Blue Rose Posted February 27 Posted February 27 This is the second artist talking about recording with Bey since the release of TXHE. The album is definitely not ready yet. They were able to get ST physicals out in a week so I guess with the right arrangements she can still pull off physicals
Cbreezy Posted February 27 Posted February 27 1 minute ago, giRLbye. said: Beyonce definitely cares about leaks...4 leaking is why ST was a surprise drop The fact BMS leaked b/c she announced the title & ppl knew what to search for and they leaked the song making them rush to put it on streaming unprepared without the single cover is likely why Texas/16C were surprise drops. Rennie leaking & being widely reported on major news publications also lowered her first day streams and will likely be the reason there probably won't be a physical available during release week. I mean she definitely cares, but I'd be hella surprised if she cared at the expense of her first-week sales (which very much play a role in her position of Queendom). I'd sooner imagine she'd (annoyingly) forgo a long preorder window to minimize the potential of a leak way before release than totally go digital-only. Like someone else said, I really struggle to buy the idea that the standard edition of the album isn't mixed, mastered, and vinyl-pressed already. I can, however, see her doing something unique with Amazon (who have an infrastructure for fast turnaround with Prime delivery) if wanting to minimize the preorder window but still get physical editions to fans fast. All conjecture guess. Giselle just needs to drop that damn link lol. 1
ShouldersSideways Posted February 27 Posted February 27 4 minutes ago, xrosup said: Something's coming I don't think this account knows anything. I think they're just speculating like the rest of us. I'd love to see her show up tonight though 1
giRLbye. Posted February 27 Posted February 27 3 minutes ago, Cbreezy said: I mean she definitely cares, but I'd be hella surprised if she cared at the expense of her first-week sales (which very much play a role in her position of Queendom). I'd sooner imagine she'd (annoyingly) forgo a long preorder window to minimize the potential of a leak way before release than totally go digital-only. Like someone else said, I really struggle to buy the idea that the standard edition of the album isn't mixed, mastered, and vinyl-pressed already. I can, however, see her doing something unique with Amazon (who have an infrastructure for fast turnaround with Prime delivery) if wanting to minimize the preorder window but still get physical editions to fans fast. All conjecture guess. Giselle just needs to drop that damn link lol. i dont think Beyonce cares like you do...nothing guaranteed the success of Texas when she recorded it...just like nothing guaranteed the success of ST 10 years ago whatever happens...happens
Cbreezy Posted February 27 Posted February 27 6 minutes ago, Blue Rose said: This is the second artist talking about recording with Bey since the release of TXHE. The album is definitely not ready yet. They were able to get ST physicals out in a week so I guess with the right arrangements she can still pull off physicals It'd still be kind of a disaster (ish), as that would totally eradicate the possibility of vinyl (which has at minimum a 6-8 week lead time for pressing). Back in 2013 with ST and 2016 with Lemonade, vinyl was less of a "thing". Now, it's totally a huge magnet for sales. Hence, why all the Pop girlies have all the variations of it to boost their numbers. If done right, it literally can add anywhere from 50k-100k of sales for an act like Bey...on top of streaming, CDs, and other unique physical units. It's kind of a must. As a big fan of music industry developments at large, I clocked this before Rennie so was delighted to see her embrace the necessary tactics then. IMO, she'd be taking significant steps backward in approach not doing this. She's not Drake, for example, who doesn't sell physicals, but can easily push 500k-1 mill first week because of insane streams of bloated albums. That isn't Bey's edit, so she needs to play to her strengths. 3 1
Kristie Kuwa Posted February 27 Posted February 27 https://www.instagram.com/reel/C3MCHuwpWVQ/?igsh=MWU2dGoyeXB2ZDE1NQ== Not her choking herself to death when talking about Check On It
ShouldersSideways Posted February 27 Posted February 27 Even with a #1 song some of y'all are doomsdaying It's going to be fine. 1
BnPac Posted February 27 Posted February 27 3 minutes ago, Kristie Kuwa said: https://www.instagram.com/reel/C3MCHuwpWVQ/?igsh=MWU2dGoyeXB2ZDE1NQ== Not her choking herself to death when talking about Check On It She has no taste. 1
Lovett Posted February 27 Posted February 27 Wonder how it'll start doing now it's been removed from TikTok. 1
Cbreezy Posted February 27 Posted February 27 (edited) This I agree with... 24 minutes ago, giRLbye. said: whatever happens...happens This I do NOT agree with (at all)... 24 minutes ago, giRLbye. said: i dont think Beyonce cares like you do...nothing guaranteed the success of Texas when she recorded it...just like nothing guaranteed the success of ST 10 years ago Y'all, can we please do away with this idea that Beyonce "doesn't care" about sales or her commercial positioning? She absolutely does! Our girl is a capitalist. So, a well-selling album facilitates a big tour... which enhances her overall brand... and gives her all the leveraging power in her extracurricular deals. It's literally an interconnected chain. Each thing feeds the next thing along the line. If you think she's A-OK with becoming a 30k-50k first-week seller like her 00s peers, you are grossly mistaken. Even if she isn't that bothered, you can bet that Columbia cares. You can bet that Live Nation cares (when it comes to packing those stadiums with Becky and Barbra GP alongside the Hive). And you can bet that anyone she wants to go into business with leveraging her brand...cares. She PURPOSEFULLY positions herself as Queen reigning over all, so she can't come out and do peasant sales in the name of...art. This is a BUSINESS. With much love and respect, it will forever confuse me to see that we're not all on the same page in clocking that Bey and her team very much do the "things" **needed** to keep her Queen title intact. Including playlisting ($$$) tf out of her GP-magnet lead to ensure it does what it needs to is a prime example. Granted her music output is consistently on point, Bey nor any artist is "that" lucky when it comes to sustaining as long as she has There's a lot of savvy strategy and commercially vital tactics drawn on to ensure her crown remains in place. This "art not charts" thing is part-true but is also clever af marketing that a lot of the Hive have bought into as being absolute...when it's the furthest thing from. Edited February 27 by Cbreezy 5 1
