official chart Billboard's Top 100 Artists Of The 21st Century - Taylor #1

[Eternal220]

Taylor, Rihanna, Beyonce and Adele 

Truly the big 4 females of the 21st century.

 

 

[Eternium]

9 hours ago, hallucinate said:

morgan wallen being top 15 doesn't make sense to me 

he became popular 2 years ago and he's already that high?

He's zooming past that. He is popular in the streaming era and he's jamming his albums full of 30+ songs, which gives them an unfair advantage on our album charts. Dangerous: The Double Album is already #2 all-time in the U.S. and One Thing At A Time is approaching the top 20. If he gets another two successful albums, he could end up right above Drake.

9 hours ago, Klein said:

75% of the top 20 is from the late physical/digital era though. 

That's because they experienced parts of the streaming era. Morgan Wallen will surpass Rihanna next year despite only having a handful of crossover hits. Streaming is annihilating the sales era in charting.

9 hours ago, JennyWayne said:

Yup streaming era made longevity on the charts a lot more easy. It's why Post and Morgan Wallen are so high despite being relative newcomers

 

For that reason I assume Gaga wil surpass Katy on the next update - since the latter only gains points from Teenage Dream charting on the BB200 (and The Fame is charting similar if not higher every week) + Gaga will have DWAS & LG7 to rack up some extra points

Gaga will surpass Katy before the end of March, this rate.

9 hours ago, extra_ordinary said:

How is Post Malone already no 4?

He took all of his singles and put them on a compilation album. Both he and The Weeknd did it. Post Malone is only pulling in 16M streams daily, but since he threw all of his singles on one compilation, it's now pulling 7M+ daily global Spotify streams. His album never leaves the top 40 and pulls at least 160 points a week.
 

For comparison's sake, Ariana has not done that. So even though Ariana has a bunch of albums pulling 3M+ daily global streams on Spotify, it isn't enough to chart. Ariana's pulling in 29M streams a day but getting 0 points from that. 
 

It's part of why Billboard can not be used solely to compare who is bigger since there are huge chart hacks like that.

9 hours ago, Green said:

Adele #12 with just four albums 

 

I'm guessing this one is based on Billboard charts (albums and singles combined) right?

Yes. It is based directly on chart placement and not numbers, so Adele is ****** over hard. Her 3.3M week at #1 on the Billboard 200 counts for as many points as a 90k week at #1. Billboard doesn't capture the magnitude of her success.

9 hours ago, a_d_22 said:

Interesting what happens when things are factual and not based on Twitter vibes

I know this is an attempt at Beyonce shade, but the Swifties are dropping the ball here. Beyonce (and Destiny's Child, Avril Lavigne, Jessica Simpson, Celine Dion and Alicia Keys) should have their numbers significantly reduced because their airplay stats were paid for by their record labels, inflating their rankings. 

9 hours ago, DevilsRollTheDice said:

The only "created" list is the subjective editorial, sis 

 

This is just objective stats. 

Billboard is not and never has been objective. Let's not lie.

9 hours ago, bringdanoize said:

streaming era's albums have an advantage because Billboard counts points for placement on BB200 artists chart. 
for example, Adele sold 3.3 million in a week, but she only received points for the placement, so she got equal amount points as the album which sold 90k in streaming era and was also #1. 
so, she received points only one time for the first place, but Post Malone who let's say sold 3.3 million in half of the year got more points because every week's placement counted. they both sold the same amount except Adele got points only for one week and he got them for 30 weeks or more.

i know it doesn't make sense but it is what it is.

Let them know, sis.  

9 hours ago, Green said:

Biggest females of the 21st Century:

Billboard measures the best charting acts, not the biggest. It is NOT the same thing.

[Yes, AND]

4 hours ago, jdanton2 said:

Bruno #9 with only 4 albums.

