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[Blue Rose]

39 minutes ago, kimberly said:

I get it if they mean they shouldn't sing along to that one part... but if they mean the whole thing, what even is the rationale?  what's next, married people shouldn't sing Single Ladies? skinny ******* shouldn't sing Thique? not allowed to sing Virgo's Groove if you're not a Virgo?  you don't have to 100% identify with every piece of art you consume or enjoy.

I feel like they can sing “im black” it’s not like they are saying the n word. It’s just part of the song, like you said we don’t have to identify with every aspect of a song

[Draper.]

5 hours ago, Bicassie said:

Time for a thinkpiece on this entire era…so here I go… 

 

When I saw the “miss 3rd ward” sash in the Lift Off backdrop coupled with the motherboard interlude and the mind control interlude something clicked in me. Renaissance was always supposed to be a declaration of complete detachement from her being an active public figure. Break My Soul being the lead single was absolutely intentional with especially the meaning of the song. This whole era was her telling us that she’s in a whole different state of mind and that she wont kill herself anymore to push or promote her art actively by doing promo or other things. The meaning behind the “miss 3rd ward” scene was about what her aspiration in life was and her answer was happiness. She quite literally is having a rebirth in the motherboard interlude where her old self dies and she gets reborn as this new version of herself. The mind control interlude with the captcha proving if you are a robot all has to do with her trying to say that she is a human being and that she’s never gonna push herself like before again and will be taking a step back, it’s not a coincidence that Ghost is playing during the interlude aswell. This whole robot theme of the tour clearly is a double entendre. It’s obviously robotic cause of this being an electronic album but also cause of the deeper underlying meaning behind the entire dehumanizing concept of being a popstar. The pandemic and motherhood has further made her choose a life of normalcy and fluidity compared to a hectic schedule. This is why she’s never touring outside of the US and EU again and also why they’ll stay summer tours just like all her last onces. She simply is distancing herself more and more from the limelight and this entire era is her breaking us into her new salvation….

 

thank god I live in Europe, poor intl hive 

This makes sense but I would’ve liked her to go all out for one of her musical peak eras. 

[ScorpiosGroove]

she looks so Formation World Tour here 

[nooniebao]

She’s so skinny omg ccxvjhgc. It happened so quickly too

[yonsé]

3 hours ago, Blue Rose said:

Twitter is a mess today. Just saw someone say that white people shouldn’t sing COZY

let me log out child

"im dark brown, dark skinned. light skinned. beige. florescent beige. *****, i'm black."

 

i too would shudder if a large swath of white people were screaming this around me.

[Triton]

6 hours ago, Devin said:

@Triton thoughts on the new SR look? 
 

It’s not as bulky but still silver which just blends with Rennie. 
 

She should use that Iris Van Herpen with the cape, the Elie Saab or Tiffany’s dresses and add in a light cape to them. Like the Cape on the silver Vivienne Westwood from OTR II

[Devin]

2 minutes ago, Triton said:

It’s not as bulky but still silver which just blends with Rennie. 
 

She should use that Iris Van Herpen with the cape, the Elie Saab or Tiffany’s dresses and add in a light cape to them. Like the Cape on the silver Vivienne Westwood from OTR II

!! 

 

I personally find this recent one her best SR fit. 

[Blue Rose]

17 minutes ago, yonsé said:

"im dark brown, dark skinned. light skinned. beige. florescent beige. *****, i'm black."

 

i too would shudder if a large swath of white people were screaming this around me.

maybe they identify with the fluorescent beige part, that’s very close to their skin tones. Just kidding 

i dont think we can “cancel” anyone for singing along to these lyrics. It’s not the n word and we all know the context of these words so it’s all coming from a good place.

But this is an interesting discussion, if more people are willing to chime in, Im open to be more educated about it.

[kimberly]

21 minutes ago, Triton said:

Like the Cape on the silver Vivienne Westwood from OTR II

she should just bring that back tbh

 

 

[satellites.™]

The CIL opening performance from Homecoming is Beyonce at her Jiren, her absolute highest form, she was literally on fire that entire performance like a Super Saiyan. 