swissman Posted February 27 Posted February 27 (edited) how sure are we that this song that that man claims to be enlisted for is meant explicitly for the album? couldn't it just as easily be a remix to TEXAS HOLD 'EM? Or another track she plans to release a remix to? We know Beyoncé does love her remixes to reinvent the former (QUEENS remix, WETTER remix). he also literally calls what he's been asked to do is record one of her country songs with a zydeco "twist". couldn't a twist more imply it's a remix rather than just a song she had that needs a twist? Edited February 27 by swissman
ShouldersSideways Posted February 27 Posted February 27 3 minutes ago, Cbreezy said: This I agree with... This I do agree with not (at all)... Y'all, can we please do away with this idea that Beyonce "doesn't care" about sales or her commercial positioning? She absolutely does! Our girl is a capitalist. So, a well-selling album facilitates a big tour... which enhances her overall brand... and gives her all the leveraging power in her extracurricular deals. It's literally an interconnected chain. Each thing feeds the next thing along the line. If you think she's A-OK with becoming a 30k-50k first-week seller like her 00s peers, you are grossly mistaken. Even if she isn't that bothered, you can bet that Columbia cares. You can bet that Live Nation cares. And you can bet that anyone she wants to go into business with leveraging her brand...cares. She PURPOSEFULLY positions herself as Queen reigning over all, she can't come out and do peasant sales in the name of...art. This is a BUSINESS. With much love and respect, it will forever confuse me to see that we're not all on the same page in clocking that Bey and her team very much do the "things" **needed** to keep her Queen title intact. Including playlisting ($$$) tf out of her GP-magnet lead to ensure it does what it needs to is a prime example. Granted her music output is consistently on point, Bey nor any artist is "that" lucky when it comes to sustaining as long as she has There's a lot of savvy strategy and commercially vital tactics drawn on to ensure her crown remains in place. This "art not charts" thing is part-true, but is also clever af marketing that a lot of the Hive have bought into. I don't think anyone is questioning that it's a business. But all your points explaining why they care also highlight why we really shouldn't sweat it so much. They clearly know what they're doing. 1
chaeyonce Posted February 27 Posted February 27 Bey does not care about first week sales figures, she cares way more about her music not leaking. 1
Jon Snow Posted February 27 Posted February 27 21 minutes ago, Kristie Kuwa said: https://www.instagram.com/reel/C3MCHuwpWVQ/?igsh=MWU2dGoyeXB2ZDE1NQ== Not her choking herself to death when talking about Check On It she hates it to death
cloudbusting Posted February 27 Posted February 27 10 minutes ago, Shelter said: He is gaining Texas is growing on radio and holding well on streaming - im not worried yet
Cbreezy Posted February 27 Posted February 27 2 minutes ago, ShouldersSideways said: I don't think anyone is questioning that it's a business. But all your points explaining why they care also highlight why we really shouldn't sweat it so much. They clearly know what they're doing. Fair. I think I'm just part intrigued, part-confused at how we all follow her moves way more closely than the GP, but some stans buy into this "she can do what she wants" "art not charts" or "she always wins regardless" rhetoric without really factoring in the very tangible examples of her team doing the things needed to preserve the "Queen" status we enjoy of her today. But hey, all of this won't matter if she just drops the damn preorder link lol. 1
PrudenceHCharmed Posted February 27 Posted February 27 Kanye is coming Our third week isn't safe unless a huge radio updates; please I hate Kanye so much don't let him have the #1. 1
V$. Posted February 27 Posted February 27 52 minutes ago, xrosup said: Something's coming Girl... It's Beyoncé Press not Legion! 1
Kristie Kuwa Posted February 27 Posted February 27 Why am i crying? Im.living right through britanny in that moment 3
Cbreezy Posted February 27 Posted February 27 6 minutes ago, chaeyonce said: Bey does not care about first week sales figures, she cares way more about her music not leaking. I won't belabor the point too much more lol. I'll just leave it at... Bey won't be a 300k+ first-week girlie forever. That much we know. But I'm not sure she is ready to tap out of playing the game just yet. She needs the GP and a certain amount of mainstream popularity to keep breaking those tour gross numbers. Which requires mass-appreciated/consumed material to put people in seats. $$$$$ There's also a press angle some of y'all are bypassing with this "she doesn't care" rhetoric. Imagine Act II debuting #1, but the sole focus of headlines being: "Beyonce debuts with lowest sales of her career"...."Queen Bey' Reign is Over". Maybe it's cus I skew a lil more seasoned, but trust and believe that this is what they did with the likes of Michael Jackson when Invincible dropped. it was one of the biggest selling debuts and overall sellers of that year, but the media tide was against him and it (til this day) the tone of reporting dictates the overall sentiment to the record. Same happened tp Janet with Damita Jo (huge first week sales, but missed #1, so deemed a flop). Y'all think they (the media) are gonna go easy on Bey doing a Country record (which is a magnet for hate as it is) if she "underperforms"? They sure as hell won't and trust that not a single report will say: "it's ok, though, because she didn't want it to leak" or "there were no physicals" LOL. I guess I'm saying that I've seen these scenarios play out one too many times to be "unbothered" or ever co-sign her being "unbothered". She/her team need to do all the things required to keep the tide in her favor and her train driving forward in the regal way she deliberately presents it as doing. 1
Space&Time Posted February 27 Posted February 27 I heard country ass Texas Hold EM on Dallas’ biggest urban station this morning. I was shook 4
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