fan base Beyoncé

[Flanders]

3 hours ago, Wizard said:

AUIYM slander... reserve that energy for ch*rch grill

 

Yeah, seriously. I avoid that song like poison  which is exactly what it is

[Mitsouko]

Church Girl haters are adopted children and their parents haven’t told them yet and don’t plan on it

 

[Bicassie]

So there are certain rumors circulating on another forum about Beyoncé and her family. I’ll put what I saw in a spoiler since it’s a potentially pretty big bombshell that would explain a lot about why the era is like it is…

 

 

Spoiler

I just went on L*******alley and the insiders there are spreading the rumors about something being wrong with one of the twins. The current rumor is that Sir apparently has autism and that’s why he still gets carried a lot unlike Rumi…

 

[Bicassie]

3 minutes ago, Wizard said:

diagnosing a 5yo being carried at an airport is a very big leap 

Yeah ikr…some people are so weird and out of pocket

[Massive_Teardrop]

7 hours ago, family.guy123 said:

Come on now. Don’t live up to the hive=stupid stereotype.

 

that album is better than Renaissance. And you can quote me on that

It’s a joke, calm down baby

[Massive_Teardrop]

4 hours ago, king_queen said:

I expect nothing more from ATRL than for someone to come in the base of a black woman and defend a man who looks at another black person and tells whoever tf to “take care of this p***y-a** n****r”.

 

And why are you calling someone stupid for posting a joke that definitely has a lot of truth in it?

Thank you!!! It was a joke that’s probably true tbh

[Otter]

8 hours ago, family.guy123 said:

Come on now. Don’t live up to the hive=stupid stereotype.

 

that album is better than Renaissance. And you can quote me on that

Not only was that unnecessarily rude its also loudly wrong since the majority base of most country music is republican...  

"Of the 2,400 counties where country and folk music are the most popular, 2,176 voted for Donald Trump in 2016, while only 224 voted for Hillary Clinton."
 

https://digg.com/2020/voting-behavior-music-preference-correlation

Anyway Morgan's album is good, has 30 tracks and it seems he has a monopoly on contemporary country since no one else in the genre is charting top 10 for more than a week or 2.  Whillst he's appealing to the huge proportion of republican/centrist/white audiences (of both genders), Bey is hitting a smaller niche...

Anyway all of this just makes the prospect of a folk/indie/country album from Bey more interesting, because aside from HipHop in the US it seems clear to me that across the globe, people more regularly use mellow music.

Edited January 4, 2023 by Otter

[*-ChriZ-*]

I dont understand why any Hive member would support a SINGLE from Beyonce in 2023? She clearly has showcased over and over again how she doesnt care. Why would we or anyone for that matter invest in such a attitude? She gets my free streams, thats it. Enjoy, boo!

[Bicassie]

17 days until her dubai show

[Massive_Teardrop]

1 minute ago, Bicassie said:

17 days until her dubai show

Why am I simultaneously perturbed and excited 

[Lovett]

7 minutes ago, Bicassie said:

17 days until her dubai show

[simon]

18 hours ago, swissman said:

The idea that Beyoncé cares even the slightest about getting a hit is very, very odd to me. Yes, I think she likes when she gets them. No, I don't think she wants to do anything to make that happen.

 

We kind of need to all-out accept her decision on this and not treat it as if she's doing something wrong, otherwise things get very frustrating very fast.

 

It was apparent most, I think, when the Nicki Minaj ***Flawless remix, which would've been a SURE a hit as any in her career was released via SoundCloud. For an artist of her commercial magnitude to do that, it really says a lot. And if it that remix premiered with a video...that would've been a #1 on lock, I think, given that was THE era for viral music video's making songs debut in the Top 3 of the Hot 100 with ease.

 

BUT we know Beyoncé doesn't care for a hit. We still can...but there's a difference in wanting her songs to be hits and wanting her to want her songs to be hits. One is possible, the other requires her to look at her own career differently than she has for nearly 10 years now.

I always say “Feelin Myself” would have been #1 if they released the video on YouTube. That video was a MOMENT! Sidebar: The fact that that video is still not on YouTube 
 

I feel the same about 7/11 if it was released correctly. 

Edited January 4, 2023 by simon

[swissman]

10 minutes ago, simon said:

I always say “Feelin Myself” would have been #1 if they released the video on YouTube. That video was a MOMENT! Sidebar: The fact that that video is still not on YouTube 
 

I feel the same about 7/11 if it was released correctly. 

Yes Feelin' Myself too! It's still kind of boggling that Beyoncé was really the only on present at that TIDAL event who committed to putting MEANINGFUL works up as Tidal exclusives (Nicki too I guess but I kind of think that had it not been Bey in the video, it wouldn't have been an exclusive, or at the very least not this long).

 

What was wrong about the 7/11 release though?

[simon]

17 minutes ago, swissman said:

Yes Feelin' Myself too! It's still kind of boggling that Beyoncé was really the only on present at that TIDAL event who committed to putting MEANINGFUL works up as Tidal exclusives (Nicki too I guess but I kind of think that had it not been Bey in the video, it wouldn't have been an exclusive, or at the very least not this long).

 

What was wrong about the 7/11 release though?

She released the video after the song released when, if it was a same day release, it would have worked. People didn’t like the song until the video released. She also put the video on her personal YouTube page and not her official one. (This was before the VEVO merger).

[Armani?]

The fact the music video for Feeling Myself is still a Tidal exclusive lol

[Space&Time]

47 minutes ago, Armani? said:

The fact the music video for Feeling Myself is still a Tidal exclusive lol

Wow, I didn’t know that. They should like make a directors cut and put it on YouTube immediately.

