charts discussion Streaming Discussion | Spotify, YouTube, Apple Music, etc.

[brianc33710]

Country went to 20/20 when the chart was reduced to 60 positions in 2001. 15/20 didn't come around until 2003. I can't edit what I wrote again, so I'm clearing that up here. Also, I wonder if, or more likely when, BB starts using the AC and HAC 3 tiered RC policy on Alternative, AAA, and Active/Mainstream Rock.

[dangerousbutera]

Sorry to be off topic but, how high will The Cure get on Spotify? Gaga isn't a big force on Spotify but the song is already #1 in like 50 countries on iTunes so surely it will do quite well on Spotify? 

[abrahamjmr]

2 hours ago, dangerousbutera said:

Sorry to be off topic but, how high will The Cure get on Spotify? Gaga isn't a big force on Spotify but the song is already #1 in like 50 countries on iTunes so surely it will do quite well on Spotify? 

She'll probably debut in the top 30 lower region. 

[Ribs]

KDOT destroying other certain rapper so effortlessly  

TALENT did not just won, it SLAYED 

[Jacob.23]

US YOUTUBE (Friday 4/14)

1

+4

Kendrick Lamar - HUMBLE.

2,743,404

+736,458

2	=	KYLE - iSpy (feat. Lil Yachty)	2,710,697	+333,505
3	-2	Ed Sheeran - Shape of You	2,698,461	+11,559
4	=	Bruno Mars - That's What I Like	2,498,255	+359,891
5	+1	Future - Mask Off [Explicit]	2,266,959	+541,055
6	-3	Lil Uzi Vert - XO TOUR Llif3	2,246,045	+48,159
7	=	Rae Sremmurd - Swang	1,902,473	+211,922
8	+1	Ayo & Teo - Rolex	1,763,048	+249,492
9	NEW	Kodak Black - Tunnel Vision	1,668,176
10	=	Post Malone - Congratulations (feat. Quavo)	1,553,237	+125,476
11	NEW	Unknown Artist - Unknown Title	1,467,569
12	-1	XXXTentacion - Look At Me!	1,425,973	+117,252
13	=	Migos - Bad and Boujee (feat. Lil Uzi Vert)	1,128,264	+167,406
14	-2	Migos - T-Shirt	1,100,743	-169,711
15	NEW	Logic - Black SpiderMan	1,011,810
16	=	Zay Hilfigerrr - Juju On That Beat (TZ Anthem)	977,730	+175,890
17	-3	Luis Fonsi - Despacito (feat. Daddy Yankee)	907,361	+66,572
18	-3	The Chainsmokers - Closer (feat. Halsey)	852,441	+12,965
19	NEW	Chris Brown - Privacy [Explicit]	822,120
20	-1	Bruno Mars - 24K Magic	816,995	+110,039

 

Kendrick got 6.8 M streams from just spotify and youtube. He probably got 11+M with other services added (AM, pandora, soundcloud).

 

I wonder who number 11 is. My guess is goosebumps by Travis Scott, but I would be surprised if his views were that local.

 

 

 

[popmusic]

Hmm, The Cure still not on YouTube. It looks like they made windowing against transfer of value but forgot about register track in content id - there;s plenty fan-uploaded videos...

[Communion]

19 hours ago, UNNAMI said:

so by your logic, if official single song is getting 40 AI, 20k sales and 5m streaming and 10 Kendrick Lamar songs are getting better numbers but only HUMBLE. is official single, so the chart should look

 

1. humble

2. "official single song" by otther artist

 

not

 

1. humble

2-11 kendrick songs

12  "official single song" by otther artist

 

?

Right?? It makes no sense.

[Rico Shameless v2]

Hopefully Kendrick continues being the only one out of Cole & Drake to have a real era. ELEMENT., LOYALTY. and LOVE. are all hits.  

[alexanderao]

57 minutes ago, Jacob.23 said:

US YOUTUBE (Friday 4/14)

1

+4

Kendrick Lamar - HUMBLE.