[Chris]

Who's going to the Nashville show?

[kimberly]

5 minutes ago, Blue Rose said:

But this is an interesting discussion, if more people are willing to chime in, Im open to be more educated about it.

I'd love to hear what Black Hive think, if they're willing to share.

 

as a non-Black poc, I never feel comfortable singing along to certain parts of her songs. I am all in to cheer and support the sentiment but I don't want to be shouting "I just might be a Black Bill Gates in the making" over people like that, especially since her crowds have plenty of Black folks who can and will sing along and feel empowered by the message in a way that does not apply to me. some of her lines and messages aren't for me, and that's okay. in a way, white / non-Black people participating almost dilutes the impact of those lines, in my opinion. but obviously I am not and do not claim to be the authority on this.

[Devin]

1 hour ago, Chris said:

Who's going to the Nashville show?

@Click Clack

[Bender34]

1 hour ago, Chris said:

Who's going to the Nashville show?

 I'm so freaking excited. Strangely I think one of the things I'm most excited about is to hear her sing Dangerously in Love in person again for the first time since 2005. It's always been one of my favorite songs.

[mariposa]

Remember when people swore up and down that she needed to cut the entire Opulence segment... yet now it's one of the most liked segments of the show among casuals and stans alike 

[Chris]

39 minutes ago, Bender34 said:

 I'm so freaking excited. Strangely I think one of the things I'm most excited about is to hear her sing Dangerously in Love in person again for the first time since 2005. It's always been one of my favorite songs.

Didn't she perform it in like 2009?

[Chris]

All that hoeing paid off for @Click Clack

 

 

Congrats dude.

 

Enjoy the show and maybe practice some abstinence.

 

[Draper.]

1 hour ago, kimberly said:

I'd love to hear what Black Hive think, if they're willing to share.

 

as a non-Black poc, I never feel comfortable singing along to certain parts of her songs. I am all in to cheer and support the sentiment but I don't want to be shouting "I just might be a Black Bill Gates in the making" over people like that, especially since her crowds have plenty of Black folks who can and will sing along and feel empowered by the message in a way that does not apply to me. some of her lines and messages aren't for me, and that's okay. in a way, white / non-Black people participating almost dilutes the impact of those lines, in my opinion. but obviously I am not and do not claim to be the authority on this.

This is kinda like saying a male audience shouldn’t sing Run the World. At the end I don’t think that would help with spreading and understanding the messages of those songs. You are not supposed to only consume art that speaks about you, that misses the point of empathy and forces everyone to live in an echo chamber of their own opinions. As a gay person I’ve been raised with mostly straight representation in series and movies, that doesn’t mean I can understand the feelings in what is being depicted. You can’t expect every non-black person to stay silent at a Kendrick concert, or every straight non-queer person to not sing along to Sam Smith, imo. 

[kimberly]

26 minutes ago, Draper. said:

This is kinda like saying a male audience shouldn’t sing Run the World. At the end I don’t think that would help with spreading and understanding the messages of those songs. You are not supposed to only consume art that speaks about you, that misses the point of empathy and forces everyone to live in an echo chamber of their own opinions. As a gay person I’ve been raised with mostly straight representation in series and movies, that doesn’t mean I can understand the feelings in what is being depicted. You can’t expect every non-black person to stay silent at a Kendrick concert, or every straight non-queer person to not sing along to Sam Smith, imo. 

no no, that's not what I meant at all. I think it's just the first-person nature of some of her lines like "I might be a Black Bill Gates" and "I'm dark brown, dark skin, light skin, beige, fluorescent beige, ***** I'm Black!" that crosses a line for me. I have no problem singing along to her songs otherwise, and even the line prior in Formation "You just might be a Black Bill Gates in the making" is totally fine by me. Everyone should celebrate Black excellence and culture, that shouldn't be controversial at all.