[yonsé]

13 hours ago, family.guy123 said:

Come on now. Don’t live up to the hive=stupid stereotype.

 

that album is better than Renaissance. And you can quote me on that

Ur in the wrong base sweetie.

 

the racist hick base is down the page a bit

[Otter]

Tidal really was the biggest mistake she made in her career. I hope the 100m or whatever her and Jay made when they sold it was worth the decline 

[Teezy]

5 minutes ago, Otter said:

Tidal really was the biggest mistake she made in her career. I hope the 100m or whatever her and Jay made when they sold it was worth the decline 

To them, of course it was worth it. Besides some streaming numbers, there’s been no visible negative impact on her legacy or bank account because of Tidal. I can assure you the over 100m they made is much more valuable than whatever gripes there are about streaming numbers. 

[BGKC]

I think the bloody hand is a reference to AUIYM. She’s probably pointing at her sick mind while we plead and beg for visuals and/or promo for 6 months. This is probably why the hive subconsciously hates this track. 

[swissman]

26 minutes ago, Otter said:

Tidal really was the biggest mistake she made in her career. I hope the 100m or whatever her and Jay made when they sold it was worth the decline 

I think if TIDAL were not a thing, she still wouldn't made her albums sales exclusives either way and the result would be pretty much the same.

 

Nothing really points to her wanting to get streaming figures and foolishly thinking TIDAL was the way to go...it seems more like overall the TIDAL exclusivity fit with her general marketing plans at the time. And in her own words, "If I gave 2 fucks about streaming numbers, would have put Lemonade up on Spotify" (TIDAL shade in itself, ie. her understanding that the platform is not some streaming beast).

 

And in her defence, based at least on the amount of big artists at the event, she was just doing what everyone else said they'd do too. The mistake is believing everyone would have the same energy for their albums when not even Jay-Z had TIDAL exclusives beyond a few weeks, and everyone else threw in bonus content not actual visual albums and entire streaming exclusivity for huge new albums.

 

Edited January 4, 2023 by swissman

[*-ChriZ-*]

1 hour ago, swissman said:

I think if TIDAL were not a thing, she still wouldn't made her albums sales exclusives either way and the result would be pretty much the same.

 

Nothing really points to her wanting to get streaming figures and foolishly thinking TIDAL was the way to go...it seems more like overall the TIDAL exclusivity fit with her general marketing plans at the time. And in her own words, "If I gave 2 fucks about streaming numbers, would have put Lemonade up on Spotify" (TIDAL shade in itself, ie. her understanding that the platform is not some streaming beast).

 

And in her defence, based at least on the amount of big artists at the event, she was just doing what everyone else said they'd do too. The mistake is believing everyone would have the same energy for their albums when not even Jay-Z had TIDAL exclusives beyond a few weeks, and everyone else threw in bonus content not actual visual albums and entire streaming exclusivity for huge new albums.

 

Regarding this topic, there are only 3 scenarios that apply to Bey:

A) She was oblivious/naive/stupid and believed other celebs would follow her suit or take Tidal as serious as she did -> unlikely cause she for SURE talked to Jay about all of that and knew he set up his own album a few days after the exclusivity of Tidal

B) She was well-aware that she was the only one taking it seriously and still didn't care -> possible

C) Her contract was set up that way: Maybe she got more money from Tidal as a security but had to provide true exclusives as a means to that bigger share -> also possible

[swissman]

3 minutes ago, *-ChriZ-* said:

Regarding this topic, there are only 3 scenarios that apply to Bey:

A) She was oblivious/naive/stupid and believed other celebs would follow her suit or take Tidal as serious as she did -> unlikely cause she for SURE talked to Jay about all of that and knew he set up his own album a few days after the exclusivity of Tidal

B) She was well-aware that she was the only one taking it seriously and still didn't care -> possible

C) Her contract was set up that way: Maybe she got more money from Tidal as a security but had to provide true exclusives as a means to that bigger share -> also possible

It does seem like option B is the likeliest example. Especially given how loyal we know Beyoncé is.

 

Either way, whether she was part of TIDAL or not, I don't think anything would have changed about her success during the TIDAL era, except that Feelin' Myself would've been a bigger chart hit without the TIDAL exclusivity of its video.

 

[*-ChriZ-*]

3 minutes ago, swissman said:

It does seem like option B is the likeliest example. Especially given how loyal we know Beyoncé is.

 

Either way, whether she was part of TIDAL or not, I don't think anything would have changed about her success during the TIDAL era, except that Feelin' Myself would've been a bigger chart hit without the TIDAL exclusivity of its video.

 

Well the longevity of the Lemonade era or lackthereof can definitely also be attributed to Tidal and her letting it rot on that platform

[swissman]

9 minutes ago, *-ChriZ-* said:

Well the longevity of the Lemonade era or lackthereof can definitely also be attributed to Tidal and her letting it rot on that platform

I'm not sure about that.

 

Madonna, Rihanna, Jay-Z all released albums between 2015 and 2017 with no TIDAL exclusivity or up to a week of TIDAL exclusivity. The precedent for keeping it off streaming for an extended period of time was purely her own, one set by ST's year-long absence from Spotify and Apple Music.

 

Unless we can prove she would have added Lemonade to Spotify/AM sooner than 3 years later had TIDAL not been a thing, I can't confidently say it's TIDAL's fault but an extension of a strategy she had already used the album prior, when she had not even signed on to TIDAL.

 

 

Edited January 4, 2023 by swissman