istan4badgalriri Posted October 30, 2017 Posted October 30, 2017 TOP 20 1 PORTUGAL. THE MAN - Feel It Still: 175.741 (+ 1.807) 2 CHARLIE PUTH - Attention: 137.947 (- 1.832) 3 LOGIC - 1-800-273-8255 f/A.Cara/Khalid: 123.030 (+ 0.502) 4 DEMI LOVATO - Sorry Not Sorry: 121.327 (+ 0.555) 5 SHAWN MENDES - There's Nothing Holdin' Me...: 120.487 (- 0.648) 6 P!NK - What About Us: 118.798 (+ 0.920) 7 LIAM PAYNE - Strip That Down f/Quavo: 111.494 (- 0.883) 8 IMAGINE DRAGONS - Thunder: 110.514 (+ 2.186) 9 NIALL HORAN - Slow Hands: 108.030 (- 0.389) 10 MAROON 5 - What Lovers Do f/SZA: 105.629 (+ 0.809) 11 CARDI B - Bodak Yellow: 94.157 (- 1.393) 12 FRENCH MONTANA - Unforgettable f/Swae Lee: 93.844 (- 1.286) 13 SAM SMITH - Too Good At Goodbyes: 93.479 (+ 0.488) 14 ED SHEERAN - Shape Of You: 92.903 (- 1.612) 15 IMAGINE DRAGONS - Believer: 86.828 (- 1.082) 16 KESHA - Praying: 85.683 (+ 0.647) 17 THE CHAINSMOKERS & COLDPLAY - Something Just Like This: 82.870 (+ 0.279) 18 POST MALONE - Rockstar f/21 Savage: 77.458 (+ 0.966) 19 BRUNO MARS - That's What I Like: 76.802 (- 0.172) 20 ED SHEERAN - Perfect: 74.820 (+ 0.969) OTHERS LUKE COMBS - When It Rains It Pours: 71.329 (- 0.375) CAMILA CABELLO - Havana f/Young Thug: 68.492 (+ 2.304) THOMAS RHETT - Unforgettable: 65.920 (+ 0.546) J BALVIN F/WILLY WILLIAM - Mi Gente f/Beyonce: 64.487 (+ 0.100) CARLY PEARCE - Every Little Thing: 59.159 (+ 0.283) LANCO - Greatest Love Story: 52.104 (+ 0.305) HALSEY - Bad At Love: 50.118 (+ 1.342) KELLY CLARKSON - Love So Soft: 47.936 (+ 0.835) TAYLOR SWIFT - Ready For It: 46.604 (+ 0.871) BLAKE SHELTON - I'll Name The Dogs: 42.242 (+ 0.111) G-EAZY - No Limit f/A$AP Rocky, Cardi B: 38.136 (+ 0.851) KENDRICK LAMAR - LOVE. f/Zacari: 35.991 (+ 1.614) DUA LIPA - New Rules: 35.023 (+ 0.403) CHARLIE PUTH - How Long: 34.262 (+ 1.017) GUCCI MANE - I Get The Bag f/Migos: 33.096 (+ 0.825) KHALID - Young Dumb & Broke: 31.130 (+ 0.997) SZA - The Weekend: 28.609 (+ 0.480) MAX - Lights Down Low f/Gnash: 25.578 (+ 0.659) MACKLEMORE - Good Old Days f/Kesha: 17.457 (+ 0.720) HAILEE STEINFELD & ALESSO - Let Me Go f/FGL & Watt: 13.108 (- 0.010) CALVIN HARRIS - Faking It f/Kehlani,Lil Yachty: 12.025 (+ 0.786) NIALL HORAN - Too Much To Ask: 11.906 (+ 1.095) MIGOS - MotorSport f/N. Minaj & Cardi: 8.591 (+ 1.810) SELENA GOMEZ X MARSHMELLO - Wolves: 5.617 (+ 1.146) TAYLOR SWIFT - Gorgeous: 4.695 (- 0.023) LIAM PAYNE - Bedroom Floor: 1.752 (+ 0.118)
Enoch Posted October 30, 2017 Posted October 30, 2017 2 hours ago, butterflysupreme said: Oops is way bigger and more remembered, it’s not even close Toxic is essentially britney's signature song at this point
H-I-M Posted October 30, 2017 Posted October 30, 2017 6 minutes ago, blackbeatxx said: TAYLOR SWIFT - Gorgeous: 4.695 (- 0.023) TAYLOR SWIFT - Ready For It: 46.604 (+ 0.871) I thought radios dropped LWYMMD to make room for the next songs.
