BnPac Posted December 21, 2023 Posted December 21, 2023 1 minute ago, ThousandMiles said: I have a question.. Rocket or Plastic off the Sofa? Rocket. 6
Cbreezy Posted December 21, 2023 Posted December 21, 2023 3 hours ago, Iaintsorry said: Well, she released 4 during the peak of EDM-pop on radio and all the singles from 4 didn’t fit into the musical landscape at the time (and the singles suffered from this), so clearly this woman doesn’t care about what’s trending currently, in fact I would say she purposely goes against it just to prove a point While I agree with the idea that Bey sometimes goes against the grain, I feel we sometimes overstate how much this is the case. Sis was **hunting** for that hit with 4. Yes, RTW wasn’t EDM but it definitely has tempo and was meant for the club. When that didn’t work, they rush-released BTINH…which was still very on-trend in the grand scheme of Stargate-flavored mid tempo hits at the time. I’ll give you that she doubled down on R&B at a time the girls were drenched in EDM. But at the same time, it’s not like R&B (especially Pop leaning R&B) was “dead” in 2011. Bey was essentially staying loyal to her own established lane with 4 (while also pushing for hits within it). Which in many regards is way safer than putting out a “Rock” or “Rock-adjacent” album now. I cannot name a single Rock leaning song getting played on mainstream radio now or dominating streaming playlists now. Add to that the fact that even though Bey has Urban/R&B radio on lock, they’re unlikely to push a Rock-ish track (like 6 Inch or Don’t Hurt Yourself) either. So, I say this to say, if it’s a venture she does go down, I hope they read the room and find a clever way to market it that lives outside the confines of the conventional e.g. do it under an alias (Betty Black) or a soundtrack side album (ala The Gift), or declare there will be no serviced singles and peddle the idea that it’s best consumed whole. All extra af, but all of which I’d totally be here for. Because, as a Chart Hive who is really dialled into the importance of what songs like Cuff It and BMS do for her GP pull (which she *needs* for tour gross, album sales, and contemporary relevance), a “Rock album” is gonna need to be *worked* slightly differently to stand a chance. And much of that will rest on its marketing. I’d love for it to be as simple as her just dropping it and it slaying. And in a way, I’d love to be proven wrong with that happening, but I think we’ve all witnessed the usual “Pop girl does x genre for her latest transformation trick”. Even when it works, it often comes across contrived. So, IMO, for Bey it’ll all rest on the “story” (which, like Rennie, can loosely be about reclaiming Black genres) and how it’s presented to her largely non-Rock audience. 3
AxelFox Posted December 21, 2023 Posted December 21, 2023 5 minutes ago, ThousandMiles said: I have a question.. Rocket or Plastic off the Sofa? Technically Rocket on its own but if you do POTS + VG (which is usually how I listen to POTS) then that's a heavenly experience which Rocket cannot compete with 5
BnPac Posted December 21, 2023 Posted December 21, 2023 ^ Working to push your songs is normal. Releasing the most favorable song to get a hit is more than normal but it doesn't erase the fact that with 4, she went against the grain. All popular black artists at the time were EDM : Usher leading the pack. Even MJB had EDM songs at that time and Alicia went almost full pop. It was tough for RnB artists. Even the writers were not even getting enough proposition. But Beyoncé is Beyoncé, if she would make the album that her creative guts tell her to make (Rock, country or whatever) and let someone with commercial ear/ears for hits pick the most friendly song in the album, she would smash. As a matter of fact, 4 lead with EOT or even Countdown would have smashed. Also I disagree with the stance that 6Inch, DHY and Daddy Lessons didn't do anything. 1
king_queen Posted December 21, 2023 Posted December 21, 2023 Unpopular opinion: Yall give EOT tooooo much 2 4
Kristie Kuwa Posted December 21, 2023 Posted December 21, 2023 Platinum-Yonce is here to say and you can SEETHE! 1
ScorpiosGroove Posted December 21, 2023 Posted December 21, 2023 POTS is a really cute song with a nice melody but the only useful part is the godly VG transition, the rest could be kicked. she made that song only to shut the old & whiny r&b stans up Rocket’s nonsensical, long ass outro alone >>>> Snoozing On The Sofa 1
Devin Posted December 21, 2023 Posted December 21, 2023 3 hours ago, ThousandMiles said: I have a question.. Rocket or Plastic off the Sofa? i like both but something about POTS.
