Rentboy Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 3 minutes ago, Divine said: His album has 45 songs Mystery solved. Another new trick for artists to consider when wanting to flatter their SPS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellocory Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 Whewwwww STILL 1.3M? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weed Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 7 minutes ago, Divine said: His album has 45 songs I know but I didn’t think it would actually work this well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellocory Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 54 minutes ago, Rentboy said: They know Adele is in another Galaxy. So they use Britney instead. More attainable. And Adele shattered every record. I think Nsyncs record was 2.2 million. Good point. Realistic sales are more like 500k. If you remove the fan exploitation tactics. Why are the Hive running in here trying to hide behind Adele and drag someone who is about to outsell Lemonade in 2-3 weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellocory Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 15 minutes ago, Blue Honeymoon said: Well, that is true. While Taylor is obviously super popular and a sales force, she uses every cheap trick and gimmick to sell albums. I mean... the magazines, the UPS deal, the no streaming/no individual tracks for sale on iTunes, the "buy as much albums and Taylor merchandise as you can" to get tour tickets... While Britney and Adele just put her albums for sale and promoted on some TV shows. Britney released her album at the PEAK of album sales 25, 1989, Reputation, and even Red doing numbers that are similar/destroyed that number (25) in the sales climates in which they were released is far more impressive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TattooedDreams Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 29 minutes ago, flowcoast said: 25 sold 1,49M first day Billboard reported 900k sorry 28 minutes ago, abrahamjmr said: Are you really thinking he's doing less than 400-500k? YES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Honeymoon Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 (edited) 14 minutes ago, hellocory said: Britney released her album at the PEAK of album sales 25, 1989, Reputation, and even Red doing numbers that are similar/destroyed that number (25) in the sales climates in which they were released is far more impressive Well... Before Speak Now's release, Britney was the only female ever to sell more than a million albums in the first week of release, so it wasn't that easy to achieve as you try to make it seem. Madonna, Mariah, Whitney, Christina, Beyoncé, Avril...no album of them reached the million sales in its first week. And my point still stands. No matter if it's not as impressive, but Britney (and Adele) got their records just by releasing an album and promotiong it normally, while Taylor used every single cheap trick and gimmick she and her team could think of to inflate record sales and make fans buy as much copies as possible. Edited November 15, 2017 by Blue Honeymoon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TattooedDreams Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 9 minutes ago, hellocory said: Britney released her album at the PEAK of album sales 25, 1989, Reputation, and even Red doing numbers that are similar/destroyed that number (25) in the sales climates in which they were released is far more impressive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flowcoast Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 1 minute ago, TattooedDreams said: Billboard reported 900k sorry YES 900K was only for Itunes. https://www.musicbusinessworldwide.com/adele-25-bonkers-facts-25s-mindblowing-first-week/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QueenofCopyPaste Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 The way the thread increased in posts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellocory Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Blue Honeymoon said: Well... Before Speak Now's release, Britney was the only female ever to sell more than a million albums in the first week of release, so it wasn't that easy to achieve as you try to make it seem. Madonna, Mariah, Whitney, Christina, Beyoncé, Avril...no album of them reached the million sales in its first week. And my point still stands. No matter if it's not as impressive, but Britney (and Adele) got their records just by releasing and album and promotiong it normally, while Taylor used every single cheap trick and gimmick she and her team could think of to inflate record sales and make fans buy as much copies as possible. And? Britney was the biggest star of her time, but Taylor is a bigger commercial force than Britney ever was in the USA. Taylor released an album (that she wanted people to buy) in the worst album climate ever. She outsold the #1 album this year in 3 days. She has more power than Britney ever did in the USA and her selling 1.3M in this climate is more impressive than Britney debuting with 1.3M in a year when 4 other albums sold 1M+ in a week Edited November 15, 2017 by hellocory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bxtch Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 2 minutes ago, Blue Honeymoon said: Well... Before Speak Now's release, Britney was the only female ever to sell more than a million albums in the first week of release, so it wasn't that easy to achieve as you try to make it seem. And my point still stands. No