State of Grace. Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Just now, IndieKid said: Yeah I gotta agree there. She transcends genre labels with music that her fanbase really responds to. Hell, she could do a hard rock album and it'd sell like an iPhone, because she's earned that trust. I'm not her biggest fan (as we both know lol) but I would be stupid to deny that she's earned that. there are some points you have made Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karasu Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 8 hours ago, iHype. said: All her other albums are atleast 6x Platinum with SPS? If this was released in a 2011-3 climate would have sold pretty the same of RED did in the long run. Next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova_23 Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 4 minutes ago, Almost Home said: The argument I’m sticking with is the fact that her SPS isn’t good. Her sales are great but a huge decline and the streaming isn’t making up for the decline in popularity. Why would I stream the album when I own it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armani? Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 8 minutes ago, Timber said: What are Lemonade and Anti at? I know they were near that mark a while ago too. Lemonade is at 2.7 million. She won't put it on Spotify & Apple so it'll never reach 3 million. Idk about ANTI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iHype. Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Just now, Badgalbriel said: All her albums didnt go 6x plat after 6 months only The dumb jumped out It's doing 20k a week now. Are you implying it's still gonna do 3 more million? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badgalbriel Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Just now, iHype. said: It's doing 20k a week now. Are you implying it's still gonna do 3 more million? yes. Its gonna sell as long as she releases music. Her albums always get great number whenever a new one comes out. It's performing exactly like Speak Now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karasu Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 8 hours ago, Almost Home said: 2 million isn’t even 1% of the US population. There’s plenty of room for interest. Not this argument being used again on pure sales discussion Bye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova_23 Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, Almost Home said: 2 million isn’t even 1% of the US population. There’s plenty of room for interest. Then I guess everyone not named Adele and Taylor need to be worried. Selling less than 200k first week? YIKES! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timber Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 4 minutes ago, iHype. said: All her other albums are atleast 6x Platinum with SPS? This number is under the new weighing for all past weeks with the 1250/3750 streams thing. If the other 2 albums had new totals under those weighs Anti would probably be near 3m, and Lemonade around 2.7m. This number includes pre-release song sales + audio streams. It's also under the new weighing. Wouldn't Lemonade actually get boost since Tidal streams are exclusively premium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosingHimWasBlue Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Armani? said: Lemonade is at 2.7 million. She won't put it on Spotify & Apple so it'll never reach 3 million. Idk about ANTI With Tidal fake streams, it should’ve more than enough to reach 4 Millions SPS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iHype. Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Theus said: If this was released it would have sold pretty the same of RED did in the long run. Next. Based on what? The album is on streaming, which generates enough units to make up for the sales decline since 2006-2012. Just now, Badgalbriel said: yes. Its gonna sell as long as she releases music. Her albums always get great number whenever a new one comes out. It's performing exactly like Speak Now For it to do 3 million more, it'd have to do 20k for the next 150 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timber Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 1 minute ago, LosingHimWasBlue said: With Tidal fake streams, it should’ve more than enough to reach 4 Millions SPS Fake Tidal streams are included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armani? Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Just now, LosingHimWasBlue said: With Tidal fake streams, it should’ve more than enough to reach 4 Millions SPS Those "fake" Tidal streams were for like two weeks. Nobody uses Tidal outside of free trials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova_23 Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Almost Home said: Just Adele. Taylor is declining heavily. Sure Jan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TtaraHae Posted July 21, 2018 Author Share Posted July 21, 2018 WHEW, the way Miss Swift effortlessly wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova_23 Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, Almost Home said: This thread is about Taylor’s decline. Compared to her last she’s declining heavily. If everyone else is measured up the same way why shouldn’t she be? Adele was called a failure for months until 25 surpassed 20 million copies just because it couldn’t perform as well as 21 but this is great? The Swifties should dig up all the attempts of dragging Adele first. This thread isn't about Taylor's decline. This thread is about the fact that she's the first female artist since Adele to sell 3M. You're the one who made it about Taylor's so called "decline." And if anyone was dragging Adele for 25's album sales then they probably came out of the same mental institution that let you on the loose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova_23 Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 1 minute ago, TtaraHae said: WHEW, the way Miss Swift effortlessly wins. The way she has a certain hater in this thread pressed talking about her decline while she is on a $400M grossing tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iHype. Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 8 minutes ago, AALIYAH DANA said: Billboard doesn't track or acknowledge Pre-release SPS units though And not you blaming the new formula for her doing 3 million when this new formula has only been around for 3 weeks Billboard includes pre-release SPS units in totals. And no, I'm saying they went back and added the formula to ALL of its total streams. This 2017 number includes pre-release SPS: 2,336,000 And this is her 2018 mid-year number: 545,000 + 2,336,000 = 2,881,000 The album has only done about 40K since mid-year two weeks ago, which would put it at 2.92m. However, they went back and re-weighed all the streams even prior to the rule for totals, and that pushed it to 2.97m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armani? Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 1 minute ago, AALIYAH DANA said: Lemonade SPS total is put into questions considering the Tidal inflation. "Tidal inflation" How long has it been N/A on Billboard 200? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueMoon77 Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Almost Home said: That’s a bit of a harsh decline compared to 1989. Taylor’s album that was only released 8 months ago hasn’t reached the sales of her most successful album that was released 4 years ago. Reputation following suit with all her other album’s success. 12 years into her career. Head bitch right there Edited July 21, 2018 by BlueMoon77 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badgalbriel Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 The Beyonce fans are desperate here uh? I guess they are really insecure since EIL showed Beyonce can't really sell an album when there's not a hype media machine selling it for her. Well, give me as many WP as you want, but some truth need to be told. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinnyc Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 It looks like this Almost HOME is very disappointed about 3 MILLION? Where is the HOME? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheArgonaut Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Miss Swift, her power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamCY Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 It’s what she deserves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamCY Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 It’s what she deserves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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