Machete Posted February 27 Posted February 27 First of all Renaissance leak was NOT a big deal. In fact I am convinced Parkwood paid for all those articles and literal CNN coverage talking about it (or there was some weird media ploy to sabotage album). Albums leaking 2 days before is literally the NORM when physicals are available. Hell that same year Harry's House leaked a full MONTH before release and there was ziltch of it in the media. Renaissance's leak even with the big media coverage impacted 0% of its sales. GP members aren't scouring through Twitter or ATRL asking for links and stans will delete the file when album is officially released. So if preventing a leak is the reason why they are sacrificing a big first week, then yes Parkwood would be stupid. 1 3
Dreajae Posted February 27 Posted February 27 As long as Bey hits 300lk, I'm fine with it. That's her consistent sweet spot. Her streaming power has grown so much with 1 album and an actual hit lead single with proper radio. But don't expect 500k-800k numbers. Perhaps she'll reveal the preorders and title soon. Bey knows what she's doing at this point. 2
Shelter Posted February 27 Posted February 27 No physical would be a mess. It makes no sense why pre order isn’t up yet unless there is some master plan, which I doubt there is. 2
ShouldersSideways Posted February 27 Posted February 27 7 minutes ago, Machete said: First of all Renaissance leak was NOT a big deal. In fact I am convinced Parkwood paid for all those articles and literal CNN coverage talking about it This makes no sense 4 2
chaeyonce Posted February 27 Posted February 27 There is no way Bey would let Parkwood leak her album intentionally. None. 13 minutes ago, Cbreezy said: I won't belabor the point too much more lol. I'll just leave it at... Bey won't be a 300k+ first-week girlie forever. That much we know. But I'm not sure she is ready to tap out of playing the game just yet. She needs the GP and a certain amount of mainstream popularity to keep breaking those tour gross numbers. Which requires mass-appreciated/consumed material to put people in seats. $$$$$ There's also a press angle some of y'all are bypassing with this "she doesn't care" rhetoric. Imagine Act II debuting #1, but the sole focus of headlines being: "Beyonce debuts with lowest sales of her career"...."Queen Bey' Reign is Over". Maybe it's cus I skew a lil more seasoned, but trust and believe that this is what they did with the likes of Michael Jackson when Invincible dropped. it was one of the biggest selling debuts and overall sellers of that year, but the media tide was against him and it (til this day) the tone of reporting dictates the overall sentiment to the record. Same happened tp Janet with Damita Jo (huge first week sales, but missed #1, so deemed a flop). Y'all think they (the media) are gonna go easy on Bey doing a Country record (which is a magnet for hate as it is) if she "underperforms"? They sure as hell won't and trust that not a single report will say: "it's ok, though, because she didn't want it to leak" or "there were no physicals" LOL. I guess I'm saying that I've seen these scenarios play out one too many times to be "unbothered" or ever co-sign her being "unbothered". She/her team need to do all the things required to keep the tide in her favor and her train driving forward in the regal way she deliberately presents it as doing. The thing is Bey's "Queendom" doesn't solely come from the sales and records. Its just one aspect. She done did the charts thing, she has been over it. Why she is still releasing physicals and playing the game a minimum? Well she wants her collaborators to get paid and it's also the reason why she still submits to the Grammys. The media has never went easy on Bey, I don't see why they would start now. You are a stan, you care about the numbers I get it. I care also but I try not to get too worked up over Parkwood questionable strategies because it's been this way since Lemonade. 1
satellites.™ Posted February 27 Posted February 27 I think the last physical I purchased was 4, I'm pretty sure the digital drop pushed me into only streaming. I do like Vinyl's though, they're good collectables! 1
Shelter Posted February 27 Posted February 27 Parkwood didn’t release it. The album was on shelves in France 3 days before the release
Kristie Kuwa Posted February 27 Posted February 27 Guys you make no sense. Why would she have a physical release of act1 and not act2 if both are intertwined? I think u freak out for no reason 2
xrosup Posted February 27 Posted February 27 35 minutes ago, V$. said: Girl... It's Beyoncé Press not Legion! Oop 2
kimberly Posted February 27 Posted February 27 23 minutes ago, Machete said: First of all Renaissance leak was NOT a big deal. In fact I am convinced Parkwood paid for all those articles and literal CNN coverage talking about it (or there was some weird media ploy to sabotage album). Albums leaking 2 days before is literally the NORM when physicals are available. Hell that same year Harry's House leaked a full MONTH before release and there was ziltch of it in the media. Renaissance's leak even with the big media coverage impacted 0% of its sales. GP members aren't scouring through Twitter or ATRL asking for links and stans will delete the file when album is officially released. So if preventing a leak is the reason why they are sacrificing a big first week, then yes Parkwood would be stupid. 15 minutes ago, ShouldersSideways said: This makes no sense right. the reason why no one talked about Harry's Shack is because people who run media don't care about him. his album wasn't anticipated like Beyoncé's and he's nowhere near the cultural relevance of Beyoncé in the US. a T-Swift leak now might make headlines, but pre-Eras and pre-media frenzy, I don't think it would have either. Beyoncé can make headlines by posting a photo in a platinum wig no one's reporting on Harry's ugly buzzcut. 1
