yonsé Posted July 17 Posted July 17 23 hours ago, Negiiiii said: Yet her announcing Act III @ the acceptance speech would be the ICONIC thing to do no it wouldn't lol 1 3
Kingdom Posted July 17 Posted July 17 2 hours ago, Devin said: i blame @Kingdom for the lack of promo. Wait a min glasses.... 1
period sis Posted July 17 Posted July 17 Her streams are close to being under 10m which hasn't been that bad since Pre-Renaissance. Even during the dead period in the beginning of the year pre-CC her streams always lingered around the 11m range. Her streams are about to look like The Gift era. Guess this is really what she wanted 1 5
Negiiiii Posted July 17 Posted July 17 Partition is truly the MASTERPIECE she thought she made. One of her best songs yall hear that? 4
Kristie Kuwa Posted July 17 Posted July 17 1 hour ago, period sis said: Her streams are close to being under 10m which hasn't been that bad since Pre-Renaissance. Even during the dead period in the beginning of the year pre-CC her streams always lingered around the 11m range. Her streams are about to look like The Gift era. Guess this is really what she wanted I honestly believe, and I know people hate to bring this is up, that it all has to do with Spoiler Sir having some sort of illness. My Rose hints at that, her never showing him, etc.. she truly changed after giving birth to the twins and I believe itsnbecause Sir demands more attention than a "normal" child
Shelter Posted July 17 Posted July 17 1 hour ago, period sis said: Her streams are close to being under 10m which hasn't been that bad since Pre-Renaissance. Even during the dead period in the beginning of the year pre-CC her streams always lingered around the 11m range. Her streams are about to look like The Gift era. Guess this is really what she wanted She kinda deserves it because she is coasting on her name for the longest time. 1
Joaco95 Posted July 17 Posted July 17 17 hours ago, Anvarie said: Taylor let Bey know that she was going to release a tsunami of garbage on the Billboard 200 so it was March or never —— Hive weigh in: Which era was more mismanaged 4 or Cowboy Carter? Which era had the most potential for success 4 or Cowboy Carter? discuss CC At least with 4 she got pregnant, what about CC? Shes fine asf 1
swissman Posted July 17 Posted July 17 9 hours ago, Pepo said: This always will be Bey's greatest form of impact, no matter borders, culture, or time @swissman lol agree but why am I tagged here?! 2
Devin Posted July 17 Posted July 17 3 minutes ago, swissman said: lol agree but why am I tagged here?! we missed u. 1 1
Devin Posted July 17 Posted July 17 29 minutes ago, Joaco95 said: CC At least with 4 she got pregnant, what about CC? Shes fine asf she is pregnant Spoiler the baby called: retirement 4
ScorpiosGroove Posted July 17 Posted July 17 3 hours ago, period sis said: Her streams are close to being under 10m which hasn't been that bad since Pre-Renaissance. Even during the dead period in the beginning of the year pre-CC her streams always lingered around the 11m range. Her streams are about to look like The Gift era. Guess this is really what she wanted when the act III is the jay collab, it bombs and gets panned while she's stuck in vegas till the end of the decade 1
swissman Posted July 17 Posted July 17 18 hours ago, Anvarie said: Taylor let Bey know that she was going to release a tsunami of garbage on the Billboard 200 so it was March or never —— Hive weigh in: Which era was more mismanaged 4 or Cowboy Carter? Which era had the most potential for success 4 or Cowboy Carter? discuss I don't think either era is "mismanaged" per se. 4's management was pretty impeccable. She was everywhere, her video was launched on American Idol, she had tv interviews, magazine covers, she had SO MANY performances, she had iconic performances, she dropped more videos than singles...she was doing everything that Mathew himself would have had her do. The real issue was the single choices, most of which did not at all align to what was hot on radio, at a time when pop music was lacking sonic diversity. COWBOY CARTER isn't really mismanaged either, in the sense that it's very clear Beyoncé is managing it this way on purpose, knowing very well what that means commercially. There's a lot she could have done to make it more successful, but she's chosen basically none. And I don't think "doing nothing" and "making management mistakes" are really the same unless the manager thought doing nothing would be a great commercial strategy, which I doubt she ever believes considering the numbers are in black-and-white and if she at all cared about it she'd do something other than sell standard edition vinyls. She doesn't seem bothered though, does she? COWBOY CARTER definitely has the most potential for success. She couldn't have done more for 4 but choose other singles or record a different album with beat-drop songs. Even just releasing a TEXAS HOLD 'EM video would have extended its chart run, but the era had success already which means that the lack of chart/commercial impact after could have been sustained if she just promoted it correctly. The follow-up single, II MOST WANTED seemed obvious but came with no promo other than an ugly single cover. It could have at least been an easy mini-hit with a video or performances and she probably could have even got another hit if she played her cards right. I think even one of the Shaboozey songs would make great summer single plus he's having such a moment as it is. 1