 

in the same vein, men singing "Who run the world? Girls" is iconic and a non-issue. 

 

but now that you brought that up, I don't actually have an issue with men singing along to "If I Were a Boy," "Grown Woman" or "I'm That Girl" either lol. I guess the sentiment of those songs feel more universal and general, "that girl" is basically a unisex term among LGBT+ people anyway, and the songs feel like they're more about Beyoncé than about "women" as a group. but yelling "I'm Black!" gives me pause and I don't have trouble understanding why ppl on twitter would say white people shouldn't be singing that part. 

 

tl,dr what I said on the last page:

 

6 hours ago, kimberly said:

I get it if they mean they shouldn't sing along to that one part... but if they mean the whole thing, what even is the rationale?  what's next, married people shouldn't sing Single Ladies? skinny ******* shouldn't sing Thique? not allowed to sing Virgo's Groove if you're not a Virgo?  you don't have to 100% identify with every piece of art you consume or enjoy.

Edited July 14, 2023 by kimberly

[Draper.]

15 minutes ago, kimberly said:

no no, that's not what I meant at all. I think it's just the first-person nature of some of her lines like "I might be a Black Bill Gates" and "I'm dark brown, dark skin, light skin, beige, fluorescent beige, ***** I'm Black!" that crosses a line for me. I have no problem singing along to her songs otherwise, and even the line prior in Formation "You just might be a Black Bill Gates in the making" is totally fine by me. Everyone should celebrate Black excellence and culture, that shouldn't be controversial at all.

 

in the same vein, men singing "Who run the world? Girls" is iconic and a non-issue. 

 

but now that you brought that up, I don't actually have an issue with men singing along to "If I Were a Boy," "Grown Woman" or "I'm That Girl" either lol. I guess the sentiment of those songs feel more universal and general, "that girl" is basically a unisex term among LGBT+ people anyway, and the songs feel like they're more about Beyoncé than about "women" as a group. but yelling "I'm Black!" gives me pause and I don't have trouble understanding why ppl on twitter would say white people shouldn't be singing that part. 

 

tl,dr what I said on the last page:

 

Right right, it’s the same.

 

I feel like there’s nothing culturally wrong in enjoying or singing any type of song or lyric; the problem with the n-word or the f~word is social.

Edited July 14, 2023 by Draper.

[kimberly]

also this is from today, she was at the Brooklyn Central Library for Jay Z's "Book of HOV" exhibit, opening tomorrow.

 

 

10 minutes ago, Draper. said:

Right right, it’s the same.

 

I feel like there’s nothing culturally wrong in enjoying or singing any type of song or lyric; the problem with the n-word or the f~word is social.

I don't think it's "wrong" or offensive (and certainly nowhere near using a slur that doesn't belong to you), and I'm not really in any place to be offended on behalf of Black people, but it's not my personal preference  I'm just giving my perspective on why you won't see me singing along to that part and that's that.

Edited July 14, 2023 by kimberly

[Yellowfever]

3 hours ago, yonsé said:

"im dark brown, dark skinned. light skinned. beige. florescent beige. *****, i'm black."

 

i too would shudder if a large swath of white people were screaming this around me.

 

I’m white and screamed ‘b!tch i’m black’ during her Cozy performance. ngl I immediately looked around as if I had done something wrong, but no one cared. 

 

As long as we don’t sing the N word it’s okay, no?

[cloudbusting]

I’m about to be driving across the country the next few days and I just know her ass is going to do something while I’m unable to see and scream with y’all 

[Bender34]

1 hour ago, Chris said:

Didn't she perform it in like 2009?

Out of the four times I have seen her live so far, she's only performed it at one show, which was the Destiny Fulfilled and Loving It Tour

[bijonse]

You know what word not to say and as long as you respect that why are you thinking so hard about it 

 

Bey has been very black centric for her entire career like it’s just a part of her artistry and who she is

Edited July 14, 2023 by bijonse