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[Thickorita]

Just now, alexanderao said:

Well, this is in the Netherlands. Zara has had several huge smashes in Europe, and listeners there really seem to like her. So it makes sense for Spotify to put her high on regional playlists there, and also for her label to aggressively pursue further exposure.

True, but the same song on a playlist twice? And it's not just Europe, she is on the cover of TTH, Symphony is at #4 on it and she even has an album track on it. She is getting a lot of Spotify push.

[alexanderao]

6 minutes ago, Thickorita said:

True, but the same song on a playlist twice? And it's not just Europe, she is on the cover of TTH, Symphony is at #4 on it and she even has an album track on it. She is getting a lot of Spotify push.

I mean, her label pushed Lush Life so hard that it cracked the U.S. top 30.  Spotify is definitely where their focus has been

[NumbSoul]

Humble, Loyalty and The Cure  

[GokuRed]

DNA is huge

 

Two T5s is insane.

[Tsuko]

7 hours ago, alexanderao said:

Well, this is in the Netherlands. Zara has had several huge smashes in Europe, and listeners there really seem to like her. So it makes sense for Spotify to put her high on regional playlists there, and also for her label to aggressively pursue further exposure.

 

But yeah, this is definitely excessive.  

Sorry, but you do realise it happened the other way around? The Spotify payola came FIRST, the hit songs afterwards.

 

Zara having the same song twice at the top of a playlist doesn't surprise me to be quite honest. This is what her entire career has been.

 

Even in the US she gets significant payola. Don't you remember Lush Life being top 50 on US Spotify for about 6 months because it was on SO MANY playlists? People thought it was a sign that it would be a huge hit, but really it was just that it was on so many playlists that there'd obviously be a few hundred thousand people who wouldn't manage/bother to skip it in time even if they didn't want to listen to it.

 

She's not a pop star who millions of people in Europe independently discovered and grew to love, the real story is that her songs get ENORMOUS promotion and it's pretty difficult to avoid. And really she might get chart hits, but I can't see how they're possibley making money off her because this amount of promotion must cost a lot.

 

I'm also genuinely worrying how long this is going to last. Is she going to get huge Spotify payola FOREVER (and therefore possibly having a pop career that lasts as long as Spotify remains successful, which could be a long time). Or will her record company at one point chill out a bit and treat her like a normal artist?

[Hometown]

7 minutes ago, Tsuko said:

Sorry, but you do realise it happened the other way around? The Spotify payola came FIRST, the hit songs afterwards.

 

Zara having the same song twice at the top of a playlist doesn't surprise me to be quite honest. This is what her entire career has been.

Expose ha!! EXPOSE HA!!!!!!

[alexanderao]

10 minutes ago, Tsuko said:

Sorry, but you do realise it happened the other way around? The Spotify payola came FIRST, the hit songs afterwards.

 

Zara having the same song twice at the top of a playlist doesn't surprise me to be quite honest. This is what her entire career has been.

 

Even in the US she gets significant payola. Don't you remember Lush Life being top 50 on US Spotify for about 6 months because it was on SO MANY playlists? People thought it was a sign that it would be a huge hit, but really it was just that it was on so many playlists that there'd obviously be a few hundred thousand people who wouldn't manage/bother to skip it in time even if they didn't want to listen to it.

 

She's not a pop star who millions of people in Europe independently discovered and grew to love, the real story is that her songs get ENORMOUS promotion and it's pretty difficult to avoid. And really she might get chart hits, but I can't see how they're possibley making money off her because this amount of promotion must cost a lot.

 

I'm also genuinely worrying how long this is going to last. Is she going to get huge Spotify payola FOREVER (and therefore possibly having a pop career that lasts as long as Spotify remains successful, which could be a long time). Or will her record company at one point chill out a bit and treat her like a normal artist?

 

3 minutes ago, Hometown said:

Expose ha!! EXPOSE HA!!!!!!

Clearly, I came off as a representative from Zara's record label desperately trying to defend the playlist promo that was being discussed. I didn't mean to come across that way. 

 

All I was trying to say was that because she's big in Europe now (I never talked about how she got big), big promo on Spotify for her is justified–though not to the extent of having carbon copies of a song on the same playlist. 

 

Of course I remember the massive promo Lush Life got on Spotify here, and I even mentioned it several posts back. I don't mean to sound arrogant, but I knew that her promo here wouldn't make a difference with regards to its hit potential. 