But its not only his albums, any collabs like DWAS also count for him, which obviously gave him a massive boost

[Eternium]

5 hours ago, Fitzswiftie said:

Mind you Beyoncé isn't even the biggest "vibes" or "sneak" from the OG top ten. Britney #6 but behind Carrie Underwood at #34 on "real" list. 

I hope you manage to get that GED, sis. Keep at it in school.

 

Anyway, Billboard doesn't measure success. RIAA does and here's their ranking:

1. Taylor Swift - 57M (Outdated)

2. Britney Spears - 38.5M (Outdated)

3. Beyonce - 37M (Up to Date)

4. The Dixie Chicks - 33M (Outdated)

5. Adele - 28M (Outdated)

6. Rihanna - 28M (Outdated?)

7. Carrie Underwood - 22.5M (Up to Date)

8. Alicia Keys - 20M (Up to Date)

9. Norah Jones - 19.5M (Up to Date)

10. Katy Perry - 19M (Up to Date)

 

Y'all keep thinking Billboard listicles are everything and it's so embarrassing. They have Dangerous: The Double Album as the second biggest album ever here.

5 hours ago, l3disko said:

I'm guessing all of her poorly charting songs hindered her overall score.

 

She did surprisingly badly chart-wise in the early 2000s, didn't get her first 2000s #1 until 2008, did well for the next 3 years and has been spinning in her living-room ever since.

 

She was radiobanned by Clear Channel for 3 years. Meanwhile, Columbia, Epic and certain UMG artists were paying for airplay. At the time, airplay determined chart success on the Hot 100 so it was impossible for her to even get above #40.

 

This is also part of why Billboard's lists will never hold any weight - they don't go back up and update numbers when people get caught cheating.

4 hours ago, Feanor said:

The fumes in this thread.

 

It's a cute list, but wbk this already. What Billboard needs to do is update their all-time list.

It's not necessary because this list will be the all-time list in the next 5 years. Morgan Wallen just needs to more albums and two more tours at the rate he's going and he'll be above MJ unless Billboard starts weighing things really heavily.

4 hours ago, Green said:

It's weird to see Britney lower than Carrie Underwood but it's based on chart data so it's 100% objective

The lack of chart education on ATRL is genuinely embarrassing. How can a component chart ever be 100% objective? Girl  

3 hours ago, The Music Industry said:

Interesting how the list changes when it's based on facts instead of the opinions of a few 

You realize that just a few people make up the rules and criteria for the charts, right? This is a component chart and not just an amalgamation of numbers. Stay in school, sister.

5 hours ago, UnusualBoy said:

I don't disagree with Taylor #1 but Britney below the likes of some of these people is  

Her time period was significantly different. It's part of why Billboard has lost a ton of their respect - they didn't handle the 2000s well at all and when they tried to expand into other markets (South Korea), it was a huge mess.

[Green]

39 minutes ago, Eternium said:

He's zooming past that. He is popular in the streaming era and he's jamming his albums full of 30+ songs, which gives them an unfair advantage on our album charts. Dangerous: The Double Album is already #2 all-time in the U.S. and One Thing At A Time is approaching the top 20. If he gets another two successful albums, he could end up right above Drake.

That's because they experienced parts of the streaming era. Morgan Wallen will surpass Rihanna next year despite only having a handful of crossover hits. Streaming is annihilating the sales era in charting.

Gaga will surpass Katy before the end of March, this rate.

He took all of his singles and put them on a compilation album. Both he and The Weeknd did it. Post Malone is only pulling in 16M streams daily, but since he threw all of his singles on one compilation, it's now pulling 7M+ daily global Spotify streams. His album never leaves the top 40 and pulls at least 160 points a week.
 

For comparison's sake, Ariana has not done that. So even though Ariana has a bunch of albums pulling 3M+ daily global streams on Spotify, it isn't enough to chart. Ariana's pulling in 29M streams a day but getting 0 points from that. 
 

It's part of why Billboard can not be used solely to compare who is bigger since there are huge chart hacks like that.

