Chris Posted September 23 Posted September 23 She posted another whiskey photoshoot. And then she put that white horse up there. She is a demon. 2
Devin Posted September 23 Posted September 23 all this capitalism lets me know she will be endorsing tr*mp this election. 3 1
Chris Posted September 23 Posted September 23 That cement booty, bug eyed, coke sniffing, dumpy, frumpy, sloppy, skanky, ass backwards piece of garbage is still throwing jabs at Beyonce. WHO are you even chirping at? 1 1
alien superstore Posted September 23 Posted September 23 Why is everyone having meltdowns about a Levis collab as if you werent all demanding it on album release night and as if we didnt already know she was shooting for this campaign via set leaks and car waves 4
QueenB Posted September 23 Posted September 23 5 minutes ago, alien superstore said: Why is everyone having meltdowns about a Levis collab as if you werent all demanding it on album release night and as if we didnt already know she was shooting for this campaign via set leaks and car waves we didn't want JUST advertisements this era, some commercials sprinkled in with MINIMAL fan service (a music video... a live performance) and we wouldve ate it up. Commercial Carter (still without dolby atmos btw) was dropped and then we had absolute silence with her only appearing to buy a $100 whiskey or some $70 shampoo/conditioner... see the problem 4 1
dnboy1 Posted September 23 Posted September 23 4 hours ago, Kalmanta said: Next Tuesday will be the Louis Vuitton Show for the Paris Fashion Week. Pharrell was teasing to „get ready" not too long ago, I can definitely see them collaborating on a collection like she did with Olivier for Balmain. Might be some sort of truth to that. However, the journalist says the activation is for Wednesday. At the very least, we'll get some more new....pictures.
Triton Posted September 23 Posted September 23 4 hours ago, Kalmanta said: Next Tuesday will be the Louis Vuitton Show for the Paris Fashion Week. Pharrell was teasing to „get ready" not too long ago, I can definitely see them collaborating on a collection like she did with Olivier for Balmain. It's the women's show, Nicholas Ghesquiere is in charge of them. Pharrell does the menswear. It would be great if she got Nicholas to do something for her, especially custom tour outfits. He praised the DC outfits and made the gold leggings she wore to the 2007 BET awards. 1
Nippy'sReceipts Posted September 23 Posted September 23 (edited) On 9/22/2024 at 1:58 PM, Cbreezy said: I love Aaliyah but the hot takes people pump out really supports why I often feel like they need to CHARGE for social media lol. Some people just like to be loud and wrong. And the fact they do it for free and gain traction with it IRKS me to no end lol. We all have different opinions and I respect that, but anyone who genuinely follows the music business, LIVED the time of the 90s/00s, and understands the R&B landscape qualitatively and commercially, knows that the whole "if Aaliyah was alive then Bey wouldn't be as big" is total BS. The album era she passed away during actually wasn't selling that well at that point. The singles, while incredible, also weren't smash hits either. Aaliyah awkwardly had the unique circumstance of being active as an artist since she was a teen, yet always marketed as an older artist throughout. So despite only being 22 when she died, in the consumer's mind she had been out for a long while and hadn't had the benefit of the whole "young act to grown woman" gimmick change that the Britney's, Xtina's and so many others benefitted from. Artists, no matter what folk argue, ARE products and I guess what I'm saying is that Aaliyah had already had a "long" product cycle (in being presented as a cool, slick, edgy act for the entirety of her career). Consumers are conditioned to gag over the "new", "shiny" act on the block, so her withering sales actually tracked with that trajectory (that most artists experience). That's not to say she couldn't have bounced back. Because as much as the "mid-tier R&B girl" path could have been her lane, what she was doing with Timbaland and co at the time of her passing could have seen her thrive in a lane that was entirely hers. A lane that was one foot edgy/critical darling and one foot in the commercial (but not as big as the big-big commercial acts like Bey). Plus