 

I'm not trying to assign a degree of morality to the screenshot that was posted...

[brianc33710]

3 hours ago, alexanderao said:

 

Clearly, I came off as a representative from Zara's record label desperately trying to defend the playlist promo that was being discussed. I didn't mean to come across that way. 

 

All I was trying to say was that because she's big in Europe now (I never talked about how she got big), big promo on Spotify for her is justified–though not to the extent of having carbon copies of a song on the same playlist. 

 

Of course I remember the massive promo Lush Life got on Spotify here, and I even mentioned it several posts back. I don't mean to sound arrogant, but I knew that her promo here wouldn't make a difference with regards to its hit potential. 

 

I'm not trying to assign a degree of morality to the screenshot that was posted...

[Navyofbadgals]

The Cure is out of top 50 US

Lust For Life debuts just in the top 50 

[Starkboy]

The Cure

#13 Taiwan (+2)
#19 Brazil (-6)
#38 Poland (-6)

#46 Singapore (+3)

#49 Australia (+5)
#51 United States (-2)
#51 Worldwide (+3)

#55 Canada (-4)
#56 Sweden (-1)
#56 Finland (=)

#59 Ireland (+9)
#60 Switzerland (=)

#60 Norway (+3)

#60 United Kingdom (+9)
#62 Italy (-1)
#62 Philippines (-1)

#63 Portugal (-3)

#63 Indonesia (+9)
#65 New Zealand (+10)

#66 Belgium (-1)
#68 Turkey (-6)
#68 Malaysia (-3)
#97 Austria (-20)
#97 Mexico (-2)
#103 Denmark (-8)
#113 Spain (-5)
#148 Argentina (-18)
NC Germany (OUT)
NC France 
NC Netherlands

 

 

WW

53. Lust for Life (with The Weeknd) by Lana Del Rey | 1,277,652

78. There's Nothing Holdin' Me Back by Shawn Mendes | 957,845

95. Hard Times by Paramore | 818,995 (+70)

 

USA

49. Lust for Life (with The Weeknd) by Lana Del Rey | 461,713

83. Hard Times by Paramore | 306,197 (+76)

125. There's Nothing Holdin' Me Back by Shawn Mendes | 235,724

[Qudron]

Couldn't it just be a mistake? Does the 'you already have this song on your playlist' box pop up if the song is added from both single and album version? Lush life and Never forget you have wayyyy too many streams considering their hit size

[Marco_g2]

15 hours ago, Starkboy said:

 

dddd new level of payola

Nnnnn i saw this too,

 

Symphony needs it to finish Boef, Lil Kleine and Broederliefde (coming tomorrow)

Ugh The Netherlands is getting flooded by both inernational and national rap acts  

[blackbeatxx]

havent really been around lately, but WOW at Kendrick´s much deserved streaming power!!

literally CRUSHING the old daily record on spotify in US with 4 mill for HUMBLE., is the biggest thing since Hello did 2,75 million in october 2015 (regarding how much spotify has grown ever since).

with the massive stats for both J Cole and Kendrick (who´ll surely hold up better tho) i have great hopes for rap

[Tsuko]

3 hours ago, Qudron said:

Couldn't it just be a mistake?

It's obviously intentional. This is Zara Larsson we're talking about lol.

[Hometown]

21 hours ago, Starkboy said:

 

dddd new level of payola

This is so sad. I'll pray for her career tbh

[whatyouwant_]

sad ? LOL it's not her fault if your fave's manager/label can't afford this. They're doing what needs to establish her as a streaming force. Her album is flopping in pure sales but at the end of the day streams are giving her life on the charts. Her album will be GOLD in the US real soon and platinum in the long run... there's no shame on it. i smell some jealousy as some fave can't even enter or stay more than 2 weeks on TTH.. 

[alexanderao]

04/21/2017

T50 archive pts. 1, 2, 3, 4, & 5

Top 200 with play counts

 

1. HUMBLE. (3,139,385) *21 days at #1*

2. DNA. (2,528,891) *Currently at peak*
3. ELEMENT. (1,640,218) *Currently at peak*
4. Mask Off (+1) (1,598,232)

5. LOYALTY. (-1) (1,536,302)

6. LOVE. (1,441,051)

7. XO TOUR Llif3 (1,433,202)

8. XXX. (1,223,086)

9. YAH. (1,157,691)

10. Passionfruit (+2) (1,129,319)

 

11. iSpy (+2) (1,109,297)