blackbeatxx Posted October 30, 2017 Posted October 30, 2017 3 minutes ago, H-I-M said: TAYLOR SWIFT - Ready For It: 46.604 (+ 0.871) I thought radios dropped LWYMMD to make room for the next songs. That's what we've been told...
Green Posted October 30, 2017 Posted October 30, 2017 Look will pass the torch to RFI tomorrow 35. TAYLOR SWIFT - Look What You Made Me Do 49.967 -4.390 (-1) 40. TAYLOR SWIFT - Ready For It 46.540 +0.890 (+2)
butterflysupreme Posted October 30, 2017 Posted October 30, 2017 1 hour ago, Enoch said: Toxic is essentially britney's signature song at this point WHAT No BOMT is her signature song but Oops comes really close and is more referenced. Toxic is very, very far behind
iHype. Posted October 30, 2017 Posted October 30, 2017 3 hours ago, nick4bty said: I actually think pop radio is doing a good job playing to a more diverse audience. Is this serious? How many R&B songs have went T10? What about Rap? What about Country? The longest #1 in history was a Latin song this year. How many other Latin songs have they accepted since? And sure its it’s good for them to try to support flopping / upcoming hits, but they shouldn’t be receiving more peak support than multi-week #1 hits. They’re essentially choosing to ignore the most popular hits. If the scenario was Pop Radio is supporting a song that isn’t Top 100 on iTunes or Spotify over a #1 hit that’s Pop by a Pop Girl then the discussion would be “payola!! They’re supporting a flop more than this girls major hit!” but now its a good thing they’re doing that since it’s a Rap hit.
Cap10Planet Posted October 30, 2017 Posted October 30, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, R!ck said: Exactly, take a look at the On-Demand chart http://www.billboard.com/charts/on-demand-songs it's HORRIBLE, urban songs domination, NO DIVERSITY AT ALL, mostly white teenage boys and girls listening to these songs, yuck ...compared to the Mainstream Top 40 http://www.billboard.com/charts/pop-songs where diversity blooms, all kind of genres from pop to alternative, from r&b to hip-hop even reggaeton bits, the problem in ATRL and black tumblr is that we black people (and I as a mixed race guy) have to cater to these urban crap to not be treated as racists lol. I'm looking at that chart, and I fail to see anything that would indicate "diversity." Edited October 30, 2017 by Cap10Planet
ClashAndBurn Posted October 30, 2017 Posted October 30, 2017 7 hours ago, Henstridge said: Are you seriously trying to argue that a meme song is bigger than one of the biggest pop songs of all time? Toxic was not big at all. Not in the US anyway. But that's not really her fault. She released it in an era that pop music was very much dwarfed by urban hits. But it only spent, what? Three weeks in the US top ten? And it barely scraped in, considering it only peaked at #9. Not only that, but it's not even one of her biggest hits period. "Baby One More Time," "Oops," "Womanizer," "Circus," "3," and "Scream & Shout" were all bigger both domestically and globally.