Yes. It is based directly on chart placement and not numbers, so Adele is ****** over hard. Her 3.3M week at #1 on the Billboard 200 counts for as many points as a 90k week at #1. Billboard doesn't capture the magnitude of her success.

I know this is an attempt at Beyonce shade, but the Swifties are dropping the ball here. Beyonce (and Destiny's Child, Avril Lavigne, Jessica Simpson, Celine Dion and Alicia Keys) should have their numbers significantly reduced because their airplay stats were paid for by their record labels, inflating their rankings. 

Billboard is not and never has been objective. Let's not lie.

Let them know, sis.  

Billboard measures the best charting acts, not the biggest. It is NOT the same thing.

 

Yeah I agree, I mean this decade end list it's a mess:

 

https://www.billboard.com/charts/decade-end/billboard-200/

 

3. Ed Sheeran - Divide 5x Platinum

 

16. Bruno Mars - 24k Magic

 

19. Adele - 25  11x Platinum (eligible for 13x Platinum)

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Yes, AND]

38 minutes ago, Zendayababes said:

The numbers are factual but the methodology certainly isn't. How did they weigh points? Cuz there's no way in hell Usher would be lower than Post Malone or that jailbird Hillbilly. 

Why not ? Usher had limited success on the hot 100 and 1 big album in the 00s

[Yes, AND]

Not the radio ban nnnnn

[Yes, AND]

20 minutes ago, Eternium said:

 

Gaga will surpass Katy before the end of March, this rate.

 

The list will not be remade at the end of March so its irrelevant. Maybe in 2050 when another 25 years have elapsed. 

[Eternium]

43 minutes ago, Green said:

 

Yeah I agree, I mean this decade end list it's a mess:

 

https://www.billboard.com/charts/decade-end/billboard-200/

 

3. Ed Sheeran - Divide 5x Platinum

 

16. Bruno Mars - 24k Magic

 

19. Adele - 25  11x Platinum (eligible for 13x Platinum)

 

 

Their all-time chart is just as stupid. The second biggest album ever in the U.S., Their Greatest Hits: 1971-1975 by The Eagles, didn't even make the top 200  

 

And the LZ album rankings are a MESS. 
#109. Crash My Party by Luke Bryan - 4x Platinum
#146. Led Zeppelin II - 12x Platinum
#157. Missundaztood by P!nk - 5x Platinum
#185. Houses of the Holy - 11x Platinum
#186. Up All Night by One Direction - 3x Platinum
#189. Pure Heroine by Lorde - 3x Platinum

#194. Led Zeppelin IV - 24x Platinum

 

They put no effort into their charts.

42 minutes ago, Yes, AND said:

Why not ? Usher had limited success on the hot 100 and 1 big album in the 00s

Would love to see you explain how U Got It Bad, U Remind Me, Burn, Confessions, U Don't Have To Call, Confession Part II, My Boo, Caught Up, Love In This Club, Love In This Club and DJ Got Us Falling In Love were limited successes  

 

You are literally talking out of your ass. And kii at his 5x Platinum album and 3x Platinum album not being big albums.

39 minutes ago, Yes, AND said:

Not the radio ban nnnnn

And now you're rewriting history. Weird

37 minutes ago, Yes, AND said:

The list will not be remade at the end of March so its irrelevant. Maybe in 2050 when another 25 years have elapsed. 

The list is already outdated. It will be remade and Katy will gain no points and fall quickly. Time isn't going to stop just because Katy can't chart anymore  

[LosingHimWasBlue]

Based on number..

not vibe 

 

Oh Taylor, the greatest that you are 

[Sabrina Carpenter]

finally a list based on something that can be measured and not just twitter vibes, no wonder a certain fanbase is having a meltdown 

[Yes, AND]

56 minutes ago, Eternium said:

Their all-time chart is just as stupid. The second biggest album ever in the U.S., Their Greatest Hits: 1971-1975 by The Eagles, didn't even make the top 200  

 

And the LZ album rankings are a MESS. 
#109. Crash My Party by Luke Bryan - 4x Platinum
#146. Led Zeppelin II - 12x Platinum
#157. Missundaztood by P!nk - 5x Platinum
#185. Houses of the Holy - 11x Platinum
#186. Up All Night by One Direction - 3x Platinum
#189. Pure Heroine by Lorde - 3x Platinum

#194. Led Zeppelin IV - 24x Platinum

 

They put no effort into their charts.