12. Despacito - Remix (+6) (1,084,171) *New peak (3 in a row)*

13. FEEL. (-3) (1,063,869)

14. That's What I Like (+1) (1,059,756)

15. Shape Of You (+1) (1,057,382)

16. PRIDE. (-5) (1,044,944)

17. LUST. (-3) (983,943)

18. Congratulations (+2) (954,764)

19. Location (942,075)

20. Portland (+1) (904,180)

 

21. Stay (+2) (893,481)

22. Tunnel Vision (+3) (884,755)

23. Something Just Like This (+1) (867,471)

24. FEAR. (-7) (832,907)

25. GOD. (-3) (817,705)

26. It Ain't Me (+2) (783,660)

27. DUCKWORTH. (-1) (764,369)

28. Slide (+1) (719,906)

29. BLOOD. (-2) (717,036)

30. Issues (716,662)

 

31. Bounce Back (678,080)

32. Body Like A Back Road (649,587)

33. T-Shirt (+1) (643,170)

34. Goosebumps (+2) (623,720)

35. Look At Me! (615,616)

36. Bad And Boujee (+1) (607,138)

37. Sign Of The Times (-4) (594,462)

38. Paris (570,822)

39. Gyalchester (569,151)

40. Fake Love (556,639)

 

41. Selfish (545,028)

42. Swang (539,472)

43. Now Or Never (518,745)

44. Drowning (+4) (508,145) *New peak*
45. Swalla (-1) (502,671)

46. Believer (-1) (496,098)

47. Redbone (489,990)

48. The One (-2) (483,448)

49. Lana Del Rey & The Weeknd - Lust For Life (DEBUT) (461,713)

50. Unforgettable (450,118) *Reached a new peak yesterday (its 1st day in the top 50)* *Currently at peak*

 

Dropouts

51. The Cure (-2) (440,893) *Reached a new peak yesterday (its 1st day in the top 50)*

 

Total plays of the Top 10:

16,827,377 (-761,555 from yesterday)

 

Total plays of the Top 50:

46,133,523 (-1,128,108 from yesterday)

 

Total plays of the Top 100:

63,242,024 (-903,010 from yesterday)

 

Total plays of the Top 200:

84,934,037 (-457,627 from yesterday)

 

Songs above 200,000 plays:

167 (+6 from yesterday)

 

Songs above 300,000 plays:

86 (+2 from yesterday)

[Qudron]

Hey guys I found this app that lets you see your most played artists and songs on Spotify - http://obscurifymusic.com/#/

 

[mowino]

3M in US is the new 2M these days  

[Hector]

Pandora:

 

05 Mask Off +5

06 HUMBLE. +31

09 Passionfruit +14

25 Sign Of The Times DEBUT with 3 million spins

28 At My Best +8

39 Still Got Time +11

58 Now Or Never DEBUT

62 Good Life (G-Eazy & Kehlani) DEBUT with 1.6 million spins

 

https://www.nextbigsound.com/charts/top-spins

[alexanderao]

HDD's on-demand chart updated, and they have DAMN. at 343.3M for the tracking week. Not too shabby!

[alexanderao]

2 minutes ago, DangerousSwiftie said:

Drake still has the record though, right?

Yes. More Life did 385M first week

[Jacob.23]

HUMBLE - 44,003,017

DNA - 40,674,540

ELEMENT -30,561,037

LOYALTY - 28,719,236

LOVE - 26,982,663

YAH - 24,090,936

FEEL -22,112,124

XXX - 21,705,164

PRIDE - 21,139,811

LUST - 19,697,455

 

- DNA  

-ELEMENT did more streams than passionfruit did in it's first week. It could debut top ten if this week wasn't so competitive.

- I thought HUMBLE would have slightly more streams. 

 

 

[QueenofCopyPaste]

1 hour ago, Jacob.23 said:

HUMBLE - 44,003,017

DNA - 40,674,540

ELEMENT -30,561,037

LOYALTY - 28,719,236

LOVE - 26,982,663

YAH - 24,090,936

FEEL -22,112,124

XXX - 21,705,164

PRIDE - 21,139,811

LUST - 19,697,455

 

- DNA  

-ELEMENT did more streams than passionfruit did in it's first week. It could debut top ten if this week wasn't so competitive.

- I thought HUMBLE would have slightly more streams. 

 

 

Is this just from Spotify only?

[alexanderao]

13 minutes ago, J-boy said:

Is this just from Spotify only?

No, those numbers are from the HDD chart