her juggling a movie career so heavy at that time was very different to any of her peers. So, IMO, she easily could have had a career trajectory totally different to any act she's compared to. Aaliyah being used for Bey hate is so irksome and is 9/10 being done by people who didn't even live her peak or just be talking to talk. A big part of Bey's appeal/breakthrough / present relevance is her performance ability, the people drawing on Aaliyah to down Bey probably couldn't name 5 performances of hers that they've seen and definitely couldn't name 1 performance that would blow a Bey showing out of the water. If anything, like others have said, the real question is whether the girls like Rihanna would exist had Aaliyah been around. Because, in the absence of "an Aaliyah", the quality gap between what Bey was/is serving up and the "next" big R&B girl was/is huge. Realistically, Aaliyah would have given the industry a great alternative while not being a patch on Bey. We live in a world where Rihanna is seen as on-par with Bey or right under when her talent and abilities pale in more ways than I can type. She's considered as such because of the power of her brand and catchiness of her songs (which I'll give her). Aaliyah being around, with the level of talent, beauty, and extracurricular activity she had going on outside of music makes me wonder more about what would be of the Rihanna's, Ciara's (who I like), and similar. But not Bey lol. Aaliyahs legacy was already getting washed by the white version: Britney. Aaliyah's Stans spend lot of time on Beyonce (so much time) when Britney was the one for two consecutive VMA's copying Aaliyah (2001 vmas, 2002 VMAs leather newsboy cat/outfit) . Days after Aaliyah died in 2001, Britney had a snake wrapped around her at the VMAs and white people went crazy. Aaliyah did the snake around the neck first. I don't know why they spend so much time dragging Beyonce. Britney was the one being used to replace Aaliyah and Janet Edited September 23 by Nippy'sReceipts 2
swissman Posted September 23 Posted September 23 (edited) 1 hour ago, QueenB said: That's what's so funny, she JUST referred to visuals as "distractions" so what are these ads then? She referred to how (musical) visuals are distractions from how people consume and therefore experience music. Ads for products logically aren't part of that statement, at all. If that were the case, we could say that about anything she did that wasn't visuals. Edited September 23 by swissman 3
king_queen Posted September 23 Posted September 23 "Music videos are a distraction to the music, but using your song to sell products isn't." Next thing bootlicking Hive is gonna say is how ad placements are some new revolutionary way to promote an era like gurl pls. She has become the equivalent of a Beats Pill in a 2012 music video. CC isn't even 6 months old yet it's about to fall off the charts so we clearly have found other ways to distract us 11
Pheromosa Posted September 23 Posted September 23 1 hour ago, Chris said: That cement booty, bug eyed, coke sniffing, dumpy, frumpy, sloppy, skanky, ass backwards piece of garbage is still throwing jabs at Beyonce. WHO are you even chirping at? The intro to YAYA got to her
QueenB Posted September 23 Posted September 23 31 minutes ago, swissman said: She referred to how (musical) visuals are distractions from how people consume and therefore experience music. Ads for products logically aren't part of that statement, at all. If that were the case, we could say that about anything she did that wasn't visuals. her other projects have musical visuals to pair them with so they don't have this problem, when all you have are commercials using the aesthetics/songs from your album era (cowboys, horses, etc!) and nothing else, then that becomes your "visual" for the album.
Fleahive Posted September 23 Posted September 23 Idk about yall but I've been craving a new pair of jeans. I'll buy some if they print Beyoncé face on the butt
Fleahive Posted September 23 Posted September 23 Beyoncés instagram comments are CRAZY. The unicorns are truly in full force. The more she posts the more they say she's trying to distract the public. Imagine what the other celebs that follow her (and don't pay attention to Stan twitter) think when they see this. I'm so sad for her. Then again she survived the pizza emoji mess so there's that.