Would love to see you explain how U Got It Bad, U Remind Me, Burn, Confessions, U Don't Have To Call, Confession Part II, My Boo, Caught Up, Love In This Club, Love In This Club and DJ Got Us Falling In Love were limited successes  

 

You are literally talking out of your ass. And kii at his 5x Platinum album and 3x Platinum album not being big albums.

And now you're rewriting history. Weird

The list is already outdated. It will be remade and Katy will gain no points and fall quickly. Time isn't going to stop just because Katy can't chart anymore  

Gurl just accept that Britney is way down the list and go. Your copium is laughable to say the least. This list is for the years 2000 to 2024 and it will never be outdated because it captures a particular timeframe and will be that for eternity. Accept it. 

 

Congrats again to the top 5 ladies Taylor, Rihanna, Bey, Adele and Katy. 

[dumbsparce]

Suddenly I'm an @Eternium stan 

[elincomprendid]

2 hours ago, Eternium said:

He took all of his singles and put them on a compilation album. Both he and The Weeknd did it. Post Malone is only pulling in 16M streams daily, but since he threw all of his singles on one compilation, it's now pulling 7M+ daily global Spotify streams. His album never leaves the top 40 and pulls at least 160 points a week.

Girl post performance has nothing to do with his greatest hit that never even went top 10 on the bb200 and doesn't chart consistently 💀

 

maybe you should check 2010s decade end where he has 2 albums in top 10 (top 6 actually) and he has only 2 cause his 3rd was basically released in 2020 for billboard calendar (year in which it went #1 YE btw) 

 

2 hours ago, Eternium said:

For comparison's sake, Ariana has not done that.

Ariana having 4/5 elegible albums for the 2010s decade end had her highest at #68 💀

 

1 hour ago, Eternium said:

They have Dangerous: The Double Album as the second biggest album ever here.

Not confirmed yet, and even then is it that crazy to say this? The album is the most streamed album of all time in US already about to cross 11M units that would put it as like 6th highest selling album of the century in a period where album units are much lower. Like if we accept 21 instead of Thriller at #1, having Dangerous so high is sadly not wrong.

[Yes, AND]

Also the "compilation" excuse as if certain female artists dont have multiple compilation albums that simply fail to chart.. 

[Eternium]

39 minutes ago, Yes, AND said:

Gurl just accept that Britney is way down the list and go. Your copium is laughable to say the least. This list is for the years 2000 to 2024 and it will never be outdated because it captures a particular timeframe and will be that for eternity. Accept it. 

 

Congrats again to the top 5 ladies Taylor, Rihanna, Bey, Adele and Katy. 

This list will never be anything because Billboard is a flawed source. We have access to Luminate and can see just how stupid their charts are. Imagine making your singles chart in 2003 all about airplay when you know labels were paying for those placements  

 

But as a Katy stan, I'm so glad you had this one moment. I hope it lasts you the rest of your life because that's all you'll have.  

30 minutes ago, dumbsparce said:

Suddenly I'm an @Eternium stan 

Someone has to educate these girls. Thank you for being so kind.

30 minutes ago, elincomprendid said:

Girl post performance has nothing to do with his greatest hit that never even went top 10 on the bb200 and doesn't chart consistently 💀

 

maybe you should check 2010s decade end where he has 2 albums in top 10 (top 6 actually) and he has only 2 cause his 3rd was basically released in 2020 for billboard calendar (year in which it went #1 YE btw) 

 

Ariana having 4/5 elegible albums for the 2010s decade end had her highest at #68 💀

 

Not confirmed yet, and even then is it that crazy to say this? The album is the most streamed album of all time in US already about to cross 11M units that would put it as like 6th highest selling album of the century in a period where album units are much lower. Like if we accept 21 instead of Thriller at #1, having Dangerous so high is sadly not wrong.

