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Madame X OUT of BB200 after 2 weeks. Why?


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Who cares? She's 61 and has an illustrious 37 year career behind her :deadbanana4: 

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4 hours ago, cityfolk said:

The Gaga stans in here thinking they're doing something :clown:

 

Madonna is 60 years old and a total of about 20 albums in, and still has a touring fanbase large enough to propel her to #1 with almost 100K units with the tour bundles, and would've been around the top 25 at least without them. This was her 9th #1 album. The fact that this outdid Caution, Liberation, and any album by any & all of her peers in the last decade or so is incredible. She doesn't give a ****.

#1-#77-OUT! :bibliahh:

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4 hours ago, Brussels said:

I'm not really surprised. Her longest charting album is Like a Virgin with 109 weeks. COADF charted only 37 weeks too. 

That's a lie :deadbanana2:

 

The First Album: 168 weeks

The Immaculate Collection: 148 weeks

Like a Virgin: 109 weeks

 

COADF charting for 37 weeks with a top 10 hit that stayed there for 2 weeks only, one 2nd single that peaked inside the top 60 and 2 songs that failed to chart is amazing as well.

 

In the 80's, Madonna was releasing albums almost yearly back in the day among studio albums, soundtracks, remix albums, greatest hits (that cannibalized her studio album sales like it did for most people) .

 

Also...it wasn't usual for albums to chart for as long as Like A Virgin:

 

Look at Janet Jackson. Her Rhythm Nation album had like 6 or 7 singles. She had #1 hits in 3 different years...no re-releases. The album was inside the top 200 for 108 weeks "only". One less week than Like A Virgin, an album that was promoted for a lot less time. (both .janet and Control stayed there for 106 weeks)

 

Look at Mariah. Her Daydream album with like 3 #1 hits, one of them was #1 for 8 weeks, the other for 16 weeks, the other for 2 weeks (that's 26 weeks) and stayed inside the Billboard Top 200 81 weeks and that was it.

The Emmancipation of Mimi was in for 74 weeks with a re-release, 2 #1 hits, one #2 hit and another top 20 hit.

 

In fact, Janet, Mariah, Celine Dion etc never managed an album to stay more time in the top 200 than Madonna's first album. Only Whitney did better and it was with her first album. Not even The Bodyguard managed that stability.

 

Albums used to chart differently before streaming points. You guys are used at streaming being included and stuff like Lana's Born To Die to be a rule...when they were not back in the day.

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5 hours ago, cityfolk said:

The Gaga stans in here thinking they're doing something :clown:

 

Madonna is 60 years old and a total of about 20 albums in, and still has a touring fanbase large enough to propel her to #1 with almost 100K units with the tour bundles, and would've been around the top 25 at least without them. This was her 9th #1 album. The fact that this outdid Caution, Liberation, and any album by any & all of her peers in the last decade or so is incredible. She doesn't give a ****.

When Madonna's career was 10 years old she had her first album, Like A Virgin, True Blue, Like a Prayer, 3 successful movie roles, 2 movie soundtrack albums released with #1 hits, the best selling GH album ever for a solo act was out and she had 3 tours. 2 of them were legendary and one of them was considered the most important tou from the 90's by the Rolling Stone Magazine.

 

Gaga had The Fame, Born This Way, Artpop, Joanne, C2C, one movie role, 1 successful OST album, 4 tours, 2 of them cancelled halfway through.

 

This is what people should be comparing. The woman still has to do everything Madonna did after that and better to reach her :deadbanana2:

Let's see if in 27 more years she's still debuting at #1. 

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12 hours ago, Stankonia said:

Quality won. :jonny:

Caution first week : less than 70k 

Madame X : 216k 

Hell, I think MX’d 2nd week even matched or came close to Mariah’s 1st. 

And her career is a decade older. 

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i guess Daddy Bruce won. 2-30-60- :clown:

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The GP isn't just here for her anymore, which is totally okay since she doesn't need them anymore also. She probably just released this album for her fans' sake. 

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These years of mediocre albums ruined it.

SHE WAS SUPPOSED TO REMAIN A WINNER WITH THIS ALBUM.

 

I can't stand it.

 

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This is probably cuz of streaming, there are like 100 albums that are hanging in the BB200 cuz of the streams of 1 song :rip: 

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4 hours ago, tiagol88 said:

When Madonna's career was 10 years old she had her first album, Like A Virgin, True Blue, Like a Prayer, 3 successful movie roles, 2 movie soundtrack albums released with #1 hits, the best selling GH album ever for a solo act was out and she had 3 tours. 2 of them were legendary and one of them was considered the most important tou from the 90's by the Rolling Stone Magazine.

 

Gaga had The Fame, Born This Way, Artpop, Joanne, C2C, one movie role, 1 successful OST album, 4 tours, 2 of them cancelled halfway through.

 

This is what people should be comparing. The woman still has to do everything Madonna did after that and better to reach her :deadbanana2:

Let's see if in 27 more years she's still debuting at #1. 

