey to break her back and be inauthentic, but I do think there are innovative ways for her team to connect and engage with the fans without sacrificing her artistic integrity or peace. And like BGKC said, we’re just talking to talk. Let me address this quickly.. The homecoming documentary along with the behind the scenes making of BIK imo did all of what you said. She was vulnerable, she showed us how difficult it was for her to put this together and how it took a toll on her body. I personally saw how passionate she was about both projects just based on how the collaborators and her self went through great lengths to put everything together. So I’m just a bit confused where all of this is coming from. side note: I see ppl keeping mentioning how some of us might feel like we’re superior stans because we accept the “bare minimum”. Girl bey don’t know any of us personally. Like Idc about that. Why would I feel superior because we share a difference of opinion? We’re just talking
Devin Posted July 10, 2022 Posted July 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Airhead said: Anyway, 18 days until Moon Walking. Don’t forget COZY
ToraeGilt Posted July 10, 2022 Posted July 10, 2022 13 minutes ago, Janelle said: Y'all is sucking the life out the thread I don't want to come to this thread and see y'all complaining like stfu and get a life and y'all want be focus on the rollout stop worshiping Beyonce and just buy or stream the music that's it that's all y'all so damn dramatic get the **** out this thread so those of us who are not crazy and over dramatic can actually discuss the music. Damn y'all so ******* lame.
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