matter if it's not as impressive, but Britney (and Adele) got their records just by releasing and album and promotiong it normally, while Taylor used every single cheap trick and gimmick she and her team could think of to inflate record sales and make fans buy as much copies as possible. Just because she cares about the packaging of her albums (unlike pretty much the rest of pop stars) doesn't mean it's a cheap trick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QueenofCopyPaste Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 43 minutes ago, TattooedDreams said: NSYNC was 2.4M. A monster record and Adele managed to break it. They sold 1.1M first day though which neither taylor or Adele broke. Britney stans drag taylor so her fans just want revenge. Adele's 1st day is 1.5 million+ 900k from iTunes alone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nialler Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 The magazines the UPS deal the no streaming/no individual tracks for sale on iTunes the "buy as much albums and Taylor merchandise as you can" to get tour tickets the different posters I mean she was already getting desperate with 13 different sets of polaroids in 1989 but she's so insecure this era, she must be aware that the album has no hits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flowcoast Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Typically, the "Reputation" marketing/promo strategy has been already use as a "perfect case" of what a team/label have to do to keep an artist at the top. Very smart strategy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Honeymoon Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 2 minutes ago, Loveyoubxtch said: Just because she cares about the packaging of her albums (unlike pretty much the rest of pop stars) doesn't mean it's a cheap trick Oh please! The only reason she's releasing two different magazines is because she wants her fans to buy two copies of the same album. If she really cared just for the packaging, she would have made only one version of the magazine, or include both magazines in every copy of the album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rentboy Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Nialler said: The magazines the UPS deal the no streaming/no individual tracks for sale on iTunes the "buy as much albums and Taylor merchandise as you can" to get tour tickets the different posters I mean she was already getting desperate with 13 different sets of polaroids in 1989 but she's so insecure this era, she must be aware that the album has no hits Edited November 15, 2017 by Rentboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiagol88 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 People complaining about these sales when she's selling more that everyone's faves WW with first week's sales from the USA alone and without streaming points which everyone has Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flowcoast Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Just now, tiagol88 said: People complaining about these sales when she's selling more that everyone's faves WW with first week's sales from the USA alone and without streaming points which everyone has Not my fave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Honeymoon Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 1 minute ago, hellocory said: And? Britney was the biggest star of her time, but Taylor is a bigger commercial force than Britney ever was in the USA. Taylor released an album (that she wanted people to buy) in the worst album climate ever. She outsold the #1 album this year in 3 days. She has more power than Britney ever did in the USA and her selling 1.3M in this climate is more impressive than Britney debuting with 1.3M in a year when 4 other albums sold 1M+ in a week I'm not denying anything you said. Of course Taylor is incredible popular and a sales force, but she's using cheap tricks and gimmicks to practically force her stans to buy multiple copies of the same album. I get that she's competitive and smart, but she's just waaaaay too greedy and extra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rentboy Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 (edited) Some Swift fan has put reputation in this already, Cheek. Edited November 15, 2017 by Rentboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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tiagol88 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 (edited) 1 minute ago, flowcoast said: Not my fave Adele is the only exception. We all know Taylor will have the best selling female album since her last one excluding Adele. She's the 2nd biggest female act and there's no way to try and deny it. Reading this topic you'd think the woman is flopping with a Witness sized mess of an era. Edited November 15, 2017 by tiagol88 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
By the Water Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 (edited) People are still trying to paint these numbers as anything other than amazing People comparing her numbers to 25's to make them seem underwhelming as if 25 didn't destroy *NSYNC's record in a much worse market If selling less than 25 first week is underwhelming then poor every other album ever. Edited November 15, 2017 by By the Water Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjnono001 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 1 minute ago, Rentboy said: Shouldn't rep. be 15th? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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