I get y'all point, but comparing the market of the 80s/90s with today will NEVER make any sense :lmao: 

 

Social Media and the internet alone make it easier for stars to fade quickly as ****. Music is accessible everywhere. You can get FED UP with a popstar or a celebrity for like 1 week, whereas back then you rarely would see them on TV Or a magazine and it would excite the **** out of you..  really not comparable. 

 

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Pleased to see @Stankonia keeping up with the #1 debut album Madame X by the queen of pop Madonna! Also thrilled you expected far more from Madonna - she does certainly set the bar so high she struggles to keep up with it even herself sometimes.

 

ANYONE assuming a 60 year old woman was gonna have have some kind of phenomenal chart run is... well, you can choose your own adjective.

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she doesn’t have to prove herself anymore lol

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Ok the ageism isn't cute especially coming from those who are like Gaga and Beyoncé fans because they're so dumb that they don't realise that their faves will also be old one day (if they don't die young) and that they will go through the exact same thing. This happens to everyone. Sad that it does but it does, and it certainly doesn't reflect badly on Madonna or her music (which - by the way, this album was actually great and her best one in years).

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13 minutes ago, Mariano said:

I get y'all point, but comparing the market of the 80s/90s with today will NEVER make any sense :lmao: 

 

Social Media and the internet alone make it easier for stars to fade quickly as ****. Music is accessible everywhere. You can get FED UP with a popstar or a celebrity for like 1 week, whereas back then you rarely would see them on TV Or a magazine and it would excite the **** out of you..  really not comparable. 

 

But at the same time it was widely more impressive to reach the global stardom that she or MJ reached, they were practically the first viral Pop stars ever. 

 

OT : a smash album in Brazil 40 years into her career. The only important market. :1stplace:

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This is tragic but at least she got that 9th #1 and served an album loved by her fans and critics alike.

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6 hours ago, tiagol88 said:

That's a lie :deadbanana2:

 

The First Album: 168 weeks

The Immaculate Collection: 148 weeks

Like a Virgin: 109 weeks

 

Look at Mariah. Her Daydream album with like 3 #1 hits, one of them was #1 for 8 weeks, the other for 16 weeks, the other for 2 weeks (that's 26 weeks) and stayed inside the Billboard Top 200 81 weeks and that was it.

The Emmancipation of Mimi was in for 74 weeks with a re-release, 2 #1 hits, one #2 hit and another top 20 hit.

 

In fact, Janet, Mariah, Celine Dion etc never managed an album to stay more time in the top 200 than Madonna's first album. Only Whitney did better and it was with her first album. Not even The Bodyguard managed that stability.

 

Albums used to chart differently before streaming points. You guys are used at streaming being included and stuff like Lana's Born To Die to be a rule...when they were not back in the day.

Mariah:

1990 - 113 weeks - Mariah Carey

1991 - 54 weeks - Emotions

1992 - 57 weeks - Unplugged

1993 - 128 weeks - Music Box

1994 - 82 weeks - Merry Christmas

1995 - 81 weeks - Daydream

1997 - 55 weeks - Butterfly

1998 - 62 weeks - #1's

1999 - 35 weeks - Rainbow

2001 - 12 weeks - Glitter

2001 - 12 weeks - Greatest Hits

2002 - 22 weeks - Charmbracelet

2003 - 5 weeks - Remixes

2005 - 72 weeks - TEOM

2008 - 27 weeks - E=MC²

2008 - 9 weeks - Ballads

2009 - 27 weeks - Memoirs

2010 - 15 weeks - MCIIY

2014 - 8 weeks - MIAMTEC

2015 - 5 weeks - Infinity

2018 - 3 weeks - Caution

 

9 albums which have spent over 1 year on the Top 200. Mariah's Top 200 stability is unique because look at the years in which she released albums, those are back to back albums which spent over 1 year in the Top 200... which makes that in certain years she's had 2 or sometimes even 3 albums in the Top 200 at the same time. 

 

All of Madonna's and Mariah's (and every older acts) chartruns were cut short anyway, because up until 2009, none of our favs albums were allowed to re-enter once they've dropped out of the Top 200, they then went on to chart on the catalogue chart. 

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11 hours ago, cityfolk said:

The Gaga stans in here thinking they're doing something :clown:

 

Madonna is 60 years old and a total of about 20 albums in, and still has a touring fanbase large enough to propel her to #1 with almost 100K units with the tour bundles, and would've been around the top 25 at least without them. This was her 9th #1 album. The fact that this outdid Caution, Liberation, and any album by any & all of her peers in the last decade or so is incredible. She doesn't give a ****.

:siptea:

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1 hour ago, stevyy said:

 

All of Madonna's and Mariah's (and every older acts) chartruns were cut short anyway, because up until 2009, none of our favs albums were allowed to re-enter once they've dropped out of the Top 200, they then went on to chart on the catalogue chart. 

That's actually true and i forgot to mention on my previous post :emofish:

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Her power :jonny6:

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Her voice sounds awful on it so I'm not surprised no one was buying it

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