fridayteenage Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 (edited) Most recent data for Goddess Swift's song: #1 sales #3 on-demand #4 video #9 pandora #11 airplay WHEW, what kind of consumer-fueled smash? Otoh, queens of radio-fueled T10s since 2013 (couldn't get to a single digit peak in sales or streaming): Scars to Your Beautiful: #25 streaming, #17 sales Send My Love: #19 streaming, #10 sales = #8 Here: #11 streaming, #11 sales = #5 Don't #29 streaming, #11 sales = #9 Clarity #21 streaming, #12 sales = #8 Try #43 streaming, #10 sales = #9 Photograph: #24 streaming, #12 sales = #10 for one week Somebody: #13 streaming, #13 sales = #10 Ain't it Fun #39 streaming, #13 sales = #10 for one week Love Somebody ? streaming, #11 sales = #10 Sweet Nothing #10 streaming, #12 sales = #10 for one week Hmm, Scars so far is the first to not have at least one of the consumer components at #13 or higher. Here is the only one that got higher than #8, snagging T5. Edited February 1, 2017 by fridayteenage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opruh Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 10 minutes ago, fridayteenage said: Most recent data for Goddess Swift's song: #1 sales #3 on-demand #4 video #9 pandora #11 airplay WHEW, what kind of consumer-fueled smash? Otoh, queens of radio-fueled T10s since 2013 (couldn't get to a single digit peak in sales or streaming): Scars to Your Beautiful: #25 streaming, #17 sales Send My Love: #19 streaming, #10 sales = #8 Here: #11 streaming, #11 sales = #5 Don't #29 streaming, #11 sales = #9 Clarity #21 streaming, #12 sales = #8 Try #43 streaming, #10 sales = #9 Photograph: #24 streaming, #12 sales = #10 for one week Somebody: #13 streaming, #13 sales = #10 Ain't it Fun #39 streaming, #13 sales = #10 for one week Love Somebody ? streaming, #11 sales = #10 Sweet Nothing #10 streaming, #12 sales = #10 for one week Hmm, Scars so far is the first to not have at least one of the consumer components at #13 or higher. Here is the only one that got higher than #8, snagging T5. Truly the Queen of Pop! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roberto Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Gaga coming back at #97. I hope the SB gives the song some extra weeks. I'm not really sure if it could get a new peak, but I keep my hopes up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylerbv Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Adele Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATRL Moderator Porygon2z Posted February 1, 2017 ATRL Moderator Share Posted February 1, 2017 9 hours ago, alexanderao said: That's an insane hypothetical. You have to realize that most people like most songs being played on pop radio. You can look at the callout reports and realize that. The industry isn't very transparent, but I'm sure that they are very confident in the research that they perform and that they can estimate with accuracy how many people are listening at any given time. The bottom line is that 90% of the population listens to radio at least once a week, and Nielsen found that it is the most popular method of discovering new music. Removing it from the formula because audience numbers aren't EXACTLY correct would make the Hot 100 so much less accurate. Dozens of millions of people consume music through radio and to discount all of that consumption is absurd. With this statement I can argue that radio is a chart by itself. Since the music they keep on playing are the most popular ones that they get from the... you guessed it, Hot 100. It's it's basically a non-stop cycle of songs getting higher positions on Billboard thanks to radio which looks for the highest songs and plays them thus adding even more points to the songs and that's never ending. When new songs arrive then they gotta make space for them so that's the reason some songs keep on decreasing, they choose the ones that are getting down on billboard so it's the same chain over again. Songs by high profile artists are played non-stop at the beginning cuz radio wants "more people" but since their crazy airplay already helped the songs to debut high they will not let them and that's it. That's the reason some songs are getting high airplay even though sales and streaming are low, cuz radio sees they're popular on the charts, but the only reason they are high is because of themselves. This is what we got from our marketing research back in college with some radio stations. So yeah, that's true and here in Tijuana, Mexico they also use the Billboard Hot 100 to know what to play. Radio should weight WAY less if they don't want to drop it then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianc33710 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Since I posted the Top Ten longevity record earlier, I'll go back and do the Top 2, 3, and 5. Most Top 2 weeks: 1) Uptown Funk 18 weeks 2) One Sweet Day et al. 16 weeks 3) Closer et al. 15 weeks Top 3 weeks: 1) Uptown Funk and Closer (21 weeks) 2) Smooth 19 weeks 3) Unbreak My Heart and We Belong Together 18 weeks Top 5 weeks 1) Uptown Funk and How Do I Live 25 weeks 2) Closer 24 weeks 3) The Twist 23 weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilovemusic432 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Hot 100 dropouts for the week! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilovemusic432 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 yas at cheap thrills reaching 50 weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexanderao Posted February 1, 2017 Author Share Posted February 1, 2017 1 hour ago, Porygon2z said: With this statement I can argue that radio is a chart by itself. Since the music they keep on playing are the most popular ones that they get from the... you guessed it, Hot 100. It's it's basically a non-stop cycle of songs getting higher positions on Billboard thanks to radio which looks for the highest songs and plays them thus adding even more points to the songs and that's never ending. When new songs arrive then they gotta make space for them so that's the reason some songs keep on decreasing, they choose the ones that are getting down on billboard so it's the same chain over again. Songs by high profile artists are played non-stop at the beginning cuz radio wants "more people" but since their crazy airplay already helped the songs to debut high they will not let them and that's it. That's the reason some songs are getting high airplay even though sales and streaming are low, cuz radio sees they're popular on the charts, but the only reason they are high is because of themselves. This is what we got from our marketing research back in college with some radio stations. So yeah, that's true and here in Tijuana, Mexico they also use the Billboard Hot 100 to know what to play. Radio should weight WAY less if they don't want to drop it then. I'd love to talk with you about how radio chooses to play songs and why that might be flawed in many ways, but that is irrelevant to this discussion. We are talking about how much influence radio should have on the Hot 100. As I said some pages back, I believe that a metric's influence on the Hot 100 should depend on how many people consume music via that metric. After all, the Hot 100 is a popularity chart meant to measure consumption. So in the end, if we're talking about Hot 100 influence, I couldn't care less about how radio decides what to play. What I do care about is how popular radio is. The popularity of radio has not decreased, so I don't believe that there's a good reason to decrease its Hot 100 influence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCTV Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Sad Cheap Thrills will be taken out in 2 weeks.. (unless it hits #25) that's still the rule right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexanderao Posted February 1, 2017 Author Share Posted February 1, 2017 16 minutes ago, LCTV said: Sad Cheap Thrills will be taken out in 2 weeks.. (unless it hits #25) that's still the rule right? That's right– it really is unfortunate. Don't Let Me Down will suffer the same fate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umich Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Looks like DLMD will be the next victim of the 52/25 rule. edit AP at the rate CSTF! is going, it'll probably suffer the same fate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCTV Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Lemme make a cheap thrills Spotify playlist and loop the video for those streamsss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Letters From Adi Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 2 hours ago, brianc33616 said: Since I posted the Top Ten longevity record earlier, I'll go back and do the Top 2, 3, and 5. Most Top 2 weeks: 1) Uptown Funk 18 weeks 2) One Sweet Day et al. 16 weeks 3) Closer et al. 15 weeks Top 3 weeks: 1) Uptown Funk and Closer (21 weeks) 2) Smooth 19 weeks 3) Unbreak My Heart and We Belong Together 18 weeks Top 5 weeks 1) Uptown Funk and How Do I Live 25 weeks 2) Closer 24 weeks 3) The Twist 23 weeks WBT spent 16 weeks in Top 2 as well too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhreshDiamond Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Ugh shape of you better continue to block that Zyan/Taylor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simmnfierzig Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 5 hours ago, LCTV said: Sad Cheap Thrills will be taken out in 2 weeks.. (unless it hits #25) that's still the rule right? It stays on the Hot 100 in its 53rd week if it's top 25 or if it has more points than in its 52nd week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheena Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 1 hour ago, PhreshDiamond said: Ugh shape of you better continue to block that Zyan/Taylor Not going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FanOfPop Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 BILLBOARD HOT 100: New Peaks: #4 Machine Gun Kelly & Camila Cabello - Bad Things #5 ZAYN ft. Taylor Swift - I Don't Wanna Live Forever (Fifty Shades Darker) #10 