QueenB Posted July 17 Posted July 17 2 hours ago, Negiiiii said: Partition is truly the MASTERPIECE she thought she made. One of her best songs yall hear that? I wish I could listen to Partition and not have to skip Yoncé manually 3
Pepo Posted July 17 Posted July 17 11 minutes ago, swissman said: lol agree but why am I tagged here?! Just to say hi You're usually the one defending Bey the most from trolls, so I immediately thought of you when I came across that tweet. 1
ScorpiosGroove Posted July 17 Posted July 17 2 hours ago, Kristie Kuwa said: I honestly believe, and I know people hate to bring this is up, that it all has to do with Hide contents Sir having some sort of illness. My Rose hints at that, her never showing him, etc.. she truly changed after giving birth to the twins and I believe itsnbecause Sir demands more attention than a "normal" child Spoiler i mean i'd don't like this topic either but i've been saying things kinda went downhill after the twins were born and she did say one of the babies's heart stopped beating which lead to the emergency c-section… i think it's safe to say that was sir's
TizTiz Posted July 17 Posted July 17 11 hours ago, ScorpiosGroove said: and this is why i wonder if she even truly cares let alone likes her post-lemonade music (i think not)… cause her actions clearly give contractual obligation and not "i'm proud of these albums they're my best work" "RENAISSANCE" is the only album that doesn't seem to be disconnected from her, but that's only because how much she poured into it after it's released. Sure she didn't do much, but the few things she did do were all aligned in the albums theme and aesthetics. From the ITG preview, the tour, the personalized listen parties- everything she did, she let you know that she actually cared about the music, the story behind the music and how the music was received. Only the citrus perfume seemed to be an uneven exchange, but I've assumed it was because either her main focus was on the hair care line or the tour film. "COWBOY CARTER" extension to the public has been botched ever since the album went up for presale. That may be because of the extensive changes and additions made to the album at the last minute. She was still working on the official vinyl after the albums release, which is unlike her. With so much having to be done at the last minute, though the album has been in production since 2018 or 2019, including 2 or 3 photos, more studio recordings and filming new scenes, while also filming for Verizon, she's probably too tired to care any more. Though, it is odd that an album birthed from so many personal life experiences, the major event being her country music awards debut, has barely been acknowledged beside on Instagram or Been Country. "The Gift" was, technically, a contractual obligation, it was still personal. I think she talked about the ancestry connection or something to the music. No one forces her to do it, she had to have cared to commit 2-3 years of her life to expanding a side role into and album and visual film. "EVERYTHING IS LOVE" was simply a good idea, paired with bad timing and motivation. A contract agreement that no one asked, but would've gladly excepted if the album was done correctly.
family.guy123 Posted July 17 Posted July 17 10 hours ago, Pepo said: This always will be Bey's greatest form of impact, no matter borders, culture, or time @swissman Is that Renee Rapp teaching the class?
LegaMyth Posted July 17 Posted July 17 This year had been unbelievably competitive with releases. There is no room for a b***h that has "nothing to prove." The reason she doesn't "care about sales" is due to her hard-core fanbase. No one forced her to release R or CC. She made that choice.
cloudbusting Posted July 17 Posted July 17 4 hours ago, period sis said: Her streams are close to being under 10m which hasn't been that bad since Pre-Renaissance. Even during the dead period in the beginning of the year pre-CC her streams always lingered around the 11m range. Her streams are about to look like The Gift era. Guess this is really what she wanted entering her indie flop era
Flanders Posted July 17 Posted July 17 Listening to Dangerously in Love on this rainy evening and the ballads are sounding heavenly. Moved on to Destiny Fulfilled now. Oh 2000oncé the legend that you were 1 1
king_queen Posted July 17 Posted July 17 5 hours ago, Comedor said: Iconic and legendary. The other girls simply don't have a Destiny Fulfilled in their catalog ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ This is also one of the greatest R&B songs of all time We really need to start waking up some more "of all time" conversations as a base, stans of older legends be damned 3
king_queen Posted July 17 Posted July 17 (edited) 1 hour ago, swissman said: COWBOY CARTER isn't really mismanaged either, in the sense that it's very clear Beyoncé is managing it this way on purpose, knowing very well what that means commercially. Selling your fans who just spent thousands on concert tickets months before, an unfinished vinyl without any sort of disclaimer before, during and/or after release is the a textbook example of mismanagement (and greed). Ya Ya cutting off that abruptly and no one on her team noticing/doing anything about it is another. Edited July 17 by king_queen 3 1
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