2,743,404

+736,458

2	=	KYLE - iSpy (feat. Lil Yachty)	2,710,697	+333,505
3	-2	Ed Sheeran - Shape of You	2,698,461	+11,559
4	=	Bruno Mars - That's What I Like	2,498,255	+359,891
5	+1	Future - Mask Off [Explicit]	2,266,959	+541,055
6	-3	Lil Uzi Vert - XO TOUR Llif3	2,246,045	+48,159
7	=	Rae Sremmurd - Swang	1,902,473	+211,922
8	+1	Ayo & Teo - Rolex	1,763,048	+249,492
9	NEW	Kodak Black - Tunnel Vision	1,668,176
10	=	Post Malone - Congratulations (feat. Quavo)	1,553,237	+125,476
11	NEW	Unknown Artist - Unknown Title	1,467,569
12	-1	XXXTentacion - Look At Me!	1,425,973	+117,252
13	=	Migos - Bad and Boujee (feat. Lil Uzi Vert)	1,128,264	+167,406
14	-2	Migos - T-Shirt	1,100,743	-169,711
15	NEW	Logic - Black SpiderMan	1,011,810
16	=	Zay Hilfigerrr - Juju On That Beat (TZ Anthem)	977,730	+175,890
17	-3	Luis Fonsi - Despacito (feat. Daddy Yankee)	907,361	+66,572
18	-3	The Chainsmokers - Closer (feat. Halsey)	852,441	+12,965
19	NEW	Chris Brown - Privacy [Explicit]	822,120
20	-1	Bruno Mars - 24K Magic	816,995	+110,039

 

Kendrick got 6.8 M streams from just spotify and youtube. He probably got 11+M with other services added (AM, pandora, soundcloud).

 

I wonder who number 11 is. My guess is goosebumps by Travis Scott, but I would be surprised if his views were that local.

 

 

 

It's Peek A Boo (the new single by Yachty featuring Migos)

[Cz!]

Kendrick.

 

[UNNAMI]

13 hours ago, popmusic said:

14 hours ago, brianc33616 said:

Album tracks would need to reach a minimum airplay threshold that only properly promoted singles will reach, say maybe 5 M AI (maybe a little more) for a week in airplay on all tracked radio stations. This would split apart the "reals" from the "fakes," allowing songs like Let It Go, which was promoted and getting airplay at AC and HAC (but performed poorly overall at radio), from the album cuts played just a few times during a tracking week. And if a non-promoted track does barely break that threshold for one week, but not the next, it wouldn't rechart until it received the minimum requirements for airplay. And I have no idea why those sentences are highlighted, since I am writing these rules on my phone where I can't copy/paste anything.

 

so again, when track is streamed 3m daily, but has not reached 5M AI, so then shouldn't be charted? even throug 3m daily would be record number streaming, but still no charting?

 

I don't thnk there should be any "you can chart IF" no ifs at all. we have ifs in history and that messed a lot - first example: no doubt's don't speak which reached 16 weeks at #1 radio, but didn't chart at hot 100 because no physical release of single.

 

you idea with airplay AI would work like that - song with record breaking streaming or sales but without airplay would be charting, and that would be mess.

[Rico Shameless v2]

I think if an album cut amasses something like 15-20m in a week and can chart should. Plus cuts would rarely if ever hit any kind of AI, let alone 5m, after the first couple days. So would be kind of pointless to implement that, skewing the idea the H100 is a popular songs chart, when unsolicited airplay is rare if you aren't Drake/Bey.

[Thickorita]

It's the 100 most popular songs in the country, not the 100 most popular singles 

If most of them tend to be by one artist, then let them be 

[Ferret]

On 12/4/2017 at 7:04 PM, Oxygen said:

Features are normally listed on an artists profile as well, but for some reason Rihanna didnt list them under her name  

TBH, she does not need to rely on those hits, she has her own.

[brianc33710]

10 hours ago, UNNAMI said:

so again, when track is streamed 3m daily, but has not reached 5M AI, so then shouldn't be charted? even throug 3m daily would be record number streaming, but still no charting?

 

I don't thnk there should be any "you can chart IF" no ifs at all. we have ifs in history and that messed a lot - first example: no doubt's don't speak which reached 16 weeks at #1 radio, but didn't chart at hot 100 because no physical release of single.