Obviously it's not the only reason that Post is so high, but it is literally on its way to being his biggest era, the same as Highlights is for The Weeknd.

 

If Ariana pulled a Highlights/The Diamonds Collection, she would easily surpass Post Malone as the album would end up bigger than any Post Malone album ever. She could just throw her catalog on there and since it's pulling more streams than his, that would certify it.

 

Likewise, Taylor would easily become the #1 artist of all-time if she pulled the antics that The Weeknd and Post Malone did. Her album would be top ten for years  

30 minutes ago, Yes, AND said:

Also the "compilation" excuse as if certain female artists dont have multiple compilation albums that simply fail to chart.. 

Because you can choose to put your songs towards any album that they are included on and, if you try to include them on multiple albums, they go to the album moving the most units that week. How are you going to waste this much time in a chart thread but yet you know absolutely nothing about the charts?  

 

It's like how Britney's The Singles Collection has made the last four year end charts in the U.K. because there it includes every Britney single pre-2009. In the U.S., her albums aren't making the charts because they're separated.

[chiliam]

BB should do these professional list rather than that random list.

Post is too high. Like he has a big peak but not feel very presence in pop culture.

[Squall]

But do we know who topped the Twitter vibes chart of the century? It's more important 

Edited 10 hours ago by Squall

[Calvin]

3 hours ago, chiliam said:

but not feel very presence in pop culture.

You meant vibes? 

[lonnie]

16 hours ago, Loca said:

This thread is a kii

[cuteboyzay]

I think the most impressive positions here are Taylor and Bey. Bey still being SO HIGH UP almost 30years into her career, up SO HIGH with artists that debuted literally 10-15 years after her is insane. 
 

Taylor being so high up too, and if it weren't for Midnights and her TV's she'd probably be a little lower. Like that's kinda slay ngl lmao!

 

Also Rihanna being #3 had released literally no music within the last 10 years is insane. 

Edited 8 hours ago by cuteboyzay

[cuteboyzay]

I'm just gonna not read this thread because I just know it's probably insanneee lmaooo!!! 
 

Y'all, I think it's just common knowledge that Bey and Tay are the biggest female artists/artists of the 21st century. Both dominating in multiple fields. Let's just leave it at that. The fighting just gets tiring at some point. 

Edited 8 hours ago by cuteboyzay

[elincomprendid]

6 hours ago, Eternium said:

Obviously it's not the only reason that Post is so high, but it is literally on its way to being his biggest era, the same as Highlights is for The Weeknd.

An album with 0 weeks top 10 is not even close to be his biggest "era" when he has albumS (multiple) with 50+ weeks in top 10.

 

Also the Diamond collection doesn't chart consistently and like this week is at #52 which basically means negligible GOAT points as sub 40 positions do barely nothing.

[elincomprendid]

1 hour ago, cuteboyzay said:

I think the most impressive positions here are Taylor and Bey. Bey still being SO HIGH UP almost 30years into her career, up SO HIGH with artists that debuted literally 10-15 years after her is insane. 
 

Taylor being so high up too, and if it weren't for Midnights and her TV's she'd probably be a little lower. Like that's kinda slay ngl lmao!

 

Also Rihanna being #3 had released literally no music within the last 10 years is insane. 

Well Beyonce debuting so far away is the reason she is that high…

 

She had enough time to accumulate enough points than other artists didn't so what it's impressive is that she is below artists like Post Malone with a 10 year career or Rihanna that released music for only 10 years.

 

Taylor was already #1 back in 2015 halfway through 1989 era…

 

 

 

[Enrique523]

Taylor at the top, exactly at it should