ClashAndBurn Posted October 30, 2017 Posted October 30, 2017 2 minutes ago, Henstridge said: Charts mean nothing Misery Business missed the top 20 and it's still one of the biggest songs of the 00s Even "Misery Business" wasn't that big in the grand scheme of things. Yes, it was big for Paramore, because truthfully they didn't have as many hits as their labelmates did (Cobra Starship, Gym Class Heroes, and more recently Twenty One Pilots - even Panic! had -a- top ten that permeated culture enough to win a VMA for Video Of The Year in 2006), but relatively speaking, it didn't sell as much as other moderate hits did at the time, and it wasn't played enough on radio (only hitting top ten on Alternative) to really have that much mainstream exposure.
simmnfierzig Posted October 30, 2017 Posted October 30, 2017 1 hour ago, blackbeatxx said: TAYLOR SWIFT - Gorgeous: 4.695 (- 0.023) 4.7 million more than WTNY and OOTW had Laughing at Look or RFI makes some sense, but Gorgeous is a weird song to pick on
blackbeatxx Posted October 30, 2017 Posted October 30, 2017 2 minutes ago, simmnfierzig said: 4.7 million more than WTNY and OOTW had Laughing at Look or RFI makes some sense, but Gorgeous is a weird song to pick on I see your point but the thing is RFI should be smashing in order to NOT pick on Gorgeous at all, imo
Sinister Posted October 30, 2017 Posted October 30, 2017 y'all are full of crap where was this uproar when pop girls were dominating the charts and only pop songs were in the top 10? because it's urban y'all wanna scream Diversity? what y'all know about diversity? especially when ya faves sprinkle a slightly edgy beat or throw in some rhyming word flow y'all quick to label it something else? save the faux outrage
brianc33710 Posted October 30, 2017 Posted October 30, 2017 I'm with @iHype. Top 40 was far more inclusive back in the early to mid 2000s than today. At that time, the Top 40 didn't genre dramatically overplaying songs, peaking at around 84 spins/week. So the format played Country crossovers (Faith Hill's Breathe was the #1 Hot 100 song of 2000), Rock (Nickleback's How You Remind Me was the #1 Hot 100 song for 2002, Santana's Smooth was #2 on 2000s Hot 100), more Rock-leaning Alternative (Lifehouses's Hanging By A Moment was 2001s #1 Hot 100 song) and Linkin Park's In The End was huge at Top 40. Vertical Horizon's Everything You Want was #5 on the Hot 100 YE in 2000. As far as Top 40 goes, Breathe peaked at #7, Smooth spent 7 weeks at #1, Everything You Want peaked at #2 for 4 weeks, but was #1 YE at Top 40. Three Doors Down's Kryptonite, When I'm Gone, and Here Without You all reached #1, and Puddle of Mudd's Blurry was huge. Green Day's Boulevard of Broken Dreams spent 4 wks at #1, Nickleback's Photograph and Hinder's Lips of an Angel both also hit #1 at Top 40. Since the last true Rock crossover (originating from Rock, not Alternative to Rock like Radioactive), Shinedown's Second Chance hit #3 in 2009, Rock hasn't really seen the light of day at Top 40. Despite huge sales and remarkable streaming for its home format, The Sound of Silence barely scraped the Top 40 50 position chart. Also Taylor Swift had to dramatically remix her Country songs for Top 40. Only Lady Antebellum's Need You Now, #2 at Top 40 (#2 2010 YE H 100), stands out as a Country crossover without a dramatic remix. Body Like A Back Road peaked at #11. Even its audience numbers were low because many of the larger Top 40 stations refused to put Hunt in heavier rotation (it should finish 2017 in the Top10 though). Of course, even with Cruise's dramatic remix, the song stalled at #8 (#9 YE H 100) with once again very low audience numbers.
Mediabase Posted October 30, 2017 Posted October 30, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, ClashAndBurn said: Toxic was not big at all. Not in the US anyway. But that's not really her fault. She released it in an era that pop music was very much dwarfed by urban hits. But it only spent, what? Three weeks in the US top ten? And it barely scraped in, considering it only peaked at #9. Not only that, but it's not even one of her biggest hits period. "Baby One More Time," "Oops," "Womanizer," "Circus," "3," and "Scream & Shout" were all bigger both domestically and globally. Are you serious? Toxic was massive in the US. No1 on pop radio for weeks and it helped the album sell. It was MASSIVE. That's what we are trying to say. That the Hot100 was not representative of what was popular. Especially in 2003 and 2004 it was basically identical to the airplay chart which had very inflated rhythmic and urban audience numbers. Do you honestly believe that "3", "Womanizer" and "Hold It Against Me" were bigger than Toxic in the US just because they hit No1 on the Hot100? Toxic would have been a multI week Hot100 no1, had it not been release in 2004 but after 2006 when digital sales finally had influence or before 2003 when physical singles sales existed. Edited October 30, 2017 by Mediabase
Eóghan Posted October 30, 2017 Posted October 30, 2017 Why is radio doing Sam Smith so dirty? He's doing wonderful on Spotify and iTunes, can't say the same about most songs who got past 100 million AI this year.