 

you idea with airplay AI would work like that - song with record breaking streaming or sales but without airplay would be charting, and that would be mess.

If it's not a promoted song radio is giving any airplay, then it's an album cut, not a single. What will start happening, is that they will start releasing these albums with downloads and streaming, on an increasingly regular basis, but the labels Will only promote one or two songs to radio. So, once or twice a month one artist will take over 20% of the Hot 100. Then this will annoy everyone else as much as it does me now, especially when its by artists you don't like. Requiring a minimal amount/threshold of airplay for a song to chart isn't asking for much.

 

As for Don't Speak, physical single sales were very strong in 1996-7. Macarena sold over 4 M copies; OSD, The Crossroads, and California Love/How Do You Want It (double sided single) all sold 2-2.5 M. Many others sold over one million singles. Don't Speak would've probably just barely cracked the Top Ten.

 

I said DS would've reached a little higher than that yesterday before remembering how many big selling singles, 1.5+ M, were on the Hot 100 1995-7. Hootie & The Blowfish had a 15XP selling album that produced four very airplay-heavy hit songs (Top Two on HRS). The band released singles, but because they couldn't get any one single close to Gold, their highest charting hit only hit #6. So, without any sales at all, Don't Speak would've been borderline for just the Top Ten. The one song from Tragic Kingdom that was released as a single, either Just A Girl or Spiderwebs (I've forgotten which after 20+ years) stalled out in the 20s.

[omrimayo]

The Cure is not in the top 50 in the UK, US or WW Spotify. :|

Edited April 17, 2017 by omrimayo

[Monster Megamind]

Just now, omrimayo said:

The Cure is not in the top 50 in the UK, US or WW Spotify. :|

Heavy playlisting a must nowadays... 

[omrimayo]

Just now, Monster Megamind said:

Heavy playlisting a must nowadays... 

I know and this needs top happen Soon, She and the song really deserve this!

[iHype.]

Worldwide:

71. The Cure (901,447)

 

Countries w/ large streaming:

Brazil - #5

Canada - #76

Sweden - #89

Mexico - #90

UK - #90

US - #116

Australia - #176

France - #198

New Zealand - #200

[QueenofCopyPaste]

 

YouTube United States Daily Chart - 2017/04/15

 

1	=	Kendrick Lamar - HUMBLE.	3,033,622	+290,218
2	=	KYLE - iSpy (feat. Lil Yachty)	2,481,269	-229,428

3	+1	Bruno Mars - That's What I Like	2,431,909	-66,346
4	-1	Ed Sheeran - Shape of You	2,413,516	-284,945
5	+1	Lil Uzi Vert - XO TOUR Llif3	2,236,266	-9,779

 

Oh Kendrick

[omrimayo]

13 minutes ago, Jeiboy said:

 

YouTube United States Daily Chart - 2017/04/15

 

1	=	Kendrick Lamar - HUMBLE.	3,033,622	+290,218
2	=	KYLE - iSpy (feat. Lil Yachty)	2,481,269	-229,428

3	+1	Bruno Mars - That's What I Like	2,431,909	-66,346
4	-1	Ed Sheeran - Shape of You	2,413,516	-284,945
5	+1	Lil Uzi Vert - XO TOUR Llif3	2,236,266	-9,779

 

Oh Kendrick

With 3M Spotify as an average and a lot of AM streams like I guess he's getting... He can do 60M plus streams this week, should be enough for him?

[Ribs]

1   HUMBLE. by Kendrick Lamar    5,009,823
  

2   Shape of You by Ed Sheeran    5,004,442

 

Mess SO(T)Y is coming again

Edited April 17, 2017 by Ribs

[QueenofCopyPaste]

4 minutes ago, Ribs said:

1   HUMBLE. by Kendrick Lamar    5,009,823
  

2   Shape of You by Ed Sheeran    5,004,442

 

Mess SO(T)Y is coming again

is this WW Spotify?

[NumbSoul]

Welp, there goes a high debut for The Cure...

Hopefully it will start rising now! They need to add it to TTH!

[alexanderao]

Humble just pulled 2.88M on a Sunday.