Lose My Breath Posted December 21, 2023 Posted December 21, 2023 I love her hair right now, she looks fierce Also, POTS eats Rocket 1 1
Devin Posted December 21, 2023 Posted December 21, 2023 the HIT that got AWAY and she will never be forgiven. and it deserved a place on the RWT. 4
Lose My Breath Posted December 21, 2023 Posted December 21, 2023 1 minute ago, Devin said: the HIT that got AWAY and she will never be forgiven. and it deserved a place on the RWT. She has so many hits that she just slept on 1
Fleahive Posted December 21, 2023 Posted December 21, 2023 16 hours ago, ScorpiosGroove said: her team tweeting this pic multiple times over a year knowing damn well nothing was happening is a different kind of twisted I remember beylegion tweeted “legion is feeling cozy” and changed their profile pic to include the word cozy before Renaissance came out but I think after the track list was revealed. It made me think cozy would be the next single or some interesting track but no one (but me) liked it until the tour. They’re hit or miss
bwhansen Posted December 21, 2023 Posted December 21, 2023 Yvette was just spotted in Brazil, why are they adding salt to injury
Kristie Kuwa Posted December 21, 2023 Posted December 21, 2023 22 minutes ago, Lose My Breath said: She has so many hits that she just slept on Oh she certainly does: - Mine - Blow (- Partition couldve been bigger) (- Flawless couldve been WAY bigger) - Hold Up - 6 Inch - Find Your Way Back - Alien Superstar - Heated (- AHAP couldve been bigger) 3 1
Monday Night Messiah Posted December 21, 2023 Posted December 21, 2023 2 hours ago, ScorpiosGroove said: POTS is a really cute song with a nice melody but the only useful part is the godly VG transition, the rest could be kicked. she made that song only to shut the old & whiny r&b stans up Rocket’s nonsensical, long ass outro alone >>>> Snoozing On The Sofa Y'all love to antagonize Justin Timberlake but get your life from his work with Bey lol.
Monday Night Messiah Posted December 21, 2023 Posted December 21, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Devin said: the HIT that got AWAY and she will never be forgiven. and it deserved a place on the RWT. It didn't get away. This was going to be the lead single but radio won't play it so she released "Drunk in Love" (urban) and "XO" (pop) instead. The world was different in 2013-14 and radio still had a lot of weight. Edited December 21, 2023 by Monday Night Messiah
ShouldersSideways Posted December 21, 2023 Posted December 21, 2023 40 minutes ago, Lovett said: This is kinda cruel 26 minutes ago, Monday Night Messiah said: Y'all love to antagonize Justin Timberlake but get your life from his work with Bey lol. When is the last time Justin Timberlake was mentioned in here? 1 1
PrudenceHCharmed Posted December 21, 2023 Posted December 21, 2023 38 minutes ago, Shelter said: ATRL said she was unknown there Thailand, The Philippines & Indonesia stanning!!!
Comedor Posted December 21, 2023 Posted December 21, 2023 Movie is premiering today in Brazil, got tickets and even the themed popcorn/ cup bundle. I’m wearing the same outfit from my Vegas dates. Unfortunately the internet has already moved on from the movie, meaning I have missed all the discussion around it. Thank you Beyonce. 2
ScorpiosGroove Posted December 21, 2023 Posted December 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Monday Night Messiah said: Y'all love to antagonize Justin Timberlake but get your life from his work with Bey lol. idgaf bout that man 1
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