Alessia Cara - Scars To Your Beautiful #14 Rihanna - Love On The Brain #18 The Weeknd ft. Daft Punk - I Feel It Coming #26 Adele - Water Under The Bridge #29 KYLE ft. Lil Yachty - iSpy #32 Clean Bandit ft. Sean Paul & Anne-Marie - Rockabye #35 Little Big Town - Better Man #37 Migos - T-Shirt #40 Chris Brown ft. Usher & Gucci Mane - Party #42 Blake Shelton - A Guy With A Girl #44 Jon Pardi - Dirt On My Boots #45 Thomas Rhett - Star Of The Show #51 Travis Scott - Goosebumps #52 Marian Hill - Down #53 Fitz And The Tantrums - HandClap #54 Kaleo - Way Down We Go #55 Dustin Lynch - Seein' Red #58 Post Malone ft. Quavo - Congratulations #60 Train - Play That Song #62 Michael Ray - Think A Little Less #63 Chris Young ft. Vince Gill - Sober Saturday Night #64 Khalid - Location #71 Eric Church ft. Rhiannon Giddens - Kill A Word #77 Luis Fonsi ft. Daddy Yankee - Despacito #79 Brantley Gilbert - The Weekend #80 Granger Smith - If The Boot Fits #83 PARTYNEXTDOOR - Not Nice #90 Dierks Bentley - Black New Entries: #81 Luke Bryan - Fast #84 Hey Violet - Guys My Age #86 Lauren Alaina - Road Less Traveled #87 Julia Michaels - Issues #92 2 Chainz x Gucci Mane x Quavo - Good Drank #93 Jason Aldean - Any Ol' Barstool #94 Calum Scott - Dancing On My Own #100 Wale ft. Lil Wayne - Running Back Re-Entries: #80 Granger Smith - If The Boot Fits #82 Bruno Mars - That's What I Like #91 John Mayer - Love On The Weekend #97 Lady Gaga - Million Reasons Drop-Outs: 28 weeks: Lil Uzi Vert - You Was Right 23 weeks: Martin Garrix ft. Bebe Rexha - In The Name Of Love 16 weeks: The Chainsmokers ft. Phoebe Ryan - All We Know 12 weeks: A Boogie Wit Da Hoodie - My Sh*t 8 weeks: Dwayne Johnson - You're Welcome 6 weeks: J. Cole - Neighbors 6 weeks: Steve Aoki ft. Louis Tomlinson - Just Hold On 5 weeks: 21 Savage - Red Opps 5 weeks: Chris Stapleton - Parachute 4 weeks: A Boogie Wit Da Hoodie ft. DJ SPINKING - Timeless 3 weeks: Travis Scott - Beibs In The Trap 1 week: Halsey - Not Afraid Anymore Biggest Jumps: + 47 Marian Hill - Down (#99 - #52) + 31 Kaleo - Way Down We Go (#85 - #54) + 23 Post Malone ft. Quavo - Congratulations (#81 - #58) + 20 Travis Scott - Goosebumps (#71 - #51) + 18 Brad Paisley - Today (#92 - #74) + 14 Michael Ray - Think A Little Less (#76 - #62) + 13 Jon Pardi - Dirt On My Boots (#57 - #44) + 12 Chris Young ft. Vince Gill - Sober Saturday Night (#75 - #63) + 12 PARTYNEXTDOOR - Not Nice (#95 - #83) + 11 Dustin Lynch - Seein' Red (#66 - #55) + 11 Luis Fonsi ft. Daddy Yankee - Despacito (#88 - #77) Biggest Falls: - 29 Marshmello - Alone (#60 - #89) - 22 Drake ft. 21 Savage - Sneakin' (#73 - #95) - 19 Ugly God - Water (#80 - #99) - 14 The Weeknd - Party Monster (#36 - #50) - 14 Rae Sremmurd - Swang (#61 - #75) - 13 Childish Gambino - Redbone (#63 - #76) - 13 Old Dominion - Song For Another Time (#83 - #96) - 12 Zay Hilfigerrr ft. Zayion McCall - Juju On That Beat (TZ Anthem) (#18 - #30) - 12 Alessia Cara - How Far I'll Go (#56 - #68) - 11 Ed Sheeran - Castle On The Hill (#28 - #39) Most Weeks In Top 100: 50 weeks: Sia ft. Sean Paul - Cheap Thrills 50 weeks: The Chainsmokers ft. Daya - Don't Let Me Down 38 weeks: Justin Timberlake - Can't Stop The Feeling! 34 weeks: Shawn Mendes - Treat You Better 33 weeks: D.R.A.M. ft. Lil Yachty - Broccoli 32 weeks: twenty one pilots - Heathens 27 weeks: Major Lazer ft. Justin Bieber & MO - Cold Water 26 weeks: Rob $tone & J. Davi$ & Spooks - Chill Bill 26 weeks: The Chainsmokers ft. Halsey - Closer 26 weeks: Hailee Steinfeld & Grey ft. Zedd - Starving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodflowers. Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Sia slaying so long I am perchedT. for "Guys My Age" to become a Top 10 hit and Hey Violet getting more stans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianc33710 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 9 hours ago, Letters From Adi said: WBT spent 16 weeks in Top 2 as well too. That's why I used et al. That's an abbreviation for "and others." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popmusic Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Basically it means we have to find out new formula, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowino Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Closer is an absolute beast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FanOfPop Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Any chance for "Believer" to crack Hot 100? Or we have to wait till next week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATRL Moderator Azulito Posted February 1, 2017 ATRL Moderator Share Posted February 1, 2017 On 1/31/2017 at 0:10 PM, simmnfierzig said: 8 Scars To Your Beautiful 251 (+2) Ahh talent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNNAMI Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 1 hour ago, FanOfPop said: Any chance for "Believer" to crack Hot 100? Or we have to wait till next week? not really with not releasing on friday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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