giRLbye. Posted February 27 Posted February 27 31 minutes ago, Cbreezy said: I won't belabor the point too much more lol. I'll just leave it at... Bey won't be a 300k+ first-week girlie forever. That much we know. But I'm not sure she is ready to tap out of playing the game just yet. She needs the GP and a certain amount of mainstream popularity to keep breaking those tour gross numbers. Which requires mass-appreciated/consumed material to put people in seats. $$$$$ There's also a press angle some of y'all are bypassing with this "she doesn't care" rhetoric. Imagine Act II debuting #1, but the sole focus of headlines being: "Beyonce debuts with lowest sales of her career"...."Queen Bey' Reign is Over". Maybe it's cus I skew a lil more seasoned, but trust and believe that this is what they did with the likes of Michael Jackson when Invincible dropped. it was one of the biggest selling debuts and overall sellers of that year, but the media tide was against him and it (til this day) the tone of reporting dictates the overall sentiment to the record. Same happened tp Janet with Damita Jo (huge first week sales, but missed #1, so deemed a flop). Y'all think they (the media) are gonna go easy on Bey doing a Country record (which is a magnet for hate as it is) if she "underperforms"? They sure as hell won't and trust that not a single report will say: "it's ok, though, because she didn't want it to leak" or "there were no physicals" LOL. I guess I'm saying that I've seen these scenarios play out one too many times to be "unbothered" or ever co-sign her being "unbothered". She/her team need to do all the things required to keep the tide in her favor and her train driving forward in the regal way she deliberately presents it as doing. Beyonce is not obsessively unhinged about numbers like this post reads...whatever she does...she'll be fine 1
Blue Rose Posted February 27 Posted February 27 she doesn’t care about sales but she cares about AOTY and she will not win that without amazing first week headlines. The preorders will come but the wait is agonizing and dumb from her part 1 1
cloudbusting Posted February 27 Posted February 27 stumbled upon youtube footage from my show & section… oh to have a time machine
Lovett Posted February 27 Posted February 27 51 minutes ago, Kristie Kuwa said: Why am i crying? Im.living right through britanny in that moment I love this! I really enjoy Brittany's content and she's stanned Bey DOWN for years. I loved seeing her reaction here because you can truly see how much that moment meant to her. A true Hive. 2
chaeyonce Posted February 27 Posted February 27 Hopeful the pre-orders will drop tonight and if not tonight definitely this week I only care about the numbers in the sense that, her music is so good it should be heard by the whole world.
BnPac Posted February 27 Posted February 27 45 minutes ago, Dreajae said: As long as Bey hits 300lk, I'm fine with it. That's her consistent sweet spot. Yes, sure. That's all everyone wants. But it will be a bit difficult if she's releasing without physicals. Her streaming power might have grown but not like that. 300k units coming from streaming is Drake/Taylor type of streaming pull. SZA who is also a streaming giant did less than 300k because she doesn't sell albums. As an example Renaissance opened with 332 000, 190 000 of that were album sales (with a good pre-order window) and only 43 000 of those were digital. It's better if she releases physicals, she probably will but if she doesn't, that's also OK, maybe her team has a plan.
Triton Posted February 27 Posted February 27 9 minutes ago, Blue Rose said: she doesn’t care about sales but she cares about AOTY and she will not win that without amazing first week headlines. The preorders will come but the wait is agonizing and dumb from her part She should submit Act II to only AOTY so it’s her sole nomination then surprise release the sister album Act III during the voting period.
Lose My Breath Posted February 27 Posted February 27 Kanye could be a serious challenge to her weeks at #1 on the Hot 100 now. Who would've expected his streams to gain so much
R.E.M. Posted February 27 Posted February 27 Bey's love for money supersedes her fear of leaks. Y'all really think she's going to miss out on millions of dollars because she doesn't want people listening to her music early (many of whom are Hive members who are going to buy one or multiple copies of the album anyway)? 1
Kristie Kuwa Posted February 27 Posted February 27 And if she has a classic on act ii in the vein of this one: What THEN?
Machete Posted February 27 Posted February 27 50 minutes ago, ShouldersSideways said: This makes no sense What makes no sense is CNN reporting on a Renaissance leak As I said every album with physicals is leaked. Parkwood using the leak as a marketing tool to inform GP Bey has an album coming out makes far more sense than CNN doing a segment on an album leaked 2 days before release 1 1
chaeyonce Posted February 27 Posted February 27 5 minutes ago, Lose My Breath said: Kanye could be a serious challenge to her weeks at #1 on the Hot 100 now. Who would've expected his streams to gain so much I mean it's a Kanye and TDS song with features
Machete Posted February 27 Posted February 27 31 minutes ago, kimberly said: a T-Swift leak now might make headlines, but pre-Eras and pre-media frenzy, I don't think it would have either. 1989 TV, an album that debuted with 1.6M units and was objectively far more hyped than Renaissance also leaked 2 days before release and did not make headlines There is literally no precedent for the media coverage Renaissance’s leak made. I stand by it either being Parkwood capitalizing on it as a promotional tool or the media out to get her. 1
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