Fleahive Posted September 23 Posted September 23 I hate that she's so nice to all of Hollywood and they all turn on her for no reason. Her life hasn't changed since she was a little kid being bullied for just existing. This particular lady probably hurt her feelings more than other situations. 2
Draper. Posted September 23 Posted September 23 She's redoing an iconic 1985 Levi's ad with Levii's Jeans. Might be cute. 2
Shelter Posted September 23 Posted September 23 What Xtina just released would've been nice promo for the last 2 eras. Something like this on YouTube and tiktok 1
king_queen Posted September 23 Posted September 23 8 minutes ago, Draper. said: She's redoing an iconic 1985 Levi's ad with Levii's Jeans. Might be cute. If she does this right, it'll be hotter than that one Heat commercial
swissman Posted September 23 Posted September 23 2 minutes ago, king_queen said: "Music videos are a distraction to the music, but using your song to sell products isn't." Next thing bootlicking Hive is gonna say is how ad placements are some new revolutionary way to promote an era like gurl pls. She has become the equivalent of a Beats Pill in a 2012 music video. CC isn't even 6 months old yet it's about to fall off the charts so we clearly have found other ways to distract us Let's be absolutely clear about what she said to GQ. "Sometimes a visual can be a distraction from the quality of the voice and the music." What Beyoncé is saying is sometimes putting out a visual can distract from the material qualities of the music itself because it puts an emphatic stamp on the aesthetic and brings in a lot of other creative factors for people to focus their attention on and consume. An ad may do the same for some viewers, but really, no one is looking to an ad to receive deeper context of the song chosen for it. Ads are usually not even half the length of a song, so already it's nothing like the impact of a music video, nor will they ever (unless highly iconic and with a wide-release) be as emblematic of the song than an actual official music video will be. But correct me if I'm wrong, the extent of these "ads" in question are essentially IG reels, right? I don't necessarily think it's a big deal if people are "distracted" with visuals but I do think once you have a visual it's very hard to imagine it any other way and that sometimes people focus more on the visual aspects than the music itself (See: Single Ladies, Formation) so I see her point. I don't have to agree with it fully to not let it upset me. You may call me a bootlicker for not being angry and complaining about it, but I simply don't see the big deal. 2
king_queen Posted September 23 Posted September 23 1 minute ago, swissman said: Let's be absolutely clear about what she said to GQ. "Sometimes a visual can be a distraction from the quality of the voice and the music." What Beyoncé is saying is sometimes putting out a visual can distract from the material qualities of the music itself because it puts an emphatic stamp on the aesthetic and brings in a lot of other creative factors for people to focus their attention on and consume. An ad may do the same for some viewers, but really, no one is looking to an ad to receive deeper context of the song chosen for it. Ads are usually not even half the length of a song, so already it's nothing like the impact of a music video, nor will they ever (unless highly iconic and with a wide-release) be as emblematic of the song than an actual official music video will be. But correct me if I'm wrong, the extent of these "ads" in question are essentially IG reels, right? I don't necessarily think it's a big deal if people are "distracted" with visuals but I do think once you have a visual it's very hard to imagine it any other way and that sometimes people focus more on the visual aspects than the music itself (See: Single Ladies, Formation) so I see her point. I don't have to agree with it fully to not let it upset me. You may call me a bootlicker for not being angry and complaining about it, but I simply don't see the big deal. I haven't read the other long ass essays in this thread and I ain't reading this one. I can tell you put some effort into this response though and for that, I commend you 5 4
swissman Posted September 23 Posted September 23 26 minutes ago, QueenB said: her other projects have musical visuals to pair them with so they don't have this problem, when all you have are commercials using the aesthetics/songs from your album era (cowboys, horses, etc!) and nothing else, then that becomes your "visual" for the album. I don't really think that's the case. I'm a big fan and I cannot really off the top of my head think of what ad she used TYRANT or SWEET HONEY BUCKIIN' or any other COWBOY CARTER song for that matter for, though I know she put it on some IG story or reel or even an actual video at some point. So I can only assume that the average person has even less knowledge and a less ready association between the music and these "ads". No matter how you spin it, the absence of visuals does not make the closet thing that we have to a visual become the visual, not even a little bit. 3
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