Mediabase Posted October 30, 2017 Posted October 30, 2017 POP:11 9 KESHA Praying 9958 9573 385 56.482+82 spins+81 bullet+0.499 audienceHOT AC:8 8 KESHA Praying 4403 4123 280 25.070+37 spins+13 bullet+0.133 audience This might actually hit Top5 both on top40 and hot ac.
MANUELF Posted October 30, 2017 Posted October 30, 2017 Did Love Story or You Belong With Me had a pop version? I know Teardrops on my guitar had one
sunbleach Posted October 30, 2017 Posted October 30, 2017 4 hours ago, Mediabase said: Are you serious? Toxic was massive in the US. No1 on pop radio for weeks and it helped the album sell. It was MASSIVE. That's what we are trying to say. That the Hot100 was not representative of what was popular. Especially in 2003 and 2004 it was basically identical to the airplay chart which had very inflated rhythmic and urban audience numbers. Do you honestly believe that "3", "Womanizer" and "Hold It Against Me" were bigger than Toxic in the US just because they hit No1 on the Hot100? Toxic would have been a multI week Hot100 no1, had it not been release in 2004 but after 2006 when digital sales finally had influence or before 2003 when physical singles sales existed. What do you mean by inflated numbers? The numbers are the official numbers. Unless you mean you don't think these urban songs deserved the amount of airplay they got, then that's an entirely different idea called an opinion. It's understandable to criticize the formula and weight of the Hot 100, but the chart is still reflecting what is more or less "popular" in the country, whether you like it or not. Millions of people use Spotify and other streaming services, so if urban music is what's "popular" at the moment, then so be it. At the end of the day, both streaming services and radio are about industry picks. The true issue with the charts is that the people aren't really determining what deserves to be a hit or not.
Communion Posted October 31, 2017 Posted October 31, 2017 (edited) 6 hours ago, Mediabase said: Are you serious? Toxic was massive in the US. No1 on pop radio for weeks and it helped the album sell. It was MASSIVE. That's what we are trying to say. That the Hot100 was not representative of what was popular. Especially in 2003 and 2004 it was basically identical to the airplay chart which had very inflated rhythmic and urban audience numbers. Do you honestly believe that "3", "Womanizer" and "Hold It Against Me" were bigger than Toxic in the US just because they hit No1 on the Hot100? Toxic would have been a multI week Hot100 no1, had it not been release in 2004 but after 2006 when digital sales finally had influence or before 2003 when physical singles sales existed. You keep accusing rhythmic and urban AI of being inflated, yet where's the evidence of this? Edited October 31, 2017 by Communion
alexanderao Posted October 31, 2017 Posted October 31, 2017 4 hours ago, Eóghan said: Why is radio doing Sam Smith so dirty? He's doing wonderful on Spotify and iTunes, can't say the same about most songs who got past 100 million AI this year. It's #16 on weekly Spotify and #21 today. Not terrible, but certainly not wonderful
Mediabase Posted October 31, 2017 Posted October 31, 2017 Oh my... Taylor is already at -600 today based on real time numbers. I can’t even...
ClashAndBurn Posted October 31, 2017 Posted October 31, 2017 2 hours ago, Communion said: You keep accusing rhythmic and urban AI of being inflated, yet where's the evidence of this? It's just ATRLers trying to downplay the success of